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    Want to know if NP8662 CPU is overclockable

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by jivix, Jun 12, 2009.

  1. jivix

    jivix Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am considering purchasing an NP8662. I was wondering if I order the 2.53 Ghz Core 2 Duo, does the Sager support overclocking this? Also, is there options in the Bios for overclocking? I have a custom desktop and have a severely overclocked Pentium dual core and want to do the same with my laptop as it seems with these higher efficiency processors they can overclock without increasing voltage hardly at all and maintain almost no temperature gain.
    I am comfortable with using software like SetFSB but I would need to know the PLL for the NP8662 or at least how to find it on a laptop.
    So is it possible?
     
  2. theriko

    theriko Ronin

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    Unfortunately, the bios of the 8662 is locked down, ans setfsb doesn't work either :(
     
  3. 5482741

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    I can use SetFSB to overclock my M860TU (NP8660) from 2.53GHz to 2.833GHz.
     
  4. Eivind

    Eivind Notebook Evangelist

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    300Mhz? I thought the max and the only speedgain were 200mhz on the M860?
     
  5. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Um yeah, I never got my CPU over 200MHz. My 2.394 went to 2.586, I believe.
     
  6. scourge18a

    scourge18a Notebook Consultant

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    Which pll are you using?
     
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    I use RTM876-660, and SetFSB 2.2.107.79.
     

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  8. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    I'm pretty sure emike said attempting it with the X9100 will cause a system lockup. Be careful scourge.
     
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    This may be unrelated, but SetFSB will cause my system to freeze, if I apply the overclock while the CPU or RAM is under heavy usage.
     
  10. jivix

    jivix Notebook Enthusiast

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    So is it possible to OC the NP8662 or not? Is there a useable pll for it?
     
  11. LaptopNut

    LaptopNut Notebook Virtuoso

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    The PLL is RTM876-660 according to Kevin_Jack2.0 as well as confirmed by myself. However, if you are able to increase the clock rate, you most likely won't get anything more than a few extra mhz out of it if anything at all. Why are you so concerned with being able to overclock?

    I only have a 2.0 Ghz Q9000 and get great gaming performance. Are you planning on using some heavily CPU intensive applications?
     
  12. jivix

    jivix Notebook Enthusiast

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    Basically, yes. I do lots of video encoding and OC'ing gives some significant benefits to encoding time. Also all my current hardware gives some sort of OC'ing in it and to lose that ability would just weird me out. TY for the Pll.

    Actually, I'm sort of sad because I may not get this laptop after all... My parents think that I shouldn't have one for schoolwork simply because it allows me to play games on it... Don't ask me to explain their logic because I do not understand it at all. Plus this laptop is cheaper than the ones they were suggesting :/
     
  13. L4d_Gr00pie

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    This laptop isn't a gaming laptop, it is mobile workstation. So go ahead and give em the news! :D
     
  14. jivix

    jivix Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm trying my best... they are just dying to convince me that my decisions are wrong and that dells/hp/gateway/toshiba are much much better than some "non-mainstream" sager... Jesus christ I'm actually considering just buying this damn thing with my own money!
     
  15. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    It better not be a Mac. Which ones were they suggesting?
     
  16. k9hydr4

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    I feel your pain- I was trapped in the Dell and Toshiba status quo (spent more money on the Toshiba) before discovering the real deal behind the "name brands" -

    I say stand your ground- It may be tough, but it will be worth it-
     
  17. jivix

    jivix Notebook Enthusiast

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    Soviet Sunrise - They wanted me to pick out a Dell... Like an xps or inspiron... F that. Even the alienwares don't fit my bill, and in my opinion they are pretty ugly and cheap looking. And jesus the np8662 is cheaper than all the ones I looked at and STILL had better specs! Whatever... I'm trying to ask them but they now have it permanently set in their minds that it is a gaming computer... They even recommended I get a Gateway (when they were still considering a computer as a graduation present.)

    Also, I noticed the order form on XoticPC the GTX260m says "user upgradeable". Does this mean that it is relatively easy to replace the card? Also is it an MXM 2.0 slot? I'm not familiar with the connection type.
     
  18. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    If it has come to this, then it is top priority that you find a way to persuade your parents to leave the choice up to you. The main points that you must deliver in your argument are the price/performance of the notebook, warranty, functionality, and build quality. There are more but these should be enough to support your argument.

    Gaming notebook? Usually thats a term that I only hear in the arcade at the university. Outside the arcade, people like to label me and my friends' Clevos as mobile desktops or desktop replacements. It's only at our LAN's that our notebooks have the term "gaming" attached to it. Like L4d_Gr00pie stated, the NP8662 is a mobile workstation capable of computing all tasks you ask it to perform. Remember that this machine functions the same as every other desktop and laptop on the market. Though Sager does market the NP8662 as a gaming notebook, the only person that can decide whether it is a gaming notebook is you. It is only a gaming notebook if you want it to be a gaming notebook. I know a few gals in the girls dorm that call their cute little Acer netbooks gaming notebooks because they grind MapleStory 24/7.

    For the NP8662, user upgradeable at this point in time means user replaceable. There will be no more new cards to be released for the NP8662's MXM 2.1 slot, meaning that you are at the end of the line with the GTX 260M. You can upgrade to the GTX 280M later but the cost of the card does not justify the minimal performance increase, atleast from my tax bracket. Though if you find a potential buyer for the GTX 260M beforehand, then maybe it might be worth investing in.

    Good luck persuading your parents. I am pretty sure that they have not given you a logical reason why they do not want you to get this notebook. Who the hell says "we're not getting you this cheaper, better performing notebook because it can play games." That is one of the most incoherent premises that I hope to never hear again.
     
  19. jivix

    jivix Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you so much Soviet, I pointed them to your response and managed to partly convince them! It is not final, but I may get it conditionally! The condition would be if the laptop breaks (accidentally). Then I would get it fixed (because it is under warranty), but I would also have to pay them back for the cost of the laptop! Well, what the heck. I was considering buying the thing anyway! But, are these things as good as I have been reading, or do people get minor breakage that they don't post? I want to make sure that what I'm doing is a good idea. :/
     
  20. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    What the f*ck? Now I've heard it all. So under the terms with your parents, if the laptop breaks unintentionally, you would need to pay them back? I know that I am the kind of person that just says what other people are already thinking, but forgive me for ranting, jivix. Your parents want to put you in a position where they can say that you were wrong and they were right, and basically giving themselves full insurance over the cost of the laptop that is supposed to be given to you as a gift instead of trusting you and making you solely responsible for whatever may happen to the well being of the machine. What could have skewed their logic so badly that they would consider that? That's like saying if my parents bought me a car and the it gets rear-ended in an accident where I am on the receiving end, I would have to pay the sticker price of the car back to them instead of trusting me and making it my responsibility to take care of the damage at my expense of time and effort with the insurance company.

    I'm pretty sure that all the issues, both major and minor, have been reported on this forum, and many of those issues have been addressed. True to Clevo's quality, it's not a lot of issues and none of them are major. If you want to see a boatload of problems, pay a visit to the Averatec forums. And if something does go wrong, you are covered by a very liberal warranty from a knowledgeable small company with the additional support of users here on NBR that know their way around Clevo laptops. I can safely assume that your parents will be the arbiters in determining whether something on the machine is abnormal enough to be warranted as "broken." If you agree to their terms, you will be at in a lose/lose situation, meaning that your machine is basically free to you on borrowed time until something "breaks."
     
  21. jivix

    jivix Notebook Enthusiast

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    I definitely agree with what you've said but if you knew my parents you'd know why they are acting this way... They are pretty stubborn in their ideals, I'll just say that. Thanks for supporting me!
     
  22. Bartlett

    Bartlett The Prophet

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    Hmm so have you come to a conclusion on which laptop you are going to purchase?
     
  23. GamingACU

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    I guessed that after you said they recommended Dell and Gateway. Two crapshoots for computers. I've owned both, and they're both overpriced and have faulty hardware. My Sager is the most stable/powerful thing I've ever owned (desktop or notebook).