What Quads Can It Use

so ive had my 9262 for a couple of months and im loving it. i upgraded the HD by adding a 320GB one and now im thinking of upgrading the RAM and CPU and i have a couple of questions

1. im thiking of adding another 2 HD's most likly 320Gb and i would be replacing my 120GB which contains my OS and i was wondering is it possible to reinstall the OS but onto another HD?

2. what Quad Core processors can the NP9262 use.

3. would i need to buy anything else to get it to work in laptop

 

1. You mean making an image of the previous HDD..?? Or to do a clean install....you just need the same OS Disc, and the serial key from the COA sticker to do the installation.

2. I guess it has the P965 chipset..?? (can confirm though CPU-Z). Check out the optional CPUs for the NP9262 from xoticpc, etc (Q6600, Q6700, Q9450, Q9550, Q9650 should be supported by the BIOS, rest you can confirm from the manufacturer/NBR Sager Notebook Retailers, or through the release notes of the BIOS updates, if any.)

3. Not really, or maybe if there is a different heat-sink used for the Quads, then yes. Rest the BIOS should provide support for it.

 

1) You can just install another OS on your new hard drive without problem

2) not sure where you can buy quad core mobile CPUs

3) not sure if you need to buy anything else... Maybe a 24 inch LCD external screen?

 

thanx for the help.

and i mean clean install or upgrade if im unable to do clean install (i have upgrade copy of vista)

@ youdontneedtoknow

the NP9262 can use desktop quad core processors

@ andy thanx for the tip i will have a look at there site.

 

Read before you post.....
Eurocom also offers the Q9300 which is what I am looking into, if I can get my hands on the bios from eurocom.

 

as i dont have my laptop with me i cant check whats the most likly BIOS i will have? i havent done anything to the BIOS since i got the laptop for RAMBO.

im looking for something about 2.44 x 4 or maybe a 2.66 x 4 what would that be?

 

2.44ghz would be a q6600. The q9300 is 2.5ghz for 2.6ghz you have the q6700 q9400 and q9450.

The q9300 is the middle of the road, thats why I'm looking into buying it. I'm fairly sure we will at least need a bios update to use the penryn models, but the q6600 and q6700 should work fine without it.

 

Stick with the Q6600/Q6700 - Good, Cheap, and Supported.

 

right thanx for the help. im either getting a new phone (mines 3 years old) or upgrading my laptop. when i do upgrade i might go for the Q6700

 

Remember, this notebook (D901C) is using desktop LGA775 CPU socket.

(65nm) Q6600, Q6700
(45nm) Q9300, Q9450, Q9550, Q9650

And the unofficial Clevo support of the Xeon quad-cores:
X3360, X3370


"Bang for the buck" = Q6600 (can by bought for under $200 USD)

 

whats the difference bewteen 65nm and 45nm?
i saw a couple of Q6600 on ebay going for about £130 and i didn t see any Q6700 so i might just go for the Q6600 instead

a quick question i have Football Manager 2008 and its a CPU hog it freezes about once an hour ussally when loads of scores are being created will upgrading to the Q6600 help with that and make it faster, coz its quite slow at the moment which is annoying becuase i love the game

thanx

 

45 nm are cooler. The q6600 is the best performance/price ratio, I think. And it can be overclocked at 3.0 GHz.

How much wil it be the total cost your laptop + upgrades?

PL

 

45nm packs about double the number of transistors into the same silicon space, as compared to the 65nm technology, and is said to be more energy-efficient.
Not really sure if FM 2008 will be able to utilize all 4 cores. (Only know of Supreme Commander to be able to do that) If that is the case, you won't see much of an improvement.

 

It is true that he won't get improvement in game, but he might have also other stuff running while gaming. I do not use all 4 cores all the time but when I do run lots of programs I am happy that I have a quad.

PL

 

I meant the game won't see much of an improvement.
You're right, programs able to utilize four cores will run quicker, but to be able to experience good multi-tasking, you need a good amount of RAM as well (about 4GB).

 

Most of the current games will not show much of a difference, but new games in development are multi-threaded to take advantage of as many cores are you have.

Quad-cores definitely make a difference in media work (2D/3D, Audio, Video, mixing, editing, converting, etc..).

 

The games you are talking about are? I haven't heard of a single game coming out that supports quad core.

 

I think you are a bit confused.

Its not the game supporting quad-cores that is important, its the coding and optimization of the game's engine and coding being "multi-threaded" is what will be the key to support multi-cores.... not just quad-cores.

for example, Unreal Tournament 3 (which is fully multithreaded) can use up to 64 simultaneous threads to use. (thats 64-cores)

If you actually play a multi-threaded game (or use a multi-threaded program), you will notice that your CPU is used 100% on all cores (either it be dual core or quad-core).

Most current games barely tap any core more than 70% ... especially the infamous poorly coded Crysis.

Unreal Engine 3 games (new Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway, Gears of War 2, etc..) that are being developed and tested at this time will take advantage of as many cores as you got to help with physics calculations, rendering, etc..

You will never see a game say "supports quad-core"... because thats bad marketing and inaccurate.
.. because all games can already do that (but that does not mean that they are optimized for it)

You will see games usually say that they have a "recommended" requirements.

Well one might ask:
"How do you know if a game is multi-threaded or not?"
- though its not advertised (because that question would go over most people's heads), developers will usually give that information out during reviews or datasheets... or you can ask them.
- or you can run a program to monitor you multi-core CPU's load during a game (RivaTuner can actually do this if you enable the CPU plugin), if all cores are running at 100% load, then the game is multi-threaded.

Due to some NDA's I cannot give any specific information on the current games that I am testing or apart of.

But you can be sure that multi-threaded gaming is around the corner... time to bust out the octo-cores

 

Octo-cores? That's so...yesterday! Why not go with a hexadeca-core CPU? That'd be (inter alia) the Sun Rock:


which debuted in May of 2007.

 

16-core processor.

that's 4 quad cores, or 8 duo cores!

 

just make sure the quad core is of the 95w TDP flavor and you will be golden. you also might need a bios update.

 

But where can we get that bios update without haggling with resellers for it?

 

maybe the best way would be to ask for it in these forums. a member can email the bios.

 

ok, argh can you email me the latest bios?

 

i don't have the bios as a file and do not know how to extract it

i believe if your d901c was the very first versions you will need a bios but you purchased one new after the quads were offered you should not need it as long as you are running the 95w quads.

 

bwhxeon, which version do you have currently?

 

Everest reports my bios version as 6.00. Not sure if thats right or not, is there another way to check which bios version I have?

 

thats not a correct version.

turn on the system (disable any splash screens), then press Pause when you see the BIOS version showed up

 

Just booted it up with diagnose on, bios version is 1.00.17a

 

I think thats the latest version.

 

I think you have the same version as me and it supports q9450 and q9550. I am not sure about the Xeons and q9650.


PL

 

Can you do a quick restart and confirm that? I might be buying a penryn cpu in the next day or two if its compatible.

 

Hello,

I have .17 version of the BIOS. It supports the q9450 with 4 GB of RAM and from what I remember it supports at least the q9550.

PL