What are the other four?

Sager's website claims six new "reasons" to be introduced on the 15th, but I only can think of two: M860TU and M570TU...what are the other four? Any information? Thank you.

 

m860tu, m570tu, the updated 2092 with montevina, and maybe some acers or other clevo models?

 

does "new reasons" means "new models" to you?

 

ddr3 memory, integrated wireless n, core 2 duo, 9800m, 8800m in 15.4in, improved battery life? those are the 6 i could think of...

 

every companies will be offering DDR3, new wifi, new cpu; so they don't count.

 

I am hoping the other 4 will be new models. There has been and continues to be a lot of movement with sleeker designs by many of the name brands and I am thinking the good folks at Clevo are getting ready to roll out some pretty awesome new models.

 

you guys forgot M761JU and TN71M

 

It is 4 new models in addition to the NP5796 and the NP8660.

They will replace 4 of the existing models, for a total of 6 new reasons to buy Sager

 

Hmmm, I dont know whether or not Donald is joking or not. I am intrigued.

 

No joke...the announcement on their home page says:
"On July 15, Sager gives you six new reasons to choose the biggest name in small computers. Stay tuned for more details on our new models."

That's it...six new models.

 

If you pay attention to the Clevo Guide, I covered some of them.

AMD Puma notebooks and Intel Montevina notebooks.

Although there was scheduled about 9 Clevo models for Q2 2008.
(but it seems that Sager and most other vendors will only want 4-6 models... half of which are refresh models)

 

Awesome. SO, what are the other two models then (four are in the Clevo guide). I had heard a lot about the m570tu and the m860tu but nothing about the other two. What will you retailers plan on carrying? All six of those models, or a mix and match of them?

 

Actually, none of the other 4 are in the Guide. We will have to wait for next Tuesday to see them.

 

Alright, patience is not my best quality. Do you personally plan on carrying them all, or are you going to make that decision when they release to the public?

 

We will carry them all.

 

Ok its a bit more than I previous remembered.

I can just tell you the types of notebooks:

Clevo Q2 2008 scheduled notebooks:
* 12" Intel Montevina (Penryn) + Cantiga, Intel's GMA X4500
- 13.3" Intel Montevina (Penryn) + Cantiga, Intel's GMA X4500
* 14.1" Intel Montevina (Penryn) + Cantiga, Intel's GMA X4500
* 14.1" Intel Penryn + SiS chipset/IGP
- 14.1" AMD Puma (Griffin / Lion Core) + AMD/ATI RS780M, Radeon 3200 IGP
* 15.4" Intel Penryn + SiS chipset/IGP
* 15.4" Intel Penryn + SiS chipset, Nvidia 9300 GS (NB9M-GS)
* 15.4" Intel Montevina (Penryn) + Cantiga, Intel's GMA X4500
- 15.4" Intel Montevina (Penryn) + Cantiga PM, Nvidia 8800M GTX (MXM-IV)
- 15.4" AMD Puma (Griffin / Lion Core) + AMD/ATI RS780M, Radeon 3200 IGP
* 17" Intel Montevina (Penryn) + Cantiga PM, Nvidia 8800M GTX & possible AMD/ATI 3870 (MXM-IV)

* refresh models (mostly with new platform, HDMI, e-SATA, etc..)

You can guess the model numbers yourself.

I might even list this in the Clevo Guide update.... maybe.

 

Well, you are correct in that Sager will not be importing all of those...actually they will be bringing in 5 of them...and we will carry all 5 plus the Compal refresh of the NP2092.

One other clue is there will be no SiS or AMD chipsets.

 

There you have it folks.

The best clues to figure out the new Sager line up.....

Too bad Sager is not going to get the new AMD systems (for now anyway), the AMD Puma is looking to be a nice platform with the best IGP around (even beats 8400M GS), not to mention its going to have nice price tags.
.... read the latest NBR review on the HP dv5z.

 

I´ll soon receive a 15.4" Intel Montevina (Penryn) + Cantiga, Intel's GMA X4500 OR NV 9300M GS.

 

I see only one 17incher... was hoping for a refresh of the 9262.

 

NO, it´s just M570TU.

 

To dream the impossible dream. ahhhhh, now there's the rub.

 

Currently, the only reason to refresh the NP9262 would be to add in support for DDR3. Most likely, Clevo is simply waiting until they have more of a reason than that. Outside of memory clocks, the NP9262 still stands above the NP5796 as the performance king.

 

No need for a refresh really.

Its still remains king of notebooks with full support for 65nm and 45nm Quad-cores... which mobile platforms still cannot match.

 

Any chance nvidia will release the 9800 GTX for the np5796 soonish? Or is that a ways off still?

 

thats up to Nvidia.

although we should be seeing the 9800M come around Q3 2008.

 

How about mobile GTX280?

 

I think some persons already discussed this. It seems that the power requirement is far too high to work in mobile. It would have to be seriously stinted first.

Just a quick note though, My friend found an article about a new battery that has been invented for laptops. Its slightly radioactive, but does not need to be charged and lasts for 30 years! that would be sweet!
That seems a bit unreasonable though so im going to enquire more. Perhaps some of you know about this already?

supposedly it whould start to go in circulation within 3 years.

 

you know things like those will not shows up within half century, even though we capable to made them. (talking about the battery)

 

yeah, where is the profit in that type of battery. I can see it being in use for maybe the military and such. I bet energizer would happily pay off the military to keep this technology under wraps.
here is an article explaning this battery.
http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-betavoltaic-10.1.html

 

The battery is an interesting idea, and it's good that the article-writer brought it to greater public awareness; however, the article itself is rather lacking in good science (not that the battery is; just the author's characterization of the science underlying the battery's performance). Basically, neutron decay is a nucleic atomic reaction, and thus these batteries are "nuclear" inasmuch as they derive their energy from radioactive decay - it is, of course, true that this process does not involve nuclear fission or fusion - the splitting of one nucleus or the joining together of two nuclei. For a little more excitement in your day rolleyes: ), here's the Wikipedia article on Beta Decay.

However, I'm not sure how likely this battery is to be released to the general public based on the statement that the battery produces tritium as a by-product of the internal power generation process. It's entirely possible that the amount of tritium produced is negligible, and tritium itself has a fairly short half-life of around 12 years (i.e., in 12 years 1/2 of a given mass of tritium will have decayed); nonetheless, since only about 4 grams of the stuff is needed to boost the yield of a nuclear fission bomb, or, alternatively, reduce the amount of fissile material needed to still get a bang yielding a given number of kilotons or megatons, I would think it highly unlikely that the military (or Congress - although I have my doubts there) would permit the uncontrolled production and public distribution of a device that generates tritium. For a better discussion, see this Wikipedia article on tritium.

 

According to Wikipedia it doesn't produce Tritium, it is made from Tritium. It is beta decay from the tritium atoms that produces the energy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betavoltaics

Hence there is high danger during manufacture and when it runs out the battery is dead.

 

There are probably several serious human rights violations in requiring workers to work with such a hazardous material. It would be lovely if we could get a 12-24-year battery, but I'd rather not have to think of the fact that "Many workers died to bring you this power," if you know what I mean.

 

Not really.

"The low-energy beta radiation from tritium cannot penetrate human skin, so tritium is only dangerous if inhaled or ingested."

You can get devices containing Tritium already. Any of those self-illuminating key-chains or watch-faces etc.




For some reason I'm having a problem getting around whether this would be a constant voltage or constant current source although I'm starting to think it might not actually come under either. If something is always outputting the same energy (Electronvolts, Watts) then surely both the voltage and current will change depending on load, no? I know I'm mixing up energy and power here but as it's a process that is constantly active I would of thought this translates into power, after watt-hours is a measure of energy again. My electronic principles is feeling a little rusty right now!

 

That just makes it even worse - no need to wait around until the battery runs down, just walk down to your local betavoltaic battery store and pick up a six-pack of tritium; next stop, your local North Korean U235/Pu239 supplier!

 

although no complete overhaul, there are a few more options for the 9262

-in place of the 8800m gtx, the standard is now the 9800m gt, also available in SLI

-now with up to 3x 320gb 7200rpm, with 500gb drives coming 'soon' whenver that is (hopefully within a week... i have to purchase in a few days)

i guess thats it... I remember it being more of a list but i think thats that

anyone else have any updates? I'm purchasing with a deadline of in my hands august 1st...

 

@Satch:

There's also the introduction of the OCZ Core Series SSDs, which allow for up to 3 high-performance 128 GB, SATA II SSDs. We've taken flack several times in the past for not offering those $1,000+ SSDs. We're happy to have a high-performing option available now at a much more affordable price. Naturally, traditional HDDs are still going to give you the best $/GB ratio, but having SSDs available for around $3.50/GB is still a tremendous improvement over $14-$18+/GB.

 

Is that so you can give it me on my birthday?