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    WD Velociraptor WD5000HHTZ in Clevo W110ER?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Milardo, Jul 16, 2012.

  1. Milardo

    Milardo Notebook Consultant

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    Hi,

    I've read threads about the wd velociraptor not being fully compatible with any laptops because of height and power req. So first, the height of the drive is 15 mm? Would my Clevo W110ER fit this, i measured it and I'm not sure. 15 mm is not a standard laptop drive size, I actually measured it and may be possible that if fits but I'm not sure. However does the clevop W110er have the 12 v power necessary to power drive? Thanks for any and all good responses!
     
  2. aduy

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    thats a 3.5" drive so no it wont work in a laptop which requires a 2.5" drive, however you could get an ssd such as the mushkin chronos 240gb for around the same price as that and it would be much, much much faster, and less noisy i think too.
     
  3. Milardo

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    it is a 2.5 drive in a 3.5 frame
     
  4. aduy

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    do you have one, or do you want to buy one?
     
  5. Milardo

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    Going to buy one for 199.95.
     
  6. aduy

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    i would just get an ssd because its going to be about 3 times faster sequentially and the access times will be much faster on an ssd in comparison to even the velociraptor. also you are correct it is 2.5" but its .6" tall and the slot in the w110er is probably around .33" tall so it simply wont fit. i say get a big 240gb ssd, or a 120gb ssd and an external hdd or maybe get the 750gb hybrid drive.
     
  7. Milardo

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    actuallly i measured it and should fit, the drive is 15 mm i think, people from prostar says that 15mm should fit. but unsure about voltage
     
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    Can't see the point of it. Its a fast hdd not really meant for laptops like that. As has been said, might as well get an ssd or hybrid.
     
  9. Milardo

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    well i might try it if i can , just emailed clevo support asking about voltages.
     
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    Even if it does work, why do you need it?
     
  11. Milardo

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    Why not? its fast good capacity and something different and cheap
     
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    Its still considerably slower and more power hungry than an ssd and not neccessarily any faster than a hybrid. Your choice.
     
  13. Milardo

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    Does anybody know if the clevo has the necessary 12v capability though?
     
  14. aduy

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    its not really cheap haha 200 bucks is pretty steep, and there is no 12v for laptops, as far as i know....
     
  15. Milardo

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    it is when i compared to 512 gb ssd for around $400
     
  16. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    yeah thats true, but you should compare it to a hybrid drive, which will be faster, or to one ssd internal drive and an external hard drive.

    i dont mean to sound rude i just dont think paying 200 bucks for a non ssd drive is worth it, it would be much more effective to just get an ssd and an external hard drive.
     
  17. Milardo

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    So I just got my reply back from goldenstarusa and they aren't sure, told me to contact prostar again for testing?
     
  18. Milardo

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    Talked to prostar and they cannot confirm either, so I guess I have to do it myself.
     
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  20. Milardo

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    Yes, i know about the battery life, i have nothing against the hybrid drive, i have one right now, but i think it would be cool if the velociraptor could work and work well.
     
  21. Bytales

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    I ordered a 2 TB 2,5'' hdd from western digital. Still hasnt arrived yet. I think it will fit in the x7200 drive bay togther with a 7mm ssd. Thats why i also ordered a 64gb samsung 830 series, just for testing purposes (will send it back, if it fits and get a 512 gb aftewards)

    The 2TB 2,5 inch hdd is suppose to be a server drive. I dont know about the 12v now. But since the x7200 is suppose to be a desktop in a laptop, maybe it will work, if it indeed works at 12V.
    But if that is the case, i dont know.

    Cheers.
     
  22. DGDXGDG

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    ok, x7200 sata circuit, no 12v ofcourse :D
    [​IMG]
     
  23. Milardo

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    Hmm, what about the w110er?
     
  24. aduy

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    no, the 12 is usually supplied from the psu, with a cable that carries the 12v, in a laptop that doesnt exist because nearly all drives run off of 5v, so they can be run from a usb.
     
  25. Milardo

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    sorry i dont understand?
     
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    It won't work is what that means. Seems a bit pointless anyway.
     
  27. saturnotaku

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    The X7200 is a notebook that uses some desktop components, employs a massive power supply (300W IIRC), and weighs 12 pounds. If such a machine doesn't use 12v, then what do you suppose the odds are that your machine, which uses standard notebook parts, has a 120-150W PSU, and weighs half as much, will?

    Not trying to sound rude, just putting it in context.
     
  28. HTWingNut

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    Raptor had its day. With large SSD's becoming reasonably priced, super fast hard drives are going to have an even smaller niche market. Other than mass storage, which I still want and need, hard drives are going to have a hard time competing in any respect to use as a system drive. I had a 150GB Raptor for over 5 years that I moved from desktop to desktop build and it still has a home in an old XP box I have. Fast as heck for that but even your run of the mill 7200rpm drives today will best it.
     
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    SATA uses 5V. If it needs an extra molex connector it'll use 12v. If it doesn't get 12V it won't work at all.
     
  31. DGDXGDG

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    i think it dont need 12v
    bcz theres "•No external power required" in spec
    means it can powered by usb only, and usb is 5v :)
     
  32. Bytales

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    if i can suscefully fit a 15mm hdd (the 2 TB one) togther with a 7mm SSD (for a total of 22m, that is the equivalent of fitting a 12,5mm and a 9,5mm) in the drive bay of the x7200, that leaves another free spot under the battery where i can fit another terabyte hdd

    THat means 3 TB storage, and ssd of 7mm hight, together in the x7200. Without messing in the optical drive bay :) Sweet, ain't it not ?
     
  33. MKEGuy

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    I want to spend to much money on something that is different when the same money could have made my computer more efficient and faster. If you have to ask this many questions, being different shouldn't be your concern. Listening to the advice of the people with more knowledge then you should be your concern. All of them are tell you that your making the wrong decision. Who CHOOSES to pay money to (for all intents and purposes) downgrade their machine? I say downgrade because again, for the same money... you could have a faster more efficient machine with an SSD or Hybrid!!

    Oh... and this is completely ignoring the fact that the drive simply wont fit and/or power up in your laptop! lol
     
  34. M17XR42012

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    I was wondering this same thing...... Right now we are at a point where Velociraptors have gotten cheap (realatively speaking) and SSD's have gotten a litte cheaper.... but for 2TB, the SSD's needed still run about $1500 each (2TB).

    Since the Velociraptors are 2.5 inch drives in a 3.5inch frame, take the frame off, now you are left with a 2.5 inch drive. The SATA controller and cable should fit the drive from the laptop.

    Is it possible to make this work in a M17XR4? if so I want 2 of them because I am not going to spend the money on 2TB in SSD's (which is still way more expensive than 2TB in 2.5 inch HDD's.
     
  35. Tmets

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    You would still need 12V to run it. Read the rest of the thread.
     
  36. Exposed88

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    Sounds like one of those dumb ideas where someone thinks it's cool to put something where it's not supposed to go.
     
  37. grunnsat

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    Well, that is a bit strong. We all want fast disks, and if a 10000 rpm disk seems possible, then it is not such a strange idea that you would like to use them. I looked at them too, but they are much to thick for my notebook. And despite the fact that they are 2.5 inch drives, they were never meant for notebooks. They may be to vulnerable, specially when you are moving the running notebook. There are some big Asus notebooks that can be equipped with 3.5 inch drives. Sounds nice, a 4TB drive in your notebook. But the same problem applies, these drives were not build for portable use, and by the way they take a lot more power and add considerably to the weight of the notebook.
     
  38. jaybee83

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    wha...?? laptops supporting internal 3.5" drives? omg :D

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  39. sirana

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    I actually support his idea. Think it's cool and would be awesome if it worked. Admittedly Hybrid Drives might be a wiser decision, but if it comes down to pure write-speed the Velociraptor is unbeaten (except for SSDs that are incredibly expensive in given sizes).
    The 680M was also not supposed to work in the x7200 (thanks Clevo...) but when you add your Hadware ID to the driver inf and use the 580M Heatsink it works perfectly fine.
     
  40. grunnsat

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    Yes, read the specs of the Asus K95VM.
     
  41. b0b1man

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    I just read this:
    18.4" 16:9 Full HD (1920x1080) LED Backlight
    And I was like WOOOW! NICE!

    But then I read that:
    NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 630M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM
    HAHAHAHA LOL!!! :D :D :D :D EPIC FAIL!!
     
  42. sirana

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    Haha my thoughts exactly :D
     
  43. Tmets

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    Did you read what it says at the top:
    Fusing power, style, and your comfort
    Really? It's like sticking a lawnmower engine in a stretch limo.
     
  44. Meaker@Sager

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    It's a media machine more than anything else, those who need a large display but don't want to splash out on a high end GPU.
     
  45. Tmets

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    Well yeah, but they could at least have put a decent mid range GPU in there.
     
  46. Meaker@Sager

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    To be honest they should have not bothered with a dedicated GPU at all and made it cheaper.
     
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    LOL, 50WHr 6-cell battery. If that thing truly houses a 3.5" HDD, then you'll get 30 minutes battery life.
     
  48. b0b1man

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    For next year, they are gonna do a SLI setup out of 630's.
    Gonna call them Hybdrid Turbo Green Mega SLI GTX725 Pro.
    Plays Windows Aero at 390FPS.
     
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    And solitaire and text adventures on high detail. Rock on!!!
     
  50. Meaker@Sager

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    I suppose the windows experience index will be their benchmark of choice?
     
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