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    User Upgradeable?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by The_Shirt, Jun 12, 2008.

  1. The_Shirt

    The_Shirt Notebook Evangelist

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    When the 9262 and 5397 say user upgradeable graphics, does that mean I may be able to put a 9800 GXT into one of them in the future?

    Or, will the 9800 GXT require a completely different MB?

    Thanks in advance for any guidance!
     
  2. jonhapimp

    jonhapimp Notebook Virtuoso

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    we won't know until it's out but you probably could put one in it
     
  3. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    more than likely the 9800M GTX should work fine in current MXM-IV notebooks.
     
  4. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Please don't think I'm being too, too rude, but basically, since it (9800) ain't out yet, there's no way to give a meaningful answer to your question. Now, if we want to parse your question in a technical way, if we assume that by "may be able" you mean "is there a probability that is greater than 0, even if less than 1" that you'll be able to put a 9800 in, then the answer is "yes," the probability that a 9800M GTX will fit into the 9262 or 5793 without a mobo upgrade is greater than 0, but certainly less than 1.
     
  5. Heliosvector

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    *slaps you* just say yes or hopefully shyster!
     
  6. The_Shirt

    The_Shirt Notebook Evangelist

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    [email protected] would hope that a probability, any probability, would be more on a scale of 0-100 than a scale of 0-1, unless of course it was a binary probability.

    First off, never offendend. Second, I figured some of the tech heads on here would know by now what the MB requirements will be for the 9800GTX...isn't it supposed to be shipping late July, early August?

    I just find it hard to understand how a company can say user upgradeable if you can't upgrade from the highest card they advertise as "user upgradeable"...as in the 8800GTX. Don't get me wrong, I am definitely going Sager or one of the other more mainstream boutique vendors next time, as I didn't get much satisfaction/customer happiness from a recent PCMW purchase (mini-mini review soon in the "other manufacturer" forum soon...just have to see how the wife deals with it now that I've finally gotten the drivers/windows 64 to work...so much for a 3-day burn in).
     
  7. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    [​IMG]
     
  8. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    QWERTYUIOPOIUYTRE!@#$%^&*() ....

    o_O

    Upgrades....arghhhh.
    No/YEs/No...darn.
    I am crazy from this topic.
    Alright,I'll throw it in: it will take the 9800M GTX, there I said it!
     
  9. The_Observer

    The_Observer 9262 is the best:)

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    Most probably yes.
     
  10. theriko

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    @The_Shirt - the standard scale for probability IS 0-1...thats the standard...live with it ;)
     
  11. The_Shirt

    The_Shirt Notebook Evangelist

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    @Theriko...but where on the scale of 0/100 to 100/100 (i.e., 0-1) does the probability lie of my question so we can express it as a percent probability? I personally feel limiting it from 0-1 is the easy way out...it would be more "usable" to determine if there is less than or more than a 75% chance I can upgrade...or maybe even 50% should I decide I'm willing to flip a coin and take the 50/50 chance. Actually just kidding on all that, just found the statistical answer to a simple question a little over the top...
     
  12. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Well, since the real interval between 0 and 1 contains more numbers than the entire set of natural numbers does, all you need to do is multiply the value derived from the range 0 to 1 by 100, and append a percentage sign on the end to get comfy.

    If you want a percentage, then the most reasonable is 50.0000....01% That is, a percentage that asymptotically approaches 50% from above. Just enough to make it more likely than not (which, by the way, will keep you from having to pay tax penalties if you've been taking aggressive positions on your returns :D ), but beyond that, nobody knows how much bigger "likely" is than "not" is.
     
  13. lastrebelstanding

    lastrebelstanding Notebook Evangelist

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    Can't you just state your point with funny pictures again? :D
     
  14. The_Shirt

    The_Shirt Notebook Evangelist

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    Now if only my fund brokers would actually invest in something that was currently providing ANY returns...maybe then I could take advantage of the .01 aggressiveness!
     
  15. bigjohnsonforever

    bigjohnsonforever Notebook Evangelist

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    Take it for what its worth- until something is released you have no idea if it will be compatible with current tech, also "user upgradeable" is more like "vendor upgradeable" considering most of us have warranties we want to keep, so we must return to vendor for upgrade... (I got 2yrs 9mo left on my warranty)
     
  16. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    If a component is advertised as "user upgradeable" you are not going to void your warranty by doing the upgrade, provided you use ordinary due care (e.g., wearing an anti-static wristband) when you do the upgrade.
     
  17. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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  18. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    LOL.
    User Upgradeable sounds like a utopic thought , heck, Clevo doesn't bother that much with MXM as we originally thought , or Nvidia is breathing down their neck with BS.
    Fact of the matter is, no reseller could confirm/infirm this and right now, I am SOL with my 5791 ...
    Oh well, we can only hope for better things to come.
    [​IMG]
     
  19. bigjohnsonforever

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    Sweet, but I suppose you would have to buy approved parts from the vendor?
     
  20. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Depends on your vendor.
    For example, sager units can be upgraded by parts usually done by sager, but they can come from other places too, as long as they follow the Clevo pattern.

    I don't think you're tied to your specific vendor nor would should you be.
     
  21. Relowe

    Relowe Notebook Consultant

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    NOT a good thread to read when you first wake up. :p
     
  22. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Why not? I usually read threads like this in the morning and I am normal:

    [​IMG]
     
  23. lastrebelstanding

    lastrebelstanding Notebook Evangelist

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    Eleron, what happened to you? Pictures with your posts? I think you contracted the Shyster fever! :D
     
  24. bigjohnsonforever

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    So... 2 hopes then:

    1) M57xRU-U can upgrade to 9800 (0.5000000000000001 probability)
    2) M57xRU-U doesn't need to be sent in for motherboard revisions... (0.49999999999999999999 probability)
     
  25. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Oh, I think he's been practicing that art-form longer than I have. :cool:
     
  26. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Yea,pretty much, but I'm tallent-less lol.
    [​IMG]

    Again, I must apeal to the resellers,give me hope! i want the 9800M GTX, can I has it ? :D
     
  27. bigjohnsonforever

    bigjohnsonforever Notebook Evangelist

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    johnson can haz 9800 to?
     
  28. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Well, you wouldn't have much of an upgrade from a 8800M GTX, but from a 7950GTX, now that's another story...
     
  29. Relowe

    Relowe Notebook Consultant

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    Well, how much would a mobo swap cost on average assuming we'd have to upgrade?
     
  30. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Talent-less? No, my friend, talent-less-ness takes .....


    .....a VELVET ELVIS
    [​IMG]
     
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  31. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    A mobo would go for 150-200$, add a decent 750$ to the card and that equals that you are [​IMG]D
     
  32. Relowe

    Relowe Notebook Consultant

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    Nah, that's not bad, but I would want 2 cards anyway. :)
     
  33. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    WHat 2 cards? you buy the new one, sell the old one. Simple as that.
     
  34. Relowe

    Relowe Notebook Consultant

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    I use SLI though.
     
  35. eleron911

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    So get both, sell 2.
    But the upgrade would probably cost you over 1500$ in cards alone, so that is the ****tiest price tag I have ever seen for an upgrade.
    Oh well.
     
  36. The_Shirt

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    Now that's something I hadn't even considered. I am currently using a Dell 1710 with a 7900 GTX. Would it just be a MB swap and new video card (for 9800GTX...or heck, even 8800GTX), or would it have to be a complete hardware upgrade (RAM, HD, Wireless, BT, etc)? And in the event it is even remotely doable, any recommendations on where one might get such a thing accomplished?
     
  37. eleron911

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    Well,mobo swap was from 7950GTX to 8800M GTX, nothing else.
    Maybe the 9800M GTXs will be supported natively, so you will have to wait.
    I have a hard time believing a new mobo will be required for them...
     
  38. Shyster1

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    I doubt very much that a motherboard upgrade will be required this time around. The reason for the mobo upgrade last time was that NVidia built most of the GPU in-house, and refused to provide support for the industry-standard methods of providing display data for so-called EDID-less display units. That change was necessitated by the requirements under the MXM standard for running two cards in SLi.

    The change from last time should - I am assuming - mean that the Clevo mobo for the 926x series is now in compliance with the MXM standard vis-a-vis EDID-less displays, which means that a further mobo upgrade should not be required (at least on that particular point).
     
  39. Gophn

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    Well put Shyster. :)
     
  40. MKang25

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    Hopefully it costs like 600-700 and we can sell our 8800's for half that.
     
  41. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Hey,I may want a 8800M GTX when you guys upgrade to the 9800M GTX :D