Two Builds: Tornado F5 and/or Sky MX5 R2 (Both from Eurocom)

Hello! I'm still on my "choosing a laptop" journey, and I was wondering if any of you wanted to judge 2 builds that I had of 2 different kinds of Eurocom laptops. I know for sure that the Sky MX5 R2 uses a clevo chasis, but I'm not sure about the Tornado F5. Could you judge both, and then let me know which one is more becoming of a university student? Specifically, I'm looking for battery life (At least 4), longevity and portability. I'm not too sure how I feel about upgrades (I've never had an upgradable laptop before), and my maximum price is about $2300 (but preferably $2000 flat).

Also, I'm going to be attempting to install the OS onto the laptops myself because I want to save money, and I already have a working and blank 2.5 Form factor SSD. Should I still spend extra money on a M.2 SSD, and how would I order my drives so that the OS would install onto my SSD as opposed to the hard drive included in both computers? Also, is the extra money for a 2 year warranty worth it?

Here are the builds. Thanks in advance:

EUROCOM SKY MX5 R2

Base
System and Display EUROCOM Sky MX5 R2
Choose your LCD Display 15.6-inch (39.6cm); FHD 1920x1080; 60Hz; Matte; IPS; 700:1; NTSC 72%; LG LP156WF6-SPB1
G-Sync Technology with G-SYNC (FHD LG and 4K Samsung only; 4K Sharp is not supported in G-SYNC)
Display Calibration Optional - choose from the options below:
eXpansion Modules for 2-3 External Displays None - Choose from the options below
VGA / GPU Graphics Options 8GB GDDR5; NVIDIA GTX 1070 (N17E-G2); 2048 CUDA; Pascal (16nm); on-board; 100W
Processor / CPU 2.60 GHz (up to 3.5) Intel Mobile Core i7-6700HQ (Skylake); on-board/SMT; 4C/8T; 6MB L3; 14nm; HD Graphics 530; 45W
Memory (RAM) Configuration - Fully Upgradeable 8GB; 1x 8GB; DDR4; PC4-2133; CL15; 260-pin; Micron; 1.2V; 1 SODIMM
Operating System(s) None - Choose from the options below for Pre-install or install your own
Choose Your Keyboard (Language) Backlit; English; USA/Canada; QWERTY
Office and Business Productivity Software None - Choose from the options below
RAID Options: M.2 PCIe/M.2 SATA/mSATA Storage None - Choose from the options below:
Internal M.2 (2280) SSD Storage; 22mmx80mm 250GB; M.2 SAMSUNG 850 EVO; SSD; SATA3; R/W: 540/500 MB/s
Internal M.2 (2280) SSD Storage; 22mmx80mm Choose your SSD M.2 type 2280 (80x22mm) from the options below:
RAID Options: HDD/SSD Storage None - Choose from the options below
1st Hard Drive. Choose Regular HDD, SSD or Hybrid SHDD: 1TB (1000GB); SSHD; Seagate Momentus XT Hybrid ST1000LM014; SATA3 6Gb/s; 8GB MLC NAND Flash
2nd Hard Drive Choose your 2nd HDD/SSD/SHHD from the options below:
External Optical Drive None - Choose from the options below
Internal Card Reader 6-in-1 Card Reader; SD/MS/MMC/SM/CF/MicroDrive
Biometric Device Built-in Fingerprint Reader
Embedded Security Chip Embedded TPM 2.0 Security Chip for Data Encryption
TV Tuner (Internal and/or External) None - Choose from the options below
Wireless LAN 2-in-1; 802.11a/b/g/n/ac WLAN + Bluetooth 4.1; Killer Wireless-AC 1525; M.2 2230
Built-in Web Camera 2.0 Megapixels; FHD 1920x1080; 30fps
Standard AC Adapter 230W; 100V-250V; Auto-Switching (Worldwide); Slimline
Standard Power Cord - included USA / Canada
Carrying Case None - Choose from the options below
Choose Your Warranty Plan 2 Years Return to Factory Depot with 2 Years of Tech Support

Total: $2233 CDN before Taxes and Discounts


EUROCOM Tornado F5

Base
System and Display EUROCOM Tornado F5
Choose your LCD Display 15.6-inch (39.6cm); FHD 1920x1080; 60Hz; Matte; IPS; 700:1; NTSC 72%; LG LP156WF6-SPB1
G-Sync Technology with NVIDIA G-SYNC™
Display Calibration Optional - choose from the options below:
eXpansion Modules for 2-3 External Displays None - Choose from the options below
GPU / Graphics Technology Single VGA support; Modular MXM 3.0; Upgradeable
VGA / GPU Graphics Options 8GB GDDR5; NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (desktop); 2048 CUDA; N17E-G2; MXM 3.0
GPU Heatsink - Thermal Paste IC Diamond 7 Carat Thermal Compound for Maximum Performance
Processor / CPU 4GHz (up to 4.2GHz) Intel Core i7-6700K; 4C/8T; 8MB L3; Skylake-S; 14nm; LGA1151; 91W
CPU Heatsink - Thermal Paste IC Diamond 7 Carat Thermal Compound for Maximum Performance
Memory (RAM) Configuration - Fully Upgradeable 8GB; 1x 8GB; DDR4; PC4-2133; CL15; 260-pin; Micron; 1.2V; 1 SODIMM
Operating System(s) None - Choose from the options below for Pre-install or install your own
Choose Your Keyboard (Language) Backlit; English; USA/Canada; QWERTY
Office and Business Productivity Software None - Choose from the options below
RAID Options: M.2 PCIe/M.2 SATA/mSATA Storage None - Choose from the options below:
Internal M.2 (2280) SSD Storage; 22mmx80mm 250GB; M.2 SAMSUNG 850 EVO; SSD; SATA3; R/W: 540/500 MB/s
Internal M.2 (2280) SSD Storage; 22mmx80mm Choose your SSD M.2 type 2280 (80x22mm) from the options below:
RAID Options: HDD/SSD Storage None - Choose from the options below
1st Hard Drive. Choose Regular HDD, SSD or Hybrid SHDD: 1TB (1000GB); 7200rpm; SATA3 (6Gb/s); 32MB cache; Hitachi Travelstar 7K1000; 9.5mm
External Optical Drive None - Choose from the options below
Internal Card Reader 6-in-1 Card Reader; MMC/RSMMC/SD/MiniSD/SDHC/SDXC; UHS-II interface
TV Tuner (Internal and/or External) None - Choose from the options below
Wireless LAN 2-in-1: 802.11b/g/n WLAN + Bluetooth 4.0 Combo; M.2 2230; Realtek RTL8723BE
Built-in Web Camera 2.0 Megapixels; Webcam; Built-in
HDMI Port(s) HDMI 2.0 Output Port
Thunderbolt Port 1x Thunderbolt 3 (via USB 3.1 type C)
Standard Battery (internal) 8-cells Smart Li-lon Battery
Standard AC Adapter 230W; 100V-250V; Auto-Switching (Worldwide); Slimline
Standard Power Cord - included USA / Canada
Carrying Case None - Choose from the options below
Choose Your Warranty Plan 2 Years Return to Factory Depot with 2 Years of Tech Support

Total: $2343 before taxes and discounts

 

The Eurocom Tornado F5 is an MSI GT62 barebones chassis. Build quality is close, but the Clevo P650RS has a weaker lid so the Tornado gets the edge.

Battery life on the Tornado is not good, only rated for a couple hours because of the desktop cpu.

Don't order any drives from Eurocom please and don't get an sshd (that hybrid drive) in general they are unreliable. Pay attention to /r/buildapcsales and you should be able to get a good deal on an ssd. Eurocom was charging around 200USD for the SSHD and 250GB ssd. That can get a 750GB MX300 ssd in the U.S. and probably a 1TB if you hunt well enough.

Both should last long enough but if portability and battery is part of the equation the MX5 is the easy winner here. You can add the 6820hk cpu if you want an OC capable cpu.

Your gonna want 16GB of ram btw, plan on buying whatever they are putting in on your own, or cough up the stupid amount they charge, as 8GB is not enough.

 

Alright thanks (Like really. You guys on here are so helpful!). I started looking at the Tornado F5 after reading about BGAs vs. Upgradable laptops, so I guess I'll just have to think about if Battery life is extremely important to me (it sort of is, but I guess it depends on how bad the Battery is in the Tornado F5. I've read 2 hours (Can't do it) to 3 hours, so).

Thanks for the warning about Eurocom Memory and Storage prices. Since I already have an SSD I think I'll just use that (the only issue is that it's a 2.5 inch bay, and I think that the Clevo Only has space for 2).

Is there anything else i should note about the two models? Like common issues? Also, is the GPU soldered in the MX5 R2 as well?

 

Clevo has space for 4. 2 M.2 and 2 2.5". Eurocom rates the Tornado model for 130 minutes of battery. Those estimates tend to be on the high end too. Not sure what 3 hours is with, low usage and some undervolts maybe.

Gpu and cpu is soldered. It's not something to worry about unless you were planning on upgrading. It's not exactly smart it costs a ton on the Tornado and gpu upgrades aren't confirmed to work this coming generation. The desktop cpu is cool, the soldered parts are not as helpful unless there is a failure which should be covered under warranty. If you really wanted to make the machine last forever it's a better choice but most people never use the modular aspect of it in any way.

Seriously, from your use case you described you don't sound like you need modular. The Eurocom is like 7+ lbs it's not very portable with drives. You want to carry it around a lot, I wouldn't even be considering the Tornado, I would have looked at like the GS63 and GL502VS or something. The MX5 is the best fit for you imo.

Not many common issues on either. The MX5 has a sometimes bad 1080p display in that it can have bad backlight bleed sometimes so I'd recommend any of the 4K options, but plenty of the 1080p ones are great. Only one I saw had almost 0 backlight bleed.

 

Something to consider strongly, the MX5 R2 has a 120hz 1080p panel option. Also worth mentioning the X4E2 (P750DM) also has the same 120hz AUO panel option.

Doesn't mention G-Sync support (and it's an AUO panel so probably not) but 120hz is a serious game-changer particularly when there's almost no other machines with a 15" 1080p 120hz panel in existence. The only 15" 120hz panels I've seen are the 1440p panels used in the AW15 and Aorus X5.

 

You mean AW17 and Aorus X7?

The 15 and X5 are 1080p 120Hz like the Clevo.

 

Ah yes, my mistake, I meant the 1080p 120hz panels.

I just double-checked the Alienware (AU at least) page and the 1080p/120hz panel actually supports G-Sync which Clevo distributors seem to be vague about since it's an AUO panel and they were one of the very last to get certified panels.

Seriously makes me wonder if I could replace my 60hz LG panel with one because 120hz would be awesome.

 

I would also consider upgrading to th 6820HK

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PM meaker or something. The panel can be replaced, all depends on the connector. The 1080p and 4K connector is different for example.

HID lists the P650RS 120Hz panel as GSync.

 

Thanks for the extra info guys. Just a few questions:

1. About the 4k screen, would I even be able to tell the difference at 15 inches? Also, would it eat up my battery life a lot?

2. I'm assuming that the 6820K would be an overclockable processor right? (Assuming so because of the "K")

3. A 120hz display would.... allow for faster response (in everyday usage and gameplay) right? Sorry I'm not used to this.

 

Battery life isn't as largely negatively impacted as they used to. At 15" I wouldn't bother with 4K because you typically need to use 200% DPI scaling on the desktop to actually get anything done.

Typically, the 4K options are more useful for photo/video people who either want raw resolution or better colour accuracy which is often better on 4K panels.

Yes it's overclockable. Many systems with the 6820hk come pre-overclocked to 4.0ghz now. Thermally, I'd make sure you've got something to at least stand the laptop on to keep it cool.

Faster response and much smoother motion. Most obvious changes on the desktop are the smoothness of the mouse movement and dragging windows around. In games it's quite noticeable with fast FPS games.

Personally, I think 120hz/144hz is one of the greatest upgrades possible for a gamer. 60hz screen look utterly BROKEN to me now.

 

Hmm I'll keep all of that in mind. Personally I think I might stay away from any altercations to my display and probably just opt for the better processor, reason being that I don't think that I could game comfortably at a 4k resolution with a 1070, or hit above 120fps with a 1070. That and the 120hz monitor doesn't seem to come with G-Sync.

Is there anything else I should be mindful of?

 

According to all the other things I've seen, that particular 120hz panel should indeed support G-Sync. Definitely shoot them an email to double-check as that'll be the icing on the cake. If it is both 120hz and G-Sync I cannot express just how good that'd be. Unless you've seen it before it's hard to describe just how much smoother things look.

The 1070 is more than capable of high framerates in many games. MOBAs and other "basic" multiplayer titles are obvious choices, but it can also apply to stuff like the new Skyrim SE (even with a stack of mods I run mine locked at 90fps as I find that to be the threshold for physics crazyness). I can also immediately notice when it's only running at 60fps. Bethesda's last patch added a setting which forces the internal rendering to 60fps regardless of the output rate and I thought I broke something until I read the patch notes and disabled their internal limiter.

On the 15.6" screen, you'll also find that you don't need things like AA as heavily as on a desktop since the pixel density is much higher.. Most of the time I can get away with as little as 2x SSAA or even none, whereas on the desktop I'll be needing 4x more often and no AA looks like arse.

 

Hmm, I see. Also, just another quick question. I know that Eurocom is in Canada, but does anyone have any information on Reflex Notebooks? I hear that their Component prices are much cheaper.

 

@Stooj if screen tearing is caused by refresh rates not being fast enough, is gsync still needed on panels like the 120hz that are that fast? Or is it just there to maintain the minimum fps at 60?


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Screen tear is caused by any mismatch of the FPS and screen refresh rate that is not an exact division/multiple of.

It is caused by the panel being sent new frame data while rendering a frame.

 

Precisely.

G-Sync is also highly beneficial with higher refresh monitors as you can often get even the heaviest games running around the 70-90fps range and it helps to smooth out the variations in frame-timing. Typically, the higher the refresh-rate gets, the more it'll begin to vary.

 

If you are in Canada, then Eurocom is probably a better choice. Any warranty service with Reflex will have to go to Sager in California, adding more time into the repair.

If you already have a good 2.5 inch SSD, then my suggestion would be to buy the base model MX5 R2 from Eurocom, then install that and a matching 8GB DDR4 SODIMM purchased from eBay or such. Don't bother with M.2 SSD drives or running a dual drive configuration, it just adds more heat to the system and reduces battery life. In the same regard, you can opt for the Intel 8260 Wifi which seems to use less battery life as well (and the drivers are not garbage). If you can afford a 6820HK, great, but if not its fine too. The 6700HQ should be great for most gaming and course work scenarios.

 

Thanks, another thing though. Does anyone know how loud the fans are on the Clevo compared to the Tornado F5?

 

The fans are pretty quiet on the Tornado F5. At idle its just a low noise (they are on all the time by default). You would hear more noise from a HDD. At load, they are noticeable but not annoying.

You may want to look at http://www.gaminglaptopsjunky.com as he reviewed both the Tornado F5 and P650RS-G so you can compare and contrast his reviews to get an idea of how each would be different.

Do you plan on using this laptop on your lap much, or will it be on a desk or tv stand? I have actually found that the Tornado F5 is VERY comfortable to use on my lap, because that extra 1/2 inch thickness helps the components breath much better. It basically barely gets above room temperature on light loads.

 

I'm planning on mostly using whatever laptop I get to move around a lot, so that's on transit (buses/subway), at home (usually on a desk, but sometimes on my lap) and most importantly, I want to be able to bring this to class everyday. Hence why Battery life seems to be my biggest pet peeve. I'm also coming from an older gaming laptop which had the most annoying fans in the world.

I checked, but I can't find any real reviews on the loudness of the Clevo models, but it's good to hear that the Tornado F5 is really quiet.

 

If you can't find it by looking for the Clevo model, or a review under the Eurocom name, you could search by some other Clevo reseller names for the model.

On our youtube page, we do have a video for the NP8153 model which has the same Clevo chassis. We do go over the loudness of the system as well. Hope this helps.

 

Thanks! Gh, that seems pretty alright (I'm not used to measuring loudness in dbs but it seems alright). I guess I'll just have to make a decision between the two laptops.

 

Tornado F5 hands down is the winner. No contest. Excellent build quality, nice keyboard, no BGA filth. It will destroy the other options (any of them) in the 15-inch form factor. The difference in cost versus the model you compared with in the opening post is negligible. Considering how much more bang for the buck you will get, it's a no brainer. And, it's more affordable than many of the other 15-inch and many 17-inch "gaming" notebooks that can't even come close to touching it in terms of performance. If you're not cash strapped, hold out for the 7700K / GTX 1080 model. According to @Eurocom Support that should be available very soon. I anticipate having one very soon for stress testing, so I will be sharing my exploits with that little beast as soon as it gets here.

 

Hmm... well my pros and cons for each basically go down to this:

Tornado F5:

+ Upgradable CPU/GPU
+ Quieter
+ Build quality
+ Performance
+ Desktop CPU
+ Better thermals
+ Stronger apperance
+ Longevity

- Battery life (My university doesn't really have a lot of outlets in class, so I'll need at least 4 hours. I've seen someone report up to 3.5 hours so it's not that bad/much of a difference from the MX5)
- Slightly bigger than the MX5
- Heavier
- slightly pricer
- I keep hearing about how you'd need to take apart the laptop a bit further to add more RAM (This is only really a problem bc I'm used to using BGA laptops and I'm admittedly not good at tinkering... yet)

Eurocom MX5 R2:

+ Simpler
+ Slimmer
+ Posisbly more battery life? (I see up to 4 hours, but I also sometimes see the same reports for the Tornado F5 so /shrug)
+ Less chance of me messing around and ruining my laptop
+ Slightly cheaper
+ has a fingerprint scanner
+ more subdued appearance

- Less powerful
- Probably will have to replace it after 3-4 years down the line
- Louder (slightly)
- Gets hotter
- slightly poorer build quality


They both look like amazing laptops though. Oh, and another thing. Does the Tornado F5 have the same "backlight bleed" problem that I hear that a lot of MX5s have?

 

I won't know until I have one. But, ask here and I'm sure you will get a swift answer from the folks that already have one. Lots of other good info in that thread as well.

The Official MSI 16L13 (Eurocom Tornado F5) Owners and Discussions Lounge

 

Every machine is a balance and not everyone's needs are the same

 

If you are looking into socketed systems which certainly have their appeal (but I admit I am not an evangelist), you might also consider the Clevo P750DM2 15". Beware that it is not spec'd to take a GTX 1080, but it is offered by HIDevolution and they offer things like delidding and CLLU as an added service. Some people have complained about the shared CPU/GPU heat sink but I have not heard of any instances where this has caused problems.

If upgrading to a GTX 1080 is important to you, then you should wait to see how the MSI 16L13 / Tornado F5 actually performs with one of these. I believe the motherboard is going to be upgraded to the new Intel series 200 chipset which may also be worth the wait if moving to Kaby Lake is important to you.

EDIT: meant DM2, sry

 

I guess we will have to wait and see how it gets on.

 

Thanks for the advice, but I think any upgrades that I'd want to do in the future would be for the GPU (1070 - 1370, for example). Also I'm Canadian so my options are mostly Eurocom and ReflexNotebook.

Also, what makes you "not an evangelist" for socketed systems? I've been doing a lot of research on this BGA vs Non-BGA debate and I'm curious.

 

Well, I wouldn't assume the Tornado F5 can be upgraded to a 1370. It should be able to handle the 1080. The P750DM2 may also be able to handle a 1080 if the rumor mill is correct.

I mean that I do not feel as strongly as some people do here about socketed vs BGA in general, but I do have a price threshold beyond which I personally would not buy a BGA system. I am on the fence as to whether or not I would buy my current BGA P650RS-G again or if I would by a socketed P750DM2-G or a MSI 16L13.

I think my next laptop will be socketed because I love the idea of getting more out of the system. But to be clear I also really like my P650RS-G

 

The Clevo and the MSI would both be about as up in the air for upgrades to something like a 1370 as each other. Though, in this case, I feel the F5 is a better machine overall, especially with a delid, 330W brick and Svet mod using some CLU on the CPU and GPU. The Clevo with a Prema mod will be better for enthusiasts in tweaking, but as far as I can tell the heatsink isn't unified on the F5 like the Clevo's is, and appears to be beefier.

Being a "not an evangelist" is probably understanding the functional and desirable differences, but not acting as if buying a BGA notebook is the end of the world. In my case, I will *ALWAYS* suggest socketed over soldered, but if a socketed notebook starts at $1800 and a soldered one has a better GPU and more RAM for $1600 and the dude's budget is $1600 I'll say go ahead. Personally, though, I'll never own a soldered notebook as my primary. It just can't happen.

I don't know how the F5 is going to handle a 7700K and 1080 though. From what I hear, delidding 7700Ks is basically mandatory.

 

I, for one, am anxious to see what @Mr. Fox uncovers when he does the review of the F5 Rev. 2 with these components.

 

For me, after I adjust the clevo to my liking it sort of becomes more expensive than the Tonado F5, but only by a small margin. I'm sort of a newbie, so I actually don't know what "delidding" is. Also, aside from battery (I need around 4 hours, although I hear it's possible if I underclock) and portability (the clevo is slimmer) I think that another issue I have with the Tornado F5 is the screen? After what I've read I wanted to look into a 120ghz display and Eurocom doesn't offer the F5 with that...

They both seem to be really great laptops. I guess I just need to close my eyes and pick one at this point lol.

EDIT: Also I hear that the Clevo has a better headphone jack than the Tornado F5. It's sort of important because of my expensive headphones. On my current MSI laptop they sound like trash.

 

delidding is the act of removing the IHS from the CPU, cleaning off the old adhesive and thermal paste, applying new (better) thermal paste, and then gluing it back together. Since intel decides saving a few cents per CPU by not soldering the IHS to the CPU die is a thing, we have to go through such lengths for their inferior product design to get good cooling in situations like these laptops.

4 hours will be a rather large stretch on either machine, being very honest with you.

The F5 can hold the 120Hz panel; it just isn't "there" to choose yet.

If you want the Clevo and you want good temps and CPU power, I would suggest buying them from HID using the CAD price (you can change it at the right of the product selection line once you choose the EVOC system line) and getting the Delid option selected.

 

The hardware geek in me loves the idea of a socketed system! De-lidding + liquid metal thermal paste gives you very good cooling on the CPU if it is done correctly. The hardware geek in me wants those things, but I want someone else to do them preferably under warranty

It looks like the Tornado F5 with the 1080 is actually a different computer (using a different socket then the MXM sockets used by the 1060/1070). There is a discussion about this on the Tornado F5 forum.

If I had to buy today and I wanted socketed for overclocking (and if I didn't mind the extra thickness - weight I can deal with) then I would favro the P750DM2-G simply because HIDevolution carries it and I like them as a vendor. I did very well by them with my P650RS-G

 

Thanks. I am excited about that and the new 780W AC adapter. I have not seen either one yet and @Eurocom Support has not sent a tracking number. I am assuming they are not available yet. Should not be too much longer... hopefully.

 

Ugh. I'm probably literally going to end up closing my eyes and picking one of them >_>. They're both really good laptops, and I just can't decide between upgradability + performance vs. portability and audio >_>. Thanks for all of your help though so far.

 

Or ask on here just be open minded to all the options guys. Defend your options still existing by all means however.

 

@ShatteredAwe, I've ordered the EVOC 16L-G-1080 (same chassis as the Tornado F5) from HIDevolution, for CAD, database, and programming work (among other things). I won't have the machine for a couple more weeks, because I ordered the new 4K version, but you're welcome to follow and post on my thread where I'll be posting my review after I get it.

(EDIT: I posted here because I see that the OP never resolved their decision.)

 

You picked a great place, and a great bunch of mentors, from which to learn! I'm an engineer with decades of experience, but like you I'm new to the whole world of overclocking and undervolting. @Mr. Fox, @Phoenix, @Papusan, and others are excellent teachers.

Suggestion: Check out the Overclock University videos by @Mr. Fox.

 

If buy eurocom always contact @woodzstack


Especially for that F5 or 16L-G-1080, always better to buy from him.

 

@ShatteredAwe

Delidding is not for the faint hearted but if you buy the right tool, it would be very easy

The tool: http://rockitcool.myshopify.com/

Without the tool:

What is CPU Delidding?

to put it in layman's terms, Intel puts some crappy thermal paste between the actual CPU Die and the IHS (integrated heat spreader) or in other words, they put crappy thermal paste between the actual CPU and the metal heat spreader that you as a customer sees when you hold the CPU in your hands

to improve this, you can remove the IHS by cutting through from all corners ensuring that you do not cut through the PCB of the CPU then removing the IHS. Next, you would remove the crappy thermal paste that Intel put and replace that with Liquid Ultra which is a far better thermal pate in terms of heat dissipation..

you surely can do this yourself if you have the time and patience, but that would void your CPU warranty. HIDevolution is one of the very few system builders that can do this for you and not void your CPU warranty since they do it in-house.

By delidding your CPU, you can expect temperature drops by up to 10C

 

Hey man, thanks a lot for the quality reference there @Mobius 1

Yeah I sell Clevo's now and of course also the F5, however anyone needs/wants it customised.

I LOVE the Sky X6, it was awesome, and the MX5 R2 is just as good !

 

─ and, also, electrically conductive. Good stuff, just gotta be careful with it. @ShatteredAwe