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    Weight of Sager NP5792 ? And what problems ?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Prasad, Feb 14, 2008.

  1. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    I've heard the sager np5792 is very loud! Besides that, does it have any specific commonly known problems ?
    Also, what is it's weight ?
     
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    Weight -> XoticPC's 5793's page. It's more than 3.5KG. That I believe without the power brick.
    Try carrying two 2L bottles of water with you and you'll see how it feels like.
     
  3. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Alright that's fine. And is the loudness bearable ? Any other well known issues ?
     
  4. allbald

    allbald Notebook Evangelist

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    If you look at Chaz's review he says the fans are quite loud. Although I believe there is a firmware fix to better control fan speeds.
     
  5. Heathkidd

    Heathkidd M860TU

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    Its loud by modern laptop standards ... so i assume its not very loud at all.. people are used to almost quite laptops now.


    im getting a NP5792 also btw...

    is it true the only diference between the NP5792 motherboard and the NP5793 mobo is that the newer one has a flashed bios to suport the extream processor...

    can a NP5792 be turned into a NP5793 via a bios update and a processor update?

    would like to get a extream processor in 2years or so
     
  6. allbald

    allbald Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi Prasad,


    This is directly from Chaz's review:

    That brings me to the complaints I have about the cooling system. While I said it functioned well - which it does, the notebook has no problems keeping cool - it has a lot of room for improvement in the acoustics area. The cooling system can be described with one word - loud. The NP5793 has one of the loudest cooling systems I have heard on a notebook. At low speed/idle, the noise level is audible but acceptable. However, once an application is started that uses the processor and/or graphics card, the noise level increases substantially, and the machine can be heard across a decent-sized room.

    Hope that helps.
     
  7. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Thanks! I've always been with desktops that I've built... really cheap ones with crappy cooling systems. And it's always loud. If as Heathkidd said that people find it loud since they're used to quiet laptops, then that's fine because I've never had a laptop and always been around loud desktops. So I guess it should be okay. :)
     
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    Heathkidd the 5793 has a different case and it's what you get when you order it with a 8800M GTX. A 5792 will never be able to become a 5793 without hardware modifications, but the difference is not that big. Make sure you get the 5793.
     
  9. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    So you're saying I should wait till the ACTUAL 5793 releases ? How long will that be ? Either way, I'm not ordering a laptop anytime before 20th of next month. Will it release by then ?
     
  10. Justin@XoticPC

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    The official 5793 release will be done when the X9000 Processor is released. At the present time, as long as you order the 8800, you will get the "5793". (Casing and cooling).
     
  11. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Any idea when the processor would release then? Any estimate ?
     
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    It doesn't matter as you'll get it anyway.
     
  13. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    We haven't received final confirmation from Intel yet, but anticipate we should know something soon. :)
     
  14. Mecha

    Mecha Notebook Geek

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    my 5792 was quite
    and my 5793 is quite
    people just like to complain about something
    myself included

    i use a backpack to carry it
     
  15. Heathkidd

    Heathkidd M860TU

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    would that be all sager resellers? i live in australia see

    trying to work out if this

    http://www.pioneercomputers.com.au/products/configure.asp?c1=3&c2=15&id=2249

    will be a 5793 mobo + case and cooling.. im ordering a 8800M GTX with it.. does that require the casing a cooling? and if it gets casing and cooling will it get the 5793 mobo that can have a 2.8 45 in it etc

    kind of wana get a 2.8 X off ebay in a year or so
     
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    The 5793 is the Clevo M571RU-U. So you should all ask for the Clevo's equivalent. Ask if they use that barebone or not.
     
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    Heathkidd M860TU

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    M571RU-U is silver

    M570RU-U is orange right?
     
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    Yes, my mistake. Anyway, get the M57xRU-U. Whatever it pleases you (silver or orange).
     
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    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Okay I guess if nothing comes up by 20th of next month, I'll buy the NP5792 with the 5793 casing from XoticPC on that day or so. :)
     
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    Besides some price cuts (which I tend to believe that woun't happen) and the M17x, I believe that nothing that is addressed to gamers will be released
     
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    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Out of curiousity, would the M17x be more or less expensive than the M15x ?
    probably a dumb question....
     
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    I don't know, I guess it will be more expensive, but who knows. Anyway, it will cost more than the 5793 for sure.
    Don't compare the M15x to the 5793, as they're different. If you want a 15" pick the Alienware, if you want a 17" pick the Sager (which also has better CPUs, the Penryns). But if you need more than one HDD or need SLI wait for the M17x. Your choice.
     
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    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Either way, I can't afford AW. Just too crazy expensive! And now it's increased even more, and considering I can only have them deliver from the UK site for 207 Euros renders AW out of question, and a "non-option" for me (If that's supposed to sound right :p).
     
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    If you live outside Europe and don't have VAT where you live you woun't pay it, so...
     
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    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    ... so screw AW! Sorry for that, but tis' a good thing to vent out your feelings! And I have to say this again (to myself), for the millionth time... I'm sticking with Sager :) And me happy :D
     
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    Good for you! :)
     
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    Mecha , you seem to have the perfect Sager 579x. Good for you.
    Whatever.
    I`ll weigh the laptop tomorrow and tell you exactly how much it has, with/without the powerbrick.
     
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    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    its like 8 pounds with power brick
     
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    No, more like 9.5 lbs.
     
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    I`ll weigh it tomorrow and give you EXACT figures,although any sager 579x user could easily do this.I`m guessing 8.5-9 pounds,as an initial estimate.
     
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    8.5 without the brick, more like 9.5 with it. NotebookCheck said that the weight is 4.12 KG, 9.1 pounds, but I don't know, it seems too heavy. Sager says something about 8.5 lbs.
     
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    I don`t care what notebookcheck said, I have one and should know better than anyone just throwing guesses around. Unless the 8800M GTX is 1 pound heavier than the 7950GTX, which I DOUBT, 4.12 kg sounds like a load of...
     
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    It's at least 8.4 lbs (3.8KG) without the brick, according to XoticPC.
     
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    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Thanks guys! Now for a careful average responsible user like me, would the sager last a good 4 years (not gaming), but simply survive that long without dying ?
     
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    It will survive if you take care of it (not like taking care of a baby, but make sure you don't throw it, don't drop it or don't use it as a paper weight), but for the gaming part I can't really answer. Nobody knows what's going to happen tomorrow, not talking about 4 years from now. It will last 2 year without a problem, after 4 years you will still be able to play games on it, but not on high (I'd say medium, or medium -> low after 3 years or so).
     
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    Allright, the laptop is about 3.5 Kg without the power brick and about 4-4.05 with the power brick. It`s not heavy for me , but might be an issue for some people.
    3.5kg=7.7 pounds(if my 0.45kg=1 pound math is correct) and therefore the powerbrick is just a little over a pound.
    Total = some 8.7-8.8 pounds.
    Video of the fans will show up later on, as soon as I find my camera.
    PS: 1000th POST :D
     
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    It's 8.3 lbs without the brick according to XoticPC. How can yours be so light?
     
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    I don`t know, but that`s what the scale says. And my HP nx9420 is 3.1 Kg. So that makes my measurements pretty much ok.
    Now, I could be off, but not with more than 1 pound TOTAL.
     
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    Novatech says 3.95KG with the battery.
    They have a sale on the more expensive T7700 model, for around 1250UK (around 1700E). Take it if you can, it's a great deal!
     
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    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    So basically it's around 4KG. That's perfectly fine. I have to go back to one of my old questions, which I'm confused about again.
    Matte or glossy screen ?.. price isn't a concern there. But for gamers, what's the better choice ? I also didn't clearly understand the difference other than "more vibrant colours with the glossy screen" which doesn't really clear up anything.
     
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    Dude,I`m uploading a movie about fan noise and the end is all about the screen. WUXGA glossy. Wait until it`s uploaded and see for yourself how the screen is.
     
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    Glossy screens are best for movies and games, because the colors look more lively so to speak. Matte screens are best for outdoors situations.
     
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    FACT: no matte screen is as bright as a glossy,unless it`s either expensive or some notorious brand. Glossy are vivid,bright,vibrant and super clear.
     
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    Okay that confirms it... glossy then!
     
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    i wish they had 1920x1200 matte.. i use a 24inch dell thats matte.. hate glossy scrn horrible for a workplace with strong lights/etc...

    i assume its just a glossy as glossy macbookpros?
     
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    As stated,just wait until I finish uploading that movie.
     
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    I'm looking forward to seeing it :)
     
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    If you recieve the 5793 with the fan firmware upgrade, the Fn+1 setting runs the computer at a low fan RPM and still keeps the laptop fairly quiet, unless you're in a library or something, then nothing is quiet. :)
     
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