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    What components improve render speeds in Premiere pro?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by ObserverJLin, Jun 2, 2012.

  1. ObserverJLin

    ObserverJLin Notebook Evangelist

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    Hello.
    When I render a HD 1920x180 H.264 video it takes hours for a 10min clip on my Intel Core 2 Duo T9550 @ 2.66GHz CPU laptop.
    I'm thinking of getting a new powerful laptop, preferably the Clevo P170EM. Can you please give me some advise on what components in the computer make a big difference in render speeds?
     
  2. Mr_Mysterious

    Mr_Mysterious Like...duuuuuude

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    Such a task is almost completely dependent on the processor. Even the base i7 is a HUGE jump over your T9550. An i7 3720QM should be more than enough for you :)

    Mr. Mysterious
     
  3. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    Yep i totally agree. Even a first gen i5 or i7 would lead to almost 130% boost in rendering compared to the old T9550.
     
  4. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Any of the modern quad cores from Intel and even the multi core AMD Bulldozers should work well with heavily threaded video encoding.
    But since we are talking about notebooks i recommend Intel since their Quads are the best atm.
     
  5. ObserverJLin

    ObserverJLin Notebook Evangelist

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    What about GPU's? Do they make any difference in render speeds/time?
    For example I hear Nvidia's CUDA cores work well with Premiere pro but I'm not sure if they meant render speeds. Also I'm looking at getting the 7970M so I hope that can contribute to faster renders. I would prefer 680M but I hear it is going to be so much more expensive than 7970m. So I don't think it'll be worth it.

    Bottom line question. A laptop with i7 3610QM + 7970m vs i7 3610QM + 680m. Who is going to render a 10min High Definition H.264 video quicker and by how much?
     
  6. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    first question to answer in that scenario is if premiere actually supports amd gpgpu? i wouldnt know cuz i barely ever do much rendering or encoding :)

    Sent from my GT-I9001 using Tapatalk 2
     
  7. Patrck_744

    Patrck_744 Burgers!

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    Adobe added support on AMD GPUs starting with CS6
     
  8. spectroplasm

    spectroplasm Notebook Consultant

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    just so you get a better feel of the performance gains of an i series cpu please check my thread that has benchmarks and videos of the P170EM laptop here youtube video demonstrating adobe After Effects render job here

    I do a lot of editing on the go with my canon 5D markII and a lot of modeling too for clients all in HD 1080p, frankly a jump from a core 2 to an i-series is so big you wouldn't believe it. :)
     
  9. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    The 3720QM should give you the optimal power, but faster RAM should do the trick too.

    Also, buying a SSD will improve the opening of Premiere Pro by quite a margin ;)
     
  10. ObserverJLin

    ObserverJLin Notebook Evangelist

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    i7 3720QM is over my buget.

    The spec I can manage are as follows.
    -i7-3610QM
    -16GB SAMSUNG 1333MHz SODIMM DDR3 MEMORY (4 x 4GB)
    -AMD Radeon® HD 7970M
    -120GB KINGSTON HYPERX 3K SSD (OS & programs)
    -500GB WD SCORPIO BLACK (Data drive)
    -8x SATA DVD±R/RW/Dual Layer (+ 24x CD-RW)
    -ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
    -Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit

    Nvidia's website says this "Mercury Playback Engine" in Adobe Pr CS6 works optimally with their cards. I have no idea what this is. Can you tell me whether this has anything to do with render speeds? http://www.nvidia.com/object/adobe-cs6.html
    If not then f it I am going with 7970m.

    www.PCSpecialist.co.uk are charging the 7970m £102 more than 675m. Is this a reasonable price?
     
  11. Tyranids

    Tyranids Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes. It's about a $200 upgrade in the US. Last time I checked the pound was about 1.9something dollars, yes? If it's around that, then you have nearly the same cost to upgrade.

    EDIT: I'm sorry I misread that. It's a $200 in the US to go from the 670M to the 7970M. Charching 105 pounds to go from the 675M to the 7970M is about double what it is in the US. I believe AMD's card performs about 40-50% better though, so if that's worth it to you, then by all means go for it.
     
  12. jaug1337

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    I would suggest 8GB of RAM with a 1600MHz speed. 16GB is not needed and it will not improve render speed.

    Second, you would be better off not purchasing a second drive at the reseller as they charge for quite a bit. Go to the local store and buy there.

    And the last bit of advice I'm offering is maybe going with a slightly "less" faster SSD and trying to get that 3720QM really, it's going to make quite a difference from the 3610QM, but if you consider your choices perfect I'm not to stop you :)

    have fun with your new toy :D
     
  13. ObserverJLin

    ObserverJLin Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks mate for your advise. When the saleman heard I do alot of render he recommended 16gb of 1333mhz. He said it'll be same speed as 1600mhz and is more reliable. And 120GB Kingston HyperX 3K is the cheapest they offer. The next is 120GB Intel 520 which is more expensive. As for your recommendation on 3720qm. How much faster in average would you think it'll render my vids compared to 3610qm?

    Thx again for your consideration.
     
  14. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    Not much.. but the larger the video the faster the render and at some point several seconds, IF not minutes will show the difference between these two.

    But given your current limitation with money I would probably stick onto the 3610QM sorry for derailing you :p

    also this:
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    but the 3720QM is without doubt the best bang for the buck performance CPU as far as I know :)

    all the luck ObserverJLin!

    edit: as you can see: http://processors.findthebest.com/compare/818-821/Intel-i7-3610QM-vs-Intel-i7-3720QM there isn't much difference between them :) so just go with the 3610QM if you feel like it
     
  15. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    just to add to your first post it might be worth trying cyberlink power director 10 out to compare it to premiere pro as it has the worlds fastest render for 64bit available.

    ive been rendering a lot lately with my 4 year old m860tu and after a few hiccups it works fine now and is quite fast even with my old spec.

    im also getting a new backlit clevo soon just to speed things up even more.

    trial version > World's Fastest Video Editing Software – PowerDirector 10
     
  16. E.Blar

    E.Blar Notebook Deity

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    How about the jump from a 1.6GHz single-core pentium-D? :p That's what I had before my thinkpad croaked.

    Doubt it, it should be $100.

    3720QM is only the best bang for your buck if you go by intel's pricing, in which it costs the same as the 3610QM. An extra $160 for +300MHz and VT-d is not bang for your buck. I got it because of Mythlogic's very nice pricing, it was only a $45 upgrade from them.
     
  17. burakkuman

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    I thought Adobe CS6 only added support for OpenGL while keeping CUDA.