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    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Blacky, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. E.Blar

    E.Blar Notebook Deity

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    Wow, this is interesting. Too bad it wasn't post #666 in the thread...

    Back on topic (or at least what we were talking about) I remember that early in the P180HM owner's lounge Myth confirmed it could handle dual 6990m's but not dual 580m's. Link: GPU's that work in P180HM. So the 580m must be more power-hungry than the 6990m.
     
  2. jaybee83

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    oh im SO in, this is just too much fun :p +1 for Diablo IV :D

    and oh yeah the 580M is deff way more power-hungry than the 6990M, hands down
     
  3. E.Blar

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    Let's take another screenshot when they're all the same color :D
     
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    Diablo IV is coming soon

    ... soon as in 2018... if we're lucky ;)
     
  7. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Add a decade or two..
     
  8. Mr. Fox

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    That's exactly what I was referring to when I mentioned tripping the 330W PSU with 580M SLI. With the GPU clocks cranked and voltage bumped up, along with an XM proc pushing 1.5v and core current up'd to 300a it can sometimes be more than the AC adapter can manage.
     
  9. E.Blar

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    Just wondering, but when you try drawing too much power, does it throttle, lose power completely, or does the brick explode?
     
  10. jaybee83

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    *imagines Fox having "tons of bricks" lying around for his next benching session* :D
     
  11. E.Blar

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    ^^^^*was thinking same thing* :D
     
  12. Mr. Fox

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    Ha ha, that's funny. :D Actually, the AC adapters are very resilient. They have a circuit breaker inside. So far, I am still using the one that shipped with my system.

    Nothing serious happens other than everything grinds to a halt because you end up switched to battery power. CPU enters a low power state and so do the GPUs. That's a lot better than blowing up, LOL.

    This only happens when you keep pushing things over and over, like running back-to-back 3DMark11 or Vantage benchmark runs without any opportunity for the AC adapter to cool down while massively overclocked. If I OC the CPU to like 4.8-4.9GHz and have the 580s bumped to .92v and 860/1720/1800, for example, after about the 3rd loop in 3DMark11 or Vantage it will sometimes trip. If I place the AC adapter on its narrow edge or place it near the laptop when I am benching with my portable air conditioning unit, it usually stays cool enough to not reset itself.
     
  13. jaybee83

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    portable A/C!? lol, now theres some serious benchmarker at work :D

    Sent from my GT-I9001 using Tapatalk 2
     
  14. spectroplasm

    spectroplasm Notebook Consultant

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    Are the P170HM and P170EM adapters the same? or is there a difference.

    **Off topic**
    is there a problem with the forums? I can't seem to be able to make a new thread at all. Upon pressing "preview post" or "post thread" it would refresh into a white screen with nothing inside it. :( I'd like to make a thread but I've been on firefox and IE but no cigar with both, same blank white screen.
     
  15. awakeN

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    yeah, there's been a problem with the forums D:
     
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    PaKii94 Notebook Virtuoso

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    oh ok good i thought i was banished from making threads :S
     
  17. Gear332

    Gear332 Notebook Evangelist

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    It just doesn't show the first post. It still creates the thread. You basically just have to create the thread and then reply to it with whatever you wanted to say or ask in it.
     
  18. awakeN

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    Yup, but the preview button is dead. Infinite loading for me on Chrome.
     
  19. E.Blar

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    I finally switched to the 7970m!! It was obvious that my laptop wouldn't arrive tomorrow (still pending parts), which is the day I originally hoped to have it by. That was the only reason I ordered the 675m, so I decided to switch as I had already waited the three weeks for it to launch.
     
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    You made the right choice, man! I'm hoping to get my order for a P170EM w/7970m put in today. Mythlogic upsold me on a high gamut screen that I wasn't planning on purchasing, so it took a few days of deliberation to decide if I wanted to spend the extra money or not. :p
     
  21. Prasad

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    Well, congrats! Just for that little extra wait, you're gonna enjoy your new Sager for years to come!! ;)
     
  22. E.Blar

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    Thanks to both of ye :)
    It will still need ram and HDD upgrades down the road, but this should last me at least 3 generations.
    High gamut screens are totally worth it (for me, at least), as I model and texture a lot of environments and want them to look exactly the way I imagine them.
     
  23. p1n0yBaLLeR

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    now you have to wait another two weeks lulz, where did u order from?
     
  24. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    Anyone tried to upgrade their older clevo to one of these cards yet?
     
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    I am also quite interested in knowing the answer to this. In a few months, I may do a switch from the 6990m to the 7970m in my p150hm. Has the upgrade been successfully done before? Have there been any BIOS issues and other compatibility issues?
     
  26. Kingpinzero

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    So far i know that the 7970m works in x7200 even in crossfire, but nothing still on HM models.
    An Eurocom contact I know said that they are conducting in house testing this week, I'll know something by the end of this week hopefully.
    Theorically it should work as the latest HM bios doesn't performs extensive checks on the gpu installed. The only problem could be the temp readings by the EC like it happens with dell cards.
    Let's cross fingers :)
     
  27. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    I bet it does work out. It has been done with the M18x R1 [ link] and the M17 R3 [ link] already. Driver support is not good yet, even for the new models shipping with 7970M, but that is somewhat to be expected with the new GPUs.
     
  28. jaybee83

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    and its also been shown to work in an m15x and X7200! so would be a big surprise if the 7970M turned out to be incompatible with the other older clevo models :p

    heres to hoping guys! :)
     
  29. pau1ow

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    And MSI as well :) Looks like the 7970M is universal ;)
     
  30. jaug1337

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    nVIDIA better step up their game man :D they're in real trouble..
     
  31. awakeN

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    especially with the rumored recall on the GTX 600 desktop GPUs...
     
  32. p1n0yBaLLeR

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    With all the pressure they're putting to themselves and the companies that work for them, I'm pretty sure they're gonna demand a very high starting price if they are planning on releasing a 7970m competitor. probably twice the price of 7970m for 5-10 fps difference on performance. They need to be competitive on prices too.
     
  33. jaybee83

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    aaand covering this thread as well...

    heres another m17x r4 review with the 7970M (not by notebookcheck):

    Google Übersetzer

    cheers
     
  34. micahmatthew

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    Now I'm just hoping this card can run unreal 4 games if they come out 2013, they might not untill 2014 though . They released some screens and man Unreal Engine 4 looks crazy smexy. Might have to run on high not ultra :(. Or get a 8970m next year or the year after haha.
     
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    How much are we looking at to upgrade from, say, 485M to 675M through resellers?
     
  36. Kevin

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    Why burn that much money on a 10-15% upgrade? Better to overclock your 485M and wait to see how the 680M turns out.
     
  37. Kingpinzero

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    It's not even 10-15%, most 485m like mine can stay stable without over volt at 700/1800.
    Only reason to upgrade to a 675m is the fact to run the gpu at 800mhz and the inability to upgrade to a 7970m or 680m.
    And giving the latest news the 7970m doesn't work well in older HM models.
     
  38. jaybee83

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    kingpin, u destroyer of dreams!!! :( :p heres to hoping still! i want facts on that *sigh*

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  39. jaybee83

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    oh hey kingpin! i just remembered something: are u SURE that reseller of yours used CLEVO cards in their HM testing and not DELL cards? cuz the dell cards have already been shown to do exactly that in clevo laptops: theyre not recognized properly temperature-reading-wise and thus force the laptops to shut down right away after booting. ;)
     
  40. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    Yup, the reseller ive spoken with uses only clevo parts. In fact they sold out the hd7970m and he confirmed next shipment would happen around 8th of June.
    Also it's a quite known reseller, he knows his stuff, I doubt he used Dell ES/QS cards.
    I only hope he did something wrong, as I said I've asked both xotic and Eurocom to test the card in HM barebones, so hope hasn't been lost completely yet.
     
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    keeping fingers crossed then
     
  42. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    A Polish reseller have revealed the performance of the 4GB 680M. 14% faster than 7970M :cool:

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  43. quickstrike2

    quickstrike2 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I was looking at the bluemobility site just because I was curious. I have no idea how reputable that website is, but seems to hint that the 680m will be quite a bit more than the 7970m just by looking at the relative upgrade prices. That is a polish site, so their currency is zlotys. Doing a conversion, the 7970m is $167 more whereas the 680m is $600?!?

    BLUEMOBILITY

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M 1.5GB GDDR5 (P170EM)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675M 2.0GB GDDR5 (P170EM) [+250.00zł]
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M 4.0GB GDDR5 (P150/170EM) PRE-ORDER! Premiera Czerwiec 2012 [+2150.00zł]
    ATI Radeon HD 7970M 2.0G GDDR5, OCZEKUJEMY NA DATĘ DOSTĘPNOŚCI OD CLEVO [+600.00zł] BlueBerry Poleca!
     
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    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    There are so many different price of 680M floating around right now so god knows what the final price will be:

    Monster notebooks: 680M cost $180 more than 7970M
    Rabook: 680M cost $237 more than 7970M
    PCSpecialist: 680M cost $277 more than 7970M
    Bluemobility: 680M cost $437 more than 7970M
     
  45. jaug1337

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    There corrected it for you :cool:
     
  46. Blacky

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    Actually the pricing looks good so far ($200-$250). I think I am sold :D.
     
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    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Yeah me too. What we have here is basicly a mobile GPU performing like GTX 580...

    [​IMG]
     
  48. TwinTurbo

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    Wow, if those performance figures for the 680m are true, it really makes me think about going ahead and switching to the 675m and upgrading to the 680m when it is released.
     
  49. p1n0yBaLLeR

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    I think there are many kinds of 680m going to be available from 2GB/3GB/4GB...
     
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