USA Clevo Builders

Which US sellers are Clevo builders and which are Sager resellers? The guide should really have them marked but it does not.

 

It is pretty easy to separate them, ones that advertise the Sager name or the "NP" model number are Sager Resellers. Anyone using another name is not a Sager Reseller.

There are also some that have their machines built at Sager and they just have their company sticker applied instead of the Sager one.

 

To be honest I would say it matters who you get it from. The laptops in the end all come from same place (Clevo) its really who would you rather deal with warranty wise and who has best price.

A CPU and a GPU are a CPU and a GPU ehe, shell is the same for all so that just leaves customer service and price left.

 

Your right a part is a part, however, quality of parts, testing, and other services DO matter and that is what makes all of us a little different =) So its not quite that cut and dry

 

Got that right.

 

So why would one choose a clevo reseller/builder over a sager reseller? What advantage does one have for doing so?

 

It's just personal preference for the most part. Here in the USA, I have seen a better resale value for Sager branded models over the plain Clevo versions...
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but i would prefer a profesional builds my laptop, not someone who was trained by a video. thats why i went with a clevo builder, also i know that the company i got it through has a tough qt test, also ram upgrade and color calibration was a plus. but from what i've read on the forums u cant go wrong with any of the companies that post here often like malibal, xotic, mythlogic,lpc... and others.

 

Most Clevo resellers are individual shops and do the work themselves. Sager resellers have your laptop serviced and managed by Sager (with the resellers help). You get a little more personal service from a Clevo rebrand (like Mythlogic), but you also run the risk if their company folds you are out of warranty (sorry Mythlogic), but same can be said for Sager or reseller too. Although if reseller goes under, then you still have Sager to deal with directly.

From my experience here, I'd say go with XoticPC or LPC-Digital for a Sager brand or Mythlogic for Clevo.

 

Now back to the original question.... All I'm asking for is a list of which US sellers are Sager Resellers and which are actual Clevo builders

 

not to be mean but read the comments we told you the resellers and a clevo builder, other than those i think avadirect might be a builder. but if it says sager on the site then it is a sager reseller and not a clevo builder.

 

i think malibal is a clevo reseller no?

 

The only Clevo Resellers in the North America is Sager, Pro Star and Eurocom. Nobody else purchases directly from Clevo, they are purchased from one of these companies. (And some companies have them built there and their company stickers applied)

 

So the nice question now, which builder purchase from which Importer (Sager, Prostar & Eurocom)?

 

remember to do your research. look through the forum, and you should find the right one to use.

 

Actually Sager, Prostar and Eurocom, all of them has their own branded laptops. I even wonder if there should be another Clevo importer that just import and sell Clevo barebones without being at the same time rebrander like these 3 above. If someone like this exist in your country, and can sell directly to end-customers, then it should be cool to be able to build your notebook yourself, full personalization and complete freedom, and a pleasure for those who it really matters for them not to pay Microsoft. AFAIK, the OEMs that have the Windows pre-installed option, always have a contract with Microsoft to pay the license for each sold notebook including those with no Windows pre-instaled (i.e. they pay for the windows copy but then they remove it from the notebook). I know that a lot of people here never mind of such a thing (even they are fully Windows users) but there is some in that world who cares and who wants to vote with his dollar.

 

There is only Sager and Pro-Star that build Clevos in the US and Eurocom in Canada. Everyone else gets their from them. Sager is the biggest one.

 

You can start doing it I imagine it's tough to get a large enough company to do enough volume to get the volume discounts needed to make this profitable over the long term versus being one guy trying to order parts directly from Clevo. Since you spend so much in order to become a OEM builder for an ODM (Clevo), most also sell notebooks themselves as there is no reason not to.

 

I'm curious why Sager has so many resellers but Pro-Star and Eurocom do not. I wouldn't mind seeing more resellers selling Pro-Star and Eurocom models (despite the fact that I know it is all the same thing) but variety and competition can't hurt right?

 

There are more than a few ProStar and Eurocom resellers. Not sure if they post here on this forum.
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Sometimes I think about building on Clevo barebones and selling my brand, but this will be in Chile not in north america
And will be for low to middle end models. Gamers in Chile are not common.

 

Back to a point that was brought up earlier... If the unit has a model number that starts with NP, then you know it originated from Sager/ProStar. If the model number uses the same numbering as Clevo (P150 as an example) then they generally buy from a non Sager/ProStar source.

When in doubt...simply ask before you buy. It's not a big secret really!

Thanks

 

Off the top of my head:

Mythlogic - They are their own builders - but get the shells from Sager
Malibal - Sager built but branded Malibal
XoticPC - Sager
PowerNotebooks - Sager
LPC-Digital - Sager
PCTorque - Sager


Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

 

Malibal and Mythlogic don't get anything from Clevo. They get theirs from Sager as well although Mythlogic is also a wholesaler IIRC from what the reps said.

 

Then why are the Malibal model numbers things like P170HM instead of NP8170? I suppose they could have Sager build them.

Also I could be wrong about the Mythlogic buying the frames directly from Clevo, but ultimately they wholesale their parts from other companies and build the unit themselves.

 

Because the barebones shell is a Clevo part. In addition to being a supplier of Clevo shells, Sager is a builder/integrator and thus puts their own model name to those machines.

 

This is a good reason to request a list if people know these things. Why hassle the guy with contacting the vendors if these things are known?

I attempted to answer your question OP, at least the answers are being drawn out

EDIT:

Original post edited to update with this info.

 

Would be nice to have this info included here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...-0-faq-reseller-info-read-before-posting.html

 

@Tweak Thank you for understanding! This can be very useful for a bunch of people.

@Xerloq That was basically what I was trying to suggest

 

Hello , I am new one . I have some questions .
I saw you are discussing 2 kind computer, one clevo builder , another sager reseller . I want to know which one's quality is better .
There are some reseller , pro-star ,sager ,xoticpc and Eurocom . Which one's quality is better or there are no differences . Thanks.

 

Hi stonesl, welcome to NBR!
If they are built from the same Clevo chassis and you select the same hardware parts your build quality will be the same.

 

Thank you .
Can you tell me the difference between Clevo builder and Sager resellers ? I didn’t know the exact mean of them .
I know you mean if the hardware parts is same ,the quality will be same .
But I saw some replies .

So how do you think of these ? Does someone more profesional on building ?

 

How it works is Sager buys Clevo barebones directly from Clevo. They install their additional hardware there like CPU, RAM, etc then brand it "Sager". Sager resellers like us sell their computers for them. A Clevo builder does the same thing but they are a different company then Sager so they dont sell Sager computers. There are only 2-3 companies in the US that buy directly from Clevo and Sager is one of them. The other places that sell their own brand built off a Clevo barebones will buy them from one of the other places that buy from Clevo.
Sager is the largest Clevo purchaser and has been around the longest, since 1989, so i would say they probably know what they're doing

 

They also do helpful things like name their models with a 5 at the end to show that the mSATA bug is fixed on those.

 

so which reseller has the best price & discount for Clevo laptops ? & which model is slim & has the best build quality ?

 

Go up the what notebook should I buy forum and use the form there.

 

I got mine from HIDEvolution.

I just wanted to point out that they are not on the list.

 

Mythlogic

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