What kind of raid card is in the sager np9570

Hello guys i am waiting for my new computer to be built "Thanks Hutsady" below are the specs i was wondering if anyone had specs on the on board raid for the SAGER 9570 Also are there any benchmarks out there for 3 X 512gb Crucial M4 in RAID 0 i would like to know what to expect. Second question is when i have my RAID setup on this 1.5 TB RAID 0 should i create a partition for my OS. this may be a silly question but i simply dont know if i have a OS in a partition on this RAID 0 drive will that mes with performance for the OS?

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1 x Sager NP9570 / Clevo P570WM

Display 17.3" Sager FHD 16:9 120Hz "MatteType" 72% NTSC Color Gamut (1920x1080)

Processor Intel® Core™ i7-3930K, 3.2-3.8GHz (32nm, 12MB L3 smart cache - 6 cores / 12 threads)

Graphics Video Card SLi ENABLED DUAL (2) 4096MB PCI-Express nVIDIA GTX 680M's (8192MB Total)

Ram 32GB - DDR3 1600MHz :hi2: (I WILL ADD THIS AT HOME)

Exterior Finish - Skins & Wraps CARBON FIBER WRAP – [Surfaces A,B,C]

Primary Hard Drive 3 x 512GB SSD Crucial M4 SATA 3 6GBs RAID 0 :hi2: (I WILL ADD THIS AT HOME)

Optical Drive Bay Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti DVDRW/CDRW Drive w/ Software

Bigfoot Networks Killer™ Wireless-N 1202 + Bluetooth 4.0 (Dual Band)

XOTIC PC Redline Boost™ Extreme Performance YES - Redline Boost™ Overclock My System (Operating System Required)

 

raid controller card

 

Holy cow, how much did this cost you?

 

my thoughts exactly. crazy build. i could only dream of having a budget that big!

 

To answer your question it is intel's software raid controlled in firmware so is os agnostic.

 

I also keep reading up on the fact that the desktop cpu's for this thing will handle and recognize up to 16gb of 1866mhz mem but i cant find anybody who has done it yet.

 

You should be good up to 4x8GB 1866mhz.

 

i was looking at Xotic pc we page and on the specs page for the NP9570 it said 16 gb1866 max ive seen on the forum here that someone stuck in 16gb of 2133 and i did not notice it. it stayed at 1600 so i guess i wont really know untill i get the mem

 

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To answer the original question, there is no "card"/special chip, its purely software (intel rapid storage) RAID.

But make sure you do regular backups.
With 3x M4 the overall reliability of array will be quite low.

 

When you get yours do a 3dmark 11 bechmark please. Im trying to compare to my own system.

 

I know for a fact reading just the other day, that Eurocom's revision of this has a Hardware raid.. Since they use a custom bios on all their machines it's hard to say if that will be on Sagers etc. But the Eurocom has Hardware raid, Which chip im not sure, Im almost positive it's going to one integrated into the chipset/SB.

 

I pretty much doubt it. Are you saying Intel will produce special version of X59 chipset just for Eurocom?
A lot of vendors claim they have "hardware" raid for Intel Raids just based on fact that "it requires different chipset", while in fact its mostly just softlock by Intel to allow them to sell more expensive "raid-capable chips" while most of the actual difference is just a software/BIOS.

 

You can't create hardware raid in software, that's kind of the point

 

I understand regular back up's I work in a war zone over seas and lets just say the internet access is less than desirable. To the point where you have to turn off automatic updates for windows. I'm purely in search of the speed from the three drives in raid0. On MSI's webpage one one of there gt70's it has two mSATS's in raid0 they call super raid that's the first time I have heard that but they are boasting read and write of up to 800-900 mb/s 1. really believe that can come from TWO mSATA's at 6gb/s but i could be wrong, but I'm curios what three Crucial M4 6gb/s in raid0 will read and write.

 

I will do some bench marks when i get the unit to share, i definitely want to work on the ram speeds.

 

Oh ya! I forgot to mention this ones coming with the Carbon Fiber wrap.

 

The Super RAID MSI uses really is that fast. They use their own special controller for it though. Both mSATA drives go into that then the controller plugs into the motherboard by its own special connection.

 

i saw a 2.5" RAID controller card that you can put 2 x mSATA;s in then you can install that into the 2.5" bay in your computer would that be roughly the same thing

 

No as that bay will only have 1 sata port connection so the max speed is 600MB/s theoretical where as the msi has 2 ports routed to it leading to a theoretical 1200MB/sec max.

 

si i will have to use all three bays in a RAID 0 to theoretically get the speeds im looking for

 

so i will have to use all three bays in a RAID 0 to theoretically get the speeds im looking for

 

That's what i meant to say, they will all have a "Hardware Raid," I'm just not sure if normal Sager/Clevo Bio's have it enabled. Like i said Eurocom uses Custom bio's on all of their laptops, and usually have some special features enabled. For example, The stock Clevo bios Doesn't have a raid option, but the Eurocom E4 Revision features Hardware Raid in my machine. BUT That's a top of the line machine built for performance, if that doesnt have a Hardware raid option, it's a scam.

 

It's not true hardware raid though, it's a soft raid just controlled by intel firmware.

However the vast majority of people don't need hardware raid levels of I/O, that's mostly for server work.

 

Hardware RAID is beneficial for something like RAID 5 ("true" RAID with parity), when all ops require certain computations - these benefit from offloading to dedicated chips.
RAID0/1 don't actually process data in any way, all they do is just direct blocks to appropriate devices - so hardware chip will not improve things much anyway.

 

thank you very much that helps things a bit i have searched all over the place on the net and i cant find anyone who has posted some bench marks for 3 X ssd SATA III in raid 0 all day long every one has done two but not three. i guess i will have to wait until i get mine.

 

Can't find any hardcore evidance of the chip name, but here's a bit more info that will probably lead you to some of the storage features:
Intel® X79 Express Chipset
Intel X79 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

The problem with 3 drives over raid 0 is that the x79 only has 2 6Gb/sec ports so you would be running all 3 drives at SATA II speeds.