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    Upgrading D901c with original MOBO! Can this really work?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Doodles, Feb 8, 2010.

  1. Doodles

    Doodles Starving Student

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    Hey guys, last time i lurked here was recently over the bad company 2 issue. I found i can play the game after upgrading my video card drivers to the 190s (it used to shutdown as soon as i joined a server, fixed that)

    now i play on 1280 res. with ALL on low and get 20-30 fps while sniping in the back, and lag to CRAP on one-on-one combat, basically can't play the assault class AT ALL.

    From people on this very forum, as well as a certain few persons on this forum have PMed me to let me know EVEN WITH AN ORIGINAL motherboard i CAN move to an 8800GTX and the E8x00 series processors and possibly the Q6x00 processors!!!

    NOW, two issues, first is that hopefully, i can get the processors for free from techie friends who have already upgraded beyond these parts and have these processors left over and will give them to me for nothing! :D

    however, i will in the end have to purchase the 8800m GTX or the 9800m GTX, and obviously I won't do that until I'm sure this works.



    Since i can get the processors for free, I'm probably going to try that in the summer as my computer at MOST will sell for like 700 bucks, and i still need it to game and cant afford buying a new beast like this.

    So, i'm looking for anybody with words of wisdom, PROOF for OR against this working. I feel like there is proof this WONT work or else there would be no reason for new mobo's in the first place. Let me know guys.

    Help me out?

    EDIT:ADDING: after another quick forum search, i found old threads where people think a single 8800mGTX wouldnt be a problem, that the mobo was for an SLI issue. So maybe a single 9800m GTX wouldnt be bad either? cause im NOT going SLI!! if anything i'm gonna just change the CPU (hopefully for free to an E8400, and buy a single 8800 or 9800)

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=365302&page=3&highlight=9260
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=303910&highlight=9260

    ^^ These two threads basically say i can run even a Q9650 with an 8800mGTX on the first mobo (even though i dont have 1066FSB, i apparently CAN make it 1333 with a pinmod/or bios update??)
    this is actually making me REALLY hopeful!
     
  2. Rorschach

    Rorschach Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    8800m gtx would be a pointless upgrade for sli 7950's. Just sell the junker for 700$ and purchase a new laptop. The lowest I have seen a 8800m gtx for sale is 250$+ another 250$ for the cpu. You can easily find a new more powerfull laptop for 1300$.
     
  3. Doodles

    Doodles Starving Student

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    ALthough this is true, the two big issues here are i can get an E8400 for free, AND i only have a SINGLE 7950GTX, sorry if my sig misled you, i never ended up getting SLI...

    so, if i buy a single 8800GTX for 250, i may be able to get the E8400 for free, heirgo

    if i can do this upgrade:
    E6700 (2.66) ---> E8400 (3.00G)--- FREE
    SINGLE 7950 ---> SINGLE 8800 GTX 250$
    then, for 250 bucks i get a faster cooler processor and an even better GPU. for a price i can afford, i dont have 1300, but i may be able to scrounge up a little over 200. and remember for 250 bucks, i think this is a big upgrade to both the cpu and gpu (again, since ive been working with a single 7950)
     
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    Rorschach Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    I'm completely lost you asked about quadcores not dual cores and you can't even afford the upgrade? So whats the point of this thread if you can't afford to even do this? 900$ is still enough to buy a new g60v or you could keep it in the 700$ range and buy something used in the forums. Pin modding "might work" but you would only be getting a cpu up to current cpu speeds. There just isn't any point in doing any upgrades to your laptop compared to getting something new.
     
  5. Doodles

    Doodles Starving Student

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    well, like i said, I kinda have quite a few techie friends who probably already have Q6x00 chips and E8x00 chips laying around that they're too lazy to sell, or will just give it to me as their friends, so im curious if i can put those in. IF the processor does work, i'll scrounge up so money to get a 8800 or 9800 (altho the 9800 probably doesnt work) remember the processor is free... the only thing i'm gonna buy is a GPU and ONLY if i can put a new processor in.

    You dont think its a good idea for 250 bucks to move up from 2.66 duo to a cooler (45nm) 3.00 duo or 2.66 quad and a 7950 to an 8800?

    such an upgrade will be able to extend the life of this baby till at least ONE more year at which point i graduate college and will probably build a desktop =/.

    EDIT: As for anyone still reading this thread, please ignore these last few posts and stick to my main question(s). @Rorschach, i apologize, maybe i didnt explain my situation very well, and I will since i must. I'm currently a college student who needs a gaming computer i can take both home and use at school (I dorm, but i go home a lot, etc). The D901c is actually in this case perfect for someone like me, i look at it more as a portable desktop than a laptop lol. I PLAN on actually building a moderately expensive desktop when i graduate in May 2011. So all im trying to do is cheaply extend the life of this laptop to play games like bad company 2 and Bioshock 2 and soon to be starcraft 2 while in college. I already know in may 2011 i WILL have a new desktop, it makes no sense to buy a laptop for a year and half. I hope that explains my predicament Rorschach

    SO again, plz help me figure out How upgradeable a native motherboard is. So far from reading past threads, the E8x00 series and Q6x00 series DOES work (although someone explain how the E8x00 works cause i thought my mobo is maxed at 1066 FSB, i didnt think a bios update can fix that?) and does anyone know if anything beyond an 8800 will be stable in here, who knows, maybe i'll splurge and go for the 9800 if i can to get some more life outta here.
     
  6. Doodles

    Doodles Starving Student

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    talking with my computer techie friends...

    I can get a both Q6600 and E8400 for FREE!!!

    I have a native motherboard! (9260)

    Does anyone know if i can pin-mod a Q6600 and make it work in this thing?
    because the pin-mod makes the FSB 1333... but isnt my mobo held at 1066 FSB?
    and can i take an E8400 cause that ALSO has FSB 1333?
    ANYONE?
    also, will the 8800M GTX SINGLE go in my laptop and work (again, native mobo)
     
  7. Doodles

    Doodles Starving Student

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    ONE final bump! GOOD NEWS
    I opened up my computer (dont know why i havent yet)
    i have motherboard revision V5.1A!!! that technically means i have a 9261, EVEN THOUGH i BOUGHT THIS IN AUGUST '07 (which was before sager even announced they were sending it out... kinda weird. but watever...

    SO, NOW i'm pretty sure i can Put pretty much any processor I want in here right? and maybe a single 8800m GTX... does that sound right

    i saw someones sig with a 9261 with Q9651.... and the 8800mGTX apparently only has a sleep issue, and no SLI.... i wonder if 9800mGTX single is possible =/ and 280 for that matter, since i can use the 8800...
     
  8. hanko panko

    hanko panko Notebook Evangelist

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    I bought my 9261 in October '07. Motherboard version is 5.2. I started out with an E6850, upgraded to an E8400 and finally to a Q9650. I believe the E8400 and Q9650 are from a new generation (45NM vs 65NM) and maybe your Motherboard and/or your current BIOS version will not support them.

    I think your E6700 isn't a bad processor unless you play games or run apps that you know for sure are multithreaded. I do and the Q9650 really doubled processing speed in some cases!
     
  9. Doodles

    Doodles Starving Student

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    I found out 5.1A does NOT support Quad core OR 8800... legally anyway...

    which is why im trying to find out if any1 has tried a Q6600 in MY 5.1 board. OR an 8800 for that matter, but nobodies answering

    I wanna run bad company 2 but im having a VERY hard time with this laptop doing that! THe quad core will really make a difference for this game.
     
  10. pasoleatis

    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    It could fry the MB after a while .
     
  11. Doodles

    Doodles Starving Student

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    howso? Unless its REALLY physically incompatible i run the E6700 as it is, a lower clocked, higher core processor would run a little hotter, but i do have a notebook (zalman 2000) and fans usually up running. Unless you mean it actually fries the circuitry, this thing never gets too hot, cores now idle around 37...
     
  12. pasoleatis

    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    The first motherboard for D901C had problems with quads. They needed a new revision before hey started to support quads. The slot was compatible but Clevo claimed that long time usage would damage the MB. Maybe the TDP.

    Pl
     
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    Are you kidding?
    E6700 TDP = 65W
    Q6600 TDP = 105W
    Not a good idea if you dont want to fry it since the MB is designed for dual cores which all have a max TDP of 65W..
    Perhaps it could run with a single card and a quad since the total power consumption is than still below the max, since you dont have two cards in there, but im pretty sure the cpu socket wasnt intended to handle such a high power draw on that motherboard..
    Perhaps if theres a bios update that would allow it to even recognize the quads properly you could put in a power saver quad that has the same TDP (65W) as the duals (like the Q9550S, Q9505S, Q9400S, Q8400S or Q8200S)... just perhaps..
    But considering the price of those and the little gpu upgrade youd get.. i advise you sell this laptop and buy a new laptop with that money+what you saved up for the gpu upgrade..
     
  14. Doodles

    Doodles Starving Student

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    i could probably get away with a 200 dollar 8800m GTX used cause its so old at this point. and the Q6600 G0-step is 95W... which the motherboard revision literally RIGHT after mine (5.2, i'm 5.1) handles just fine. So, i've heard I'm fine with the Q6600
     
  15. pasoleatis

    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    Yes it will work, but I think it is risky. This why they came out with a revision. At least one resseller was doing that, I am not sure how many problems they had.Ask the guy from Power Notebooks. I think they were the ones to do it a few years ago.

    PL