Update on heat problem.

So about 2 weeks ago, i just got my np8662 and was frantically trying to lower the heat, with the 500 gig 7200 rpm. So things I have noticed/found out:

Intel chipset manager seems to lower temp by a few degrees.

Elevating the laptop to "increase airflow" seemed to raise the temperature 55 idle, 63 after gaming. Putting the laptop back down changed the temperature 53 idle, 55 after gaming.

Using the zalman 2k, its 44 idle now on max speed, 50 after gaming. <3

 

Yeah thats my bad, I've been up for a real long time and I'm not thinking straight. But i put it seperate because some people wish to know the advantage of a cooler.

 

I wasn't able to take the noise anymore after 3 month of the working cooler pad. My head will blow up soon. So I've just ordrerd Smart Bay from China (14$ with delivery) put HDD instead of Optical Device and voila... 39C when browsing, and 45C when really hard and long playing or intensive HDD work... And that's all w/o culler pad.

 

issit SATA interface for the caddy?
mind refer to the website?

 

Standard SATA-2-SATA.
Website? Ebay, you mean?
It was standard Caddy for Thinkpad T400/R400/W500

 

whats wrong with the 500gb 7200 hdd i ordered that one. and if there is a way to put in a hdd in the smart bay would that mean i can get a raid going? with 2 hdd's?

 

Theres nothing wrong, its just a bit hotter then the norm.

 

ya....ebay....i am thinking to get one....this hdd overheating issues i getting me crazy
do you have to made some mods to the caddy for it to fit into m860tu casing?

 

Yes, and no.
It's SATA-2-SATA so nothing need to be moded from a technical point of view.
But:
1. There is one extra plastic thing, a very small, but with it, caddy can't get inside. So it's need to be deleted by a fail or a little-saw. It takes not more then 5 minutes.
2. There is will be extra space, because caddy is 9mm and hole is like 15mm. But hey, take it as extra ventilation =)

If you need a proper "cool style" caddy then you can throw away all part from your DVD and put the translator SATA-2-SATA from Lenovo's Caddy inside of a DVD's benzel. Then it will be looks like a fake DVD with HDD inside. But with this you must say good bye to your DVD Drive.

 

can someone upload a pic of the hdd in the dvd drive. you said it would be 9mm in a 15mm space i would like to see what that looks like...

Im thinking about getting a second hdd in the future when i dont need the dvd.
but with a second hdd i would expect batt life to go down. unless i can turnoff one or just have the dvd in when traveling.

 

well looks like i had to do that....to think that dvd-drives are useless these days

 

Or like this if inside DVD's benzel => http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=4657826&postcount=18

 

wow...kaltmond mods really nice..

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=4657826&postcount=18

so i can just buy the t500 smartbay and then change the faceplate 'bezel' and have a second hdd? that's great.

 

sry to bump this but i got my sager also and the hdd 500gb 7200 runs at 60-65C constantly. any other ways to lower this via software, drivers, doing something in win 7 64bit ?

 

have you got the inte matrix storage manager loaded. get the 7 64bit HERE

what is your room temperature as thats not normal. sounds like you could have a bad HD

 

You should define constantly. When i was gaming, 60-65 was the constant temp, but idle was around 55, this was initially. But cooler really helps.

 

Do you have restore & a few other things turned off? Vista/win7 hits the hard drive constantly moving files around in the background.

 

constantly= startup means 38C after a few min 60-65C..turned off indexing helped 1-2 degrees...however i am constantly installing things i had to wipe my previous install b/c of a boot error.. so installing about 200 gb worth of apps and games. I am not playing games 63C just installing empire earth 3 and compressing 5gb into a rar. intel matrix says i do not meet the minimum requirements

 

nvm on the intel thing:"You get that error because your Bios settings are set to XP as the OS instead of Vista. If you change the settings in the Bios to Vista and then install those drivers you will get a BSOD.

I don't know the workaround but it is something to remember when you do a fresh install of Windows 7."

 

Ok, that's one of the major reasons why your hard drive is hotter than it should be. You need to switch to SATA/AHCI mode - right now your (SATA) hard drives are running in emulated IDE mode ("XP mode"), which will run hotter and will not have the proper driver support from Intel for them. There are a lot of guides on these forums on how to do this, including a few posts on the first page mentioning a few ways of doing this (from a registry edit to repair/reinstall the OS with a floppy/etc containing SATA drivers after setting BIOS to "Vista" mode).

edit: Oh, duh, you're running Win 7, so you will have SATA support right off the bat. You probably need to reinstall, or at least repair install, after switching BIOS mode to Vista/AHCI (SATA supported) mode, as the easiest solution. This isn't a minor thing; it's reduced temps for various people from 3-5+ degrees.

 

oh good.so i dont have a bad harddrive however...i have reinstalled ll of my things twice takes about 24 hours...im not willing to reinstall everything for 3-5 degrees D: im tired lol. is there a way to se tit to vista in bios and if there is an error i can just repair..the problem is what if the repair fails...my last install failed boot and the repair could not fix it leading me to have to reinstall.

 

No, I think the hard drive is fine (you can always run various diagnostics). It's a Seagate, right? They run hotter (but are also rated 5C higher than other brands). Putting a second one in will undoubtably increase your heat, so fix the not running in SATA mode issue first, and get a cooler (I assume you don't, they really help).

 

i will make a passive cooler via sheet metal or cardboard and aluminium foil wrapped a lot lol. i wil change the bios mode to vista after my installation of empire e 3 and wow patch lol

 

google changing to ahci mode, you have to make a registry tweak first, then it all works seamlessly


Edit:

From x64bit.net

Locate and then click the following registry subkey:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Msahci
In the right pane, right-click Start in the Name column, and then click Modify.
In the Value data box, type 0, and then click OK.
On the File menu, click Exit to close Registry Editor.

After having modified the Registry key, you can go on with the installation of the driver:

2: Open Device Manager, and scroll down to, and highlight storage controller.

Click the Action button, on the Top and select Add New Hardware (on my Danish version of Vista, it's called something like "Add Older Hardware"

When the Guide starts, choose to manually install the HW. You will be presented with the option: Show all types.
Scroll to, and highlight the Storage Controller, click next. In the next window, you will have several devices to choose from. Scroll down to Microsoft, and in the right panel choose "Microsoft iSCSI-initiator" and the installation of the driver takes place.

This is the weird thing that makes it possible to add the AHCI drivers. You now have two instances of "Microsoft iSCSI-initiator" in device manager.

3: The operation is to highlight the newly added "Microsoft iSCSI-initiator", and click "Update Driver Software"
Choose to manually add the driver instead of automatically search for updated driver, and click next. Now add your "F6 drivers"

Reboot, and change the BIOS setting to AHCI.

The Short story:

1.Change registry key
2.Add new HW (2 pieces of the same "Microsoft iSCSI-initiator" driver)
3.Update the newly added "Microsoft iSCSI-initiator" to "AMD Compatible Raid Controller"
4.Reboot and make the changes in BIOS to configure the SATA controller to operate in AHCI mode.
5. Start your system without getting the BSOD

I know this is a poor explanation, but I hope someone may find it useable.

 

makes sense, however once the registry and drivers are changed how go i put the matrix driver in before restart after reboot during boot? and those drivers... are they available form the win7 drivers area or ddo i have to download them? i will research a little more today and do it today or tm.

 

This installation dropped my idle and load temperatures by 10C in Windows 7 X64.

 

do i need to update the AHCI driver manually if using only one SATA hdd?

it seems that only step 1 and 2 is needed....

 

No, if you do not change the bios from xp->vista (into ahci mode) it will then bluescreen on startup as it is now expecting an ahci device (also, you won't actually get ahci functionality/benefits, as the hardware isn't in ahci mode)

 

Question, what exactly are my "f6" drivers? Running vista 64bit ultimate.

 

The 64-bit Floppy Configuration Utility on this page:

http://tinyurl.com/ok3jyx

On a seperate note, if anyone uses Bart PE with XP or other bootable custom recovery CD's, they may need to rebuild these or slipstream with the added Intel Matrix Drivers otherwise you will get the same BSOD.

I had to rebuild my BartPE to allow it to run but if you did a build using Vista you shouldn't need to do this.

 

im at the last step but it wont let me install or update to the new f6 drivers saying i have the latest version already.

 

^ nvm "i ended up changing the bis b4 you said that however it worked so i saved about 7oC doing nothing or installing a game defrag i saved 5-9 degrees. staying at 61 and holding of a defrag and installation of crysis."

 

my caddy has arrived!!!
now using it.....the harddrive runs VERY cool inside it..no joke

 

What caddy? Link?

What temps?

 

im very interested...what caddy? any links? pics? temps?

 

i copy my post from other website...
enjoy

its blur...sorry....but this is the part you need to trim in order for the caddy to fit inside...


but notice one thing..there is another mod other than trimming the caddy part...
that is to drill two holes behind the caddy so that you can actually put the screws to lock the caddy in the position , just to make sure that the caddy it properly locked..

another thing is that...by removing the ODD(optical disk drive) means every time you need to use the ODD ,you MUST turn off the computer and replace the caddy with ODD....theres NO WAY to remove it while the SYSTEM is running or things will go haywire...
1st solution is to buy external HDD that can BOOT from BIOS through USB...THIS IS IMPORTANT....if you dont have USB ODD that can boot through BIOS means you cannot do any windows installation by booting directly into the optical device

2st solution , buy a DVD-rom caddy
like this one http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-slim-BOOTAB...s_ET?hash=item3a4e6dda68&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

this is the item...i buy from this seller...had to say it is a reputable seller...and the price is also DAMN CHEAP...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290297720383

 

here is the temps..
before and after usage of computer for around 5 hours




my old toshiba 200gb runs even hotter than the WD5000BEVT which i put on the caddy..

this is purely magic show

 

Hi all. I'd like to join this discussion after getting my 8662 yesterday.

I'm currently sitting in a coffee shop writing emails/surfing and my WD 320 Gig 5400 HD just hit 52 C. Not an unreasonable temp, but higher than I would like (not to mention the heat on the palm rest) and I'm hoping this thread will help. I'm running Vista Ultimate at the moment, so switching to SATA/AHCI mode should help, no?. Thanks.

 

Switching to that mode reduced my temps a lot by about 10C but you will have to follow the steps earlier on in this thread otherwise you will get a BSOD.

 

So I read.

 

Being fairly new to this, let me make sure of the steps.

I have Vista-64 and would probably want to add another HDD inside.

I first replace the Disk drive with the HDD (probably want to make it look like the disk drive for a clean look)

I change my registry so i can change to achi mode.

Is that it and are these steps correct?

 

if you had installed vista
and the BIOS has been set to VISTA...

then no need to change the registry..

it is for those who installed vista without changing the bios settings to vista first...

 

So all i have to do is replace the disk drive with the HDD and i should be fine?

 

yes...it should be fine