Visual Differences Between The Different Screen Options. Photos?

Wait, are you going to allow current users to also have the option for the IPS RGBLED option?



This is like a dream come true!

Hopefully when I send mine in for a recall, they will also do me a screen swap at an upgrade price..

 

edit: nvm will repost

 

PS thats going to be a custom option, so I'm pretty sure that sager won't be doing those screen swaps And we'll have them down here for those USA dwellers also.

 

Woot Woot!

Any idea on the pricing oh dear mythlogic..

I guess back to our 100+ish PM's about screens...

 

Have no clue at the moment. Still a few months off, gotta see one in action first before we get to the $$ part.

 

For clarity, is the bolded statement only referring to a 15" screen becoming available, or is this related to the creation of a 16:9 17" IPS as well?

 

Like Mythlogic said, it's going to be a custom option not covered by Sager/Clevo. The swap will be done in our labs.
The pricing is still unavailable.

 

Sure thing, keep me posted.

Now for that kind of upgrade, I'm gonna go sell off my organs to be on the bleeding edge of screen technology..

 

Uh... keep your eyes. Otherwise the screen upgrade might not be prudent.

 

LOL.

I guess a kidney will do.

 

Really tempted to switch to the 6970 and instead of taking the money back, plopping it on a screen upgrade...

How often am I going to notice?

I wonder now what my current screen is... Anyone remember what the default WUXGA LG panel on the XPS m1530 is?

Seems to be this panel but can't get the gamut on it...

Dell XPS M1530 Laptop LCD Screen 15.4 WUXGA(1920x1200) Glossy

I would be satisfied with a similar gamut to the one I currently have but its hard to compare... My wife's Asus UL30a I don't like the screen much at all...

 

Ouch. OK.

The backlight technology has drastically changed from CCFL -> LED.

CCFL is like having a "bulb" that lights up the entire screen, and thus does not show a specific "bleed" like LED does.

No matter what CCFL screens are said to be as good as, they are not going to be as bright as the LEDs. ( Dual-lamp CCFL's may be brighter at first, but they degrade over time and get less and less bright.... sad. )

The one advantage CCFL screens have is the contrast ratio and the black representation. Other than those qualities, CCFL screens take up more power, degrade over time, and lack in brightness or in gamut.

I do not know what the contrast ratio on that screen may be, but it will likely be higher than the basic 60% screen gamut V.0 or V.1's contrasts.

However, it can be safe to be said that the V.4 with its B+RG technology will by far be better in EVERYTHING compared to the CCFL LG screens.

And also, the IPS RGBLED of the HP series that mythlogic and Aikimox are hoping to implement in Sager/Clevo models will by far be better in EVERYTHING compared to the V.4 B+RG screens in terms of viewing angle, gamut, and brightness.

Now can you see why I'm off to sell my kidneys?

 

According to the datasheet on that panel its calculated gamut in NTSC percentage (How we're measuring things in this thread) its 46.268% NTSC color gamut.

 

Hmm so I can't really go wrong!

Too bad I do lose a bit on the viewing angles based on your pictures, this one is readable close to 160+ degrees from the side and doesn't really degrade until I tilt it all the way back or so far forward that I can't type on it.

I have noticed that the backlight is getting dimmer though.

 

Nice work here Mythlogic! I can't wait for my v4 NP5160!

 

Also I'll have some calibrated photos up either tomorrow or wednesday, as our new spyder is almost here.

 

Out of curiosity, any reason you guys went with Spyder over X-rite or the others? Spyder seems less expensive, but there is some dithering on the photo boards about which is better on laptop screens.

I remember when you had your choice of color calibration vendors: X-Rite, X-Rite, or X-Rite. LOL...

 

Yea we read a bunch of those threads and it was like reading threads around here. We went with the spyder because it was also more compatible with other color correcting software that we will be using for other stuff (read our marketing guy drools over these screens too).

 

I understand completely.

I ran a service bureau in the early 90's, before large format ink jets. It usually took the better part of a morning to calibrate our Mac Quadra 950 and Versatec color electrostatic plotter. Then you'd have a liquid toner line clog, and have to start all over again. Thankfully, I had understaff for that sort of thing.

 

Calibrated Picture of the V.4 is up, along with all of its color-spec details.

thanks!

 

V.4 calibrated is the schweetness!

 

Sweet. Mythlogic - when will V.4 be an option on the configurator on your website?

EDIT - sorry, I just realized the V.4 screens are only for the 15.6" notebooks so far. New question - do you have an ETA on the high gamut matte 17.3" screens for the NYX 1711?

Also - sorry this is off-topic, but I'm too new a member to send a PM and I don't think it deserves a whole thread - but how come the PC3-12800 1600MHz SODIMM memory option is only available in a 4GB configuration? I'm assuming 1600MHz is faster, if only slightly, than the PC3-10600 1333MHz; is this accurate?

 

Wrong thread for this, but I believe the chipsets only allow 1600MHz if two DIMMs are in use. Any more, and it downclocks to 1333MHz.

 

Thanks (and apologies again for the off-topic post).

Back on topic - which would have a more crisp/vibrant picture, a 90% gamut glossy screen, or a 95% gamut matte screen?

PS - thanks for all the info, everybody; this is an interesting topic that I've never looked into before.

 

Tough call. Best bet is to decide between 15 or 17 inch, then take the premium screen in whichever you choose.

p.s. - you need 6+ posts to send PMs

 

I'm definitely going with the 8170 (17 inches). Right now only a 90% glossy screen is offered, but it sounds like a 17" 95% matte screen might be offered soon. Given the Sandy Bridge delay, I may as well place my order to get in line; I can always change the screen if another is offered before my unit ships.

 

I might have missed something, but where'd you get that idea?

 

That is another screen that MIGHT come out soon (Read May'ish) if it does we will do our best to carry it. Right now its in the same boat as the IPS. They say its coming, we'll see if it materializes. If you want the best screen right now and for the next few months, the 90% glossy is the way to be.

 

16:9 17" Ips?

 

We'll see what drops =) But what they are discussing is yes a 17" IPS panel But relax, its all just speculation at the moment, no one outside of the screen manu's have seen one work. We're just reporting what we have been told.

 

^^ True, there are some rumors but nothing solid yet...

 

What about 16:10 rumours? I know chances are almost 0, but I have to right to dream no?

 

No you do not have the right to dream /dreamcrush

 

16:10 is most likely gone (at least from laptops)

 

Dell Precission notebooks and Alienware still have it. There is still hope in this world.

 

But not in 15 inch sizes

 

Those are the older models (M6500, W70xx, 8740w, M17X R2). They are going to be replaced this summer.

 

Alienware R3 has switched over to the 16:9 side...

Hope only remains on the new precision line..

 

New Precision line will sport 16:9 screens.

 

I guess they are really gone .... I can't believe it. I actually have applications for which I will have to constantly scroll down because of those 120 missing pixels.

This makes me sad, it really does .

 

Yeah, external monitors seem to be the way to go for 16:10..

 

Totally with you on the 16:10's

/hugs my Samsung T240HD man I LOVE this thing.

 

I thought the new SB processors won't support 16x10 - wouldn't that effect external monitors too?

 

SB won't support 16:10?

Can I look at the source? I'm really curious as to how that can even be possible at an architectural level..

 

ugh, can't find it of course - every laptop using SB is 16x9 (even those that used to be 16x10 like M17x), and I could have sworn I saw in a NBR thread that the SB chips won't support 16x10; something about the integrated graphics that comes with them

hopefully someone who knows what they're talking about will come along

 

CPU has nothing to do with supported aspect ratio. What the thread might have been saying was, "no Sandy Bridge equipped machines are supporting 16:10 LCDs", instead of "Sandy Bridge does not support 16:10 LCDs", which is different.

 

yeah, either I don't remember what I read correctly, or whoever said it was wrong

 

no way... too many external monitors would fail if that was the case, and enterprise widescreens are mostly 16:10 in my experience... the big shops like HP and Dell wouldn't let Intel get away with it when their customers would then have to replace all their monitors and might then decide not to upgrade to SB at all and just wait...

 

Thanks Mythlogic. Sweet - one less decision to make!

 

I think you meant this guy. Sad news...