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    Utilization Soultion, Need a Volunteer

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Xtrophy, Aug 1, 2012.

  1. Xtrophy

    Xtrophy Notebook Consultant

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    So I have been messing with my registry (I know, shame on me) but I came across something interesting. A particular key that I change brings my skyrim (with the Vsync disabled through the Skyrim.ini file) and Diablo III utilization to over 90%.

    I however, don't have any other games (such as Crysis 2 and BF3) that have major issues with utilization to try.

    Is there anyone out there willing to listen to my craziness and see if I have found something, or If I have just discovered nothing?
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  2. james_het

    james_het Notebook Geek

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    of corse, share ur thoughts with us please, the more can try anything related to Enduro, the better.....
     
  3. Xtrophy

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    What games are known for issues? I'd like to give it a bit more of a test. From what I can tell you must disable V sync for this to work, but once disabled usage goes up. I thought it was a false positive at first, but frame rates went up for me as well as heat (Not by much, just a few degrees, I think it was 3 in Skyrim).

    I added some screen shots from Dead Island, Skyrim and D3, all which had the problem for me. I have tried with Tera, however there is no in game option to turn off V sync, and disabling it in the CCC does not seem to have changed it in game.
     
  4. Dotcom93

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    I'm getting excited! I'll try BF3 for you, share your knowledge :)
     
  5. Xtrophy

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    I'm sending you a PM with what I did, Give it a shot and let me know before I send it to the public lol.

    EDIT:

    For some reason I had Shadows off in Tera. With them enabled I get to 85ish Usage now, better than the 65ish I was getting.
     
  6. james_het

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    can u please send me a PM too so that i can test this fix too. Thanks.
     
  7. Montage

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    I´m eagerly awaiting results :)
     
  8. Xtrophy

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    As am I! I want to play BF3 on this thing, but haven't bought it due to the issues with utilization. I am hoping this gives him something to work with. I have had no problems with it so far, no errors nothing I have noticed has gone wrong. So I hope nothing goes wrong on his end, which is why I wanted a single person to test as opposed to the whole community. If some one is brave, and understands that I have no responsibility if something goes wrong (Its just the registry, make yourself a system restore point an you will be fine) I will send the same thing to them I suppose.
     
  9. james_het

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    can u please send to me too the registry fix u would like to test? i can test BF3 and some other games
     
  10. Xtrophy

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    Well, bad news it seems. The fix did nothing to help BF3 on the first person I tried it on. I am sending it to a second to give it a whirl before I count it out completely. I have a few games myself and it has helped some (Skyrim was a biggie), but BF3 might be more advanced than me!
     
  11. Dotcom93

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    Indeed, I tried it but usage is still at 50-60% in a 64 operation firestorm. (low-medium settings)

    I wish you could try it yourself, Xtrophy.

    The OP has tested Kombuster and in every mode he's getting 99%. That's something I think no one had achieved yet.

    I, on the other hand, am getting 70-80% usage in some modes (D3D9, OpenGL2/3), which could mean i'm doing something wrong, or just another driver version. More on this soon.
     
  12. evlmangesh

    evlmangesh Notebook Guru

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    Hey there :) , I am interested in testing it out as well!
     
  13. RogerCD

    RogerCD Notebook Guru

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    I have BF3, I'm interested to try out.
     
  14. spettow

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    I can try on max payne 3, which also face problems with enduro
     
  15. mahalsk

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    No problem here also. Can try it with bf3 mult. also Formula 1, which suffers realy bad, NFS SHIFT2, and others. Just shot me A PM
    Thanks.
     
  16. Xtrophy

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    Thanks for all the volunteers. Unfortunately the fix does not seem to affect Dx11 games. I am working on pinpointing exactly what is different. If I find it I will be posting here and looking for more people to try it, so keep an eye out.
     
  17. TrantaLocked

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    Thanks man, you're a boss. +1 rep for you effort, whether or not you can find a solution. No one is obligated to do some thing like this, but it is awesome to see a normal guy using his talent for the good of a user base.
     
  18. Xtrophy

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    Thanks man, I don't know if my snooping can be called a talent, but I'll take it!

    I need someone with the utilization problem in Skyrim to message me, I've got it working at 99% on mine at 70 FPS everything on Ultra, I want to see if it works for someone else.
     
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    You should try to lower your setting/resolution, in most games you get lower utilization.
     
  20. Xtrophy

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    I'll test it and report back.

    EDIT: 80-85 is what I would get, though if I stood still it would drop to 60. I have noticed that in Skyrim the usage on low settings goes up when I am running down a path or so, as opposed to dropping when I am sitting still.

    It seems to be the opposite in DX11 games, such as Battlefield and Saints Row. In those games (Crysis does it I believe as well) looking away from the center of the map shoots the usage all the way up and looking at the center lowers the usage. In all honesty I am beginning to believe there is a software bottleneck somewhere in DX11. CPU usage does not seem to be effecting it. Changing affinity or unparking does not change it, so I assume it is not a cpu throttling issue, however someone could check their frame rates in BF3 normally vs it set to two cores and see how big the difference is.


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  21. iaTa

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    My money is still on a hardware issue.
     
  22. TrantaLocked

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    How are you seeing your GPU temperature in the overlay? I have the latest build installed, and I only see utilization and fan speed (which are always at zero since MSI doesn't read the fan correctly).
     
  23. spettow

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    There is an option on afterburner which allows to choose which data will apear on the screen: FPS, gpu utilization, temps, fan speed, etc.


    Just remember to open msi afterburner for these configurations after opened a game which uses 7970m
     
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    I highly doubt this.
     
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    At this point I am not sure if it is just limited to me. I am currently retracing my steps, as no one else seems to be able to recreate what I did with what I thought I changed.

    All signs point to software limitation, however. If it was a hardware limitation, looking at the sky wouldn't up the gpu usage. I don't believe it is a cpu bottleneck as I get nearly identical performance when I bench my cpu and run games at the same time. (Tera and Blending in Prime95. Although loading times a MUCH slower, the frame rate is exactly the same.) I also have tested the intel card. When in use it is at 100% all the time none stop. (As long as what you are doing stresses it of course, such as gaming). Putting all of this together I think it is a simple case of drivers only using part of the GPU, the same way that crossfire used to only (and still does in some cases) use one of the cards.

    What ever I changed that gave me max utilization on Skyrim was perfect. At this point I'm still researching to pinpoint the exact controller for it. I will tell you this however; With max utilization and ultra settings Skyrim is 70 FPS, but getting the card to 90 degrees in a gaming environment. While 90 might be okay in benching/kombusting, hitting 90 in game usage is a wee bit hot for me. EDIT: (Repasting is coming soon.)

    I personally think that AMD made a simple, amateur mistake. When you are working on something, such as a wiring problem, you look at one wire at a time till you find the issue. You don't change them all and hope for the best. With Enduro and Zero core as well as all the other power saving things they tossed into this generation, one of them is saving heat I think. They have no idea which one since they threw all of them into it together. At this point I feel positive saying this is a power saving issue in the driver, however I can't tell you what exactly is wrong with it.

    Over the next week or so I am gonna be looking through the Hex codes in the ATI drivers looking for heat/powersavers and see what I can find. Wish me luck in that one!
     
  26. TrantaLocked

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    Temperature ISN'T there.
     
  27. Xtrophy

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    It is there for me in 2.2.1 Go to settings, go to the monitoring tab and make sure the box is check by it (click on it).

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    you may need to open kombustor before starting afterburner - this will switch to 7970m instead of HD4000.
     
  29. TrantaLocked

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    This worked, however MSI was already seeing the 7970m, just without temps. Your method added temps and clocks which were previously missing.