What 1866 memory is Sager shipping now?

Hmm, 1866 memory option..

Wonder what brand they are shipping with?

Any idea, resellers?

 

Sager has announced the offering of the Kingston HyperX 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1866 HyperX Plug n Play memory in the 8130, 8150 and the 8170 models.
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Any pricing if you purchase them separately from Sager?

 

Do you mean if you purchase the RAM separately from Sager?

I was looking at this earlier today. Upgrading my iMac at home and stumbled upon it.

Newegg.com - Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1866 HyperX Plug n Play Laptop Memory Model KHX1866C11S3P1K2/8G

 

Yeah, Amazon has it for the same price, if I buy it I would go with amazon because of amazon prime..

But I wanted to check because I can get dealer prices for parts for being a customer at LPC-digital, which is really handy for upgrading stuff.

 

Yes Newegg most likely cannot be beat as to prices. That link is the one...
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I see I see. Good researching!

I just got my Amazon Prime last week also. Pretty cool program from them. I got the 1 month free and found out today that with a .edu email I can get 6 months free So that was kinda cool. But I would go with Newegg regardless, especially if price is the same.

 

couple of days ago it was at 85 dollars, too bad it was out of stock by the time I wanted to order.

 

It was that low? The price now is still good, better than most can offer.
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You sure it wasn't the 1600 one?

I've never seen the 1866 go below this price.

 

that 1866 pnp has been well selected from thousands of memorys
but if u think your mem's oc potential is good, u can try spdtool flash to pnp 1866 one

 

Is the 1866 RAM even supported by the i7 Sandy Bridge chips? I remember seeing i5s don't even support 1600MHz. Is 1866 even worth the extra cost vs 1333 or vs 1600?

 

It actually is worth it, hard to believe with past history showing so many memory upgrades don't make a real diff, but this does.
Mythlogic posted some benches sometime back

 

Time to quote myself...LOL

 

It only makes a difference of 1-2% over the 1600Mhz RAM, which is itself only 2-3% over the 1333Mhz RAM. It's a difference, but not significant to be sure

 

Any word on when 2133 MHz RAM is going to be released? I only want to jump from 1333 Mhz if it's significant enough...

 

No word yet. However, as was pointed out the increase in performance may be nil.
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Is it theoretical? or are there benchmarks?

Because the HyperX modules have tighter timings compared to the standard RAMs we have, the gains will be far more than just 1~2%? No?..

Are the 1~2% gains already incorporating the tighter timings we get from using HyperX modules?

 

Sigh...I guess whichever comes first, an XMP option for the BIOS of the NP5165, or a 2133Mhz release. I got a 1600Mhz XMP HyperX, which downclocked to 1333Mhz because of lack of BIOS option :/

 

Going from the stand point = have to get ram so get what ever works best for budget + performance.
Then what would make the biggest difference 1333/1600mhz lower CL~9 or higher 1866 at CL11/CL12.
This CL ratio's used to be a major factor years ago or buying 2133mhz when available and forcing it to run at 1600mhz with CL7/8 to be synced with the cpu / bus speeds for best ratio's.

Nice kingston page for quick prices and availability check.

Kingston Technology Company - Kingston Memory Search - Search Results:

 

It was based on benchmarks and posted in another thread:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/599853-question-resellers-ram-specs.html

It really only amounts to ~2% difference in benchmarks/gaming, so it's minimal.

 

it's 2-3% PER STEP.

So if you go from 1333 that many users have, to 1866, that's two steps and more like a 5% performance gain. Gain measured as actual improvement in framerate.

Is that insignificant?

Look at the cost people pay to get 10% greater performance by going with the latest GPU instead of last years.

When judged in these terms, the memory speed upgrade is actually quite cost effective. And far more so for gaming than the cost of upgrading the CPU.
At least it was when I checked the prices of a popular reseller on here, the cost difference was not large.
5% real world performance gain for such a tiny cost difference? Sign me up!

I haven't seen evidence that the 2133 stuff works and never see it for purchase around anyway

 

What I'm worried about are the temps.

As RAM is passively cooled, the modules under the keyboard which have NO airflow should run quite hot and influence the stability, no?..

I would love to get some HyperX modules, but I am just worried as the modules under the keyboard might not be able to support the heat from tighter timings and larger bandwidth.

 

Yea, what are the temps of the 1866 RAM or at least an increase caused by RAM on the mobo? Also, when I was looking up building a desktop, I noticed many mobos need to overclock the RAM to reach frequencies like 1600 or 1866 MHz. Does the mobo chipset (in the P151HM1) and the Core i7s even support 1866 RAM without requiring being OCed.

 

Yea the new 6 series chipsets, and the Plug-n-Play ram (Doesn't need a XMP profile) it just adjusts, no OC'ing required.

 

Hi myth, i missed you!

When you tested the RAM, how warm did the RAM get?

 

We didn't make specific logs of the RAM, but didn't get hot enough that we noticed anything out of ordinary on it, that would be the ones underneeth the keyboard, made that part of the keyboard a little warm but thats about it.

 

Hi, I have those RAM (MALIBAL gave them for free when they sent me the wrong RAM!). On 3D Mark tests GPU is on average the same compared to 1600MHz Samsung RAM. BUT on CPU tests consistently higher in every single test.

 

Just wanted to let you guys know, that the CL11 Hyper X run Memtest 86+ "ROCK STABLE" at CL10-10-10-31 @1886Mhz

BTW if you use more than two RAM sticks the P170HMx bios automaticaly lowers the Comand Rate from 1T to 2T.

 

So are you running the 16GB set of these?
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Yes! I don't use it for gaming though...It's suppose to become my new home workhorse once I get this GPU temps under control.