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    What do I need to buy to use my HDD that came out of my Sager 8130?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by dave1812, Jul 15, 2013.

  1. dave1812

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    I have recently installed an SSD into the Sager and I also have a BD drive that will remain. I'd like to access files from the HDD using a cable and whatnot. at the back of the Sager is an e SATA port. What cables and caddy do I need to use the original internal HDD? USB or e SATA? whatever is fastest if cost is reasonable. I tried looking up e SATA on Amazon but didn't see anything that helps someone like me with little experience. Only externals I've used are USB HDD's which are a no-brainer.

    EDIT: Is this what I need? One item like this? (ie, I have a bare drive that came out of my sager, as noted above) http://www.amazon.com/Uspeed-Extern...F8&qid=1373940227&sr=8-3&keywords=usb+3.0+hdd
     
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    All you need is a 2.5" Hard Drive Enclosure. Being a 2.5" drive you can power it over eSATAap (eSATA Old Spec does not give power) or USB Alone. The Product you linked will work as well but you will most likely need to plug it into a separate power source for that to work.

    USB - Amazon.com : Vantec NexStar TX 2.5-Inch SATA to USB 2.0 External Hard Drive Enclosure : Electronics

    Esata + USB Amazon.com: Acomdata 2.5" Tango USB/eSATA Hard Drive Enclosure Kit, Obsidian Black (TNGXXXUSE-BLK): Electronics


    Edit: Corrected eSATA info

    Note: Look into USB 3.0 Enclosures vs USB 2.0
     
  3. dave1812

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    OK, if I go with the tango, is this the correct cable? Amazon.com: StarTech 3-Feet Shielded External eSATA Cable M/M (ESATA3): Electronics

    oh, and the tango says only for 9.5mm thick HDD's, which is what I have according to my micrometer. a Seagate Momentus 750HDD so I guess its just a matter of sliding it into the case? No adapters? no wiring? no jumpers? just slide in and ready to go?
     
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    ^ Yup thats all you should need. Pop the Drive into the enclosure and plug it in. For Esata you might need to restart initially after you plug it in (if it doesn't work the first time)

    The "Tango" is a SATA Hard Drive Enclosure this tells you that the hardware inside is made to receive a SATA Hard Drive(As opposed to IDE), Your Segate is a SATA drive, SATA 1, 2, and 3 are all backwards compatible so all you need to do is slip it in and plug the Esata into the computer, it should act like an external Hard Drive. You should not need any software at all.(Encloser related) make sure your Esata drivers are installed and updated.


    Back in IDE days you did have to mess with jumpers sometimes depending on what you were doing.

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    With SATA Drives now you just usually have whats pictured below, and they dont come with jumpers any more. The SATA controllers do what the jumpers on IDE did and some settings can usually be changed in the computers BIOS.

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    Side Note: Make sure to keep a backup of important files from your SSD.

    Enjoy :)
     
  5. dave1812

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    ah, thanks for all those clarification points! I remember the days of HDD jumpers! what a pain sometimes.

    you mentioned e sata drivers. where do I get those? or will windows search for them the first time I hook up a drive in one of those enclosures?

    power comes from the esata but you mentioned in earlier post that I MAY need ext power as well??

    EDIT: upon reading user questions on the amazon link to the Tango ( http://www.amazon.com/How-use-eSATA...cd_dp_aar_al_a?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B001XHDQL4 ) I'm wondering if I will have to dedicate a USB port to give additional power to the Tango as people mentioned? If that's the case, could I get the USB power from a powered hub that is connected to the Sager via a USB 3.0 port? The hub I'm considering is http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Powe...=UTF8&qid=1373933153&sr=8-14&keywords=usb+hub
     
  6. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    So long as the devices are using less power than the max output of the hub you are fine. USB3 is enough for a 2.5" drive usually, it's the 3.5" drives that usually need their own powered enclosure.
     
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    Clarification, to my post, #2 the old "eSATA" does not give power, this spec is purely for data, eSATAp is the new powered eSata spec, take a look at the port on your 8130 do you see the USB Logo + Esata like in the Wikipedia page? My 9150 does.

    Sorry No Drivers for Esata, I was mistaking them with the USB 3.0 Drivers.

    Also which I should've mentioned before(my mind is stuck with dealing with old systems :D ) you might be interested in a USB 3.0 Drive Enclosures( with or without eSata). With USB 3.0 you do only need one cable as it is powered up to 900mA. USB 3.0 is about if not faster than esata

    Amazon.com: usb 3.0 2.5 enclosure
     
  8. dave1812

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    here is the port on my 8130. 20130716_134450.jpg

    is that weird graphic in front of "esata" mean it has power?
     
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    Thats a USB sign since its a combo port.
     
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    so do you think it has power too? (ie, because it's a combo port?)
     
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    It can be a bit tricky to find a cable and adapter that supports it though. A USB3 caddy is going to be easier to find.