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    What's the fastest RAM that the P870DM can take?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Dec 2, 2015.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    Is it 2400 MHz or is there anything faster?

    Also if you can give me a link to where to buy them from online it would be great. I am only interested in 64GB, thus 16GB modules

    PS: Will they work at the rated speed without the Prema BIOS mod or would they default to 2133 MHz if I don't have the Prema BIOS?

    @Mr. Fox
     
  2. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    Mr. Fox had issues booting 2666Mhz even with the Prema bios.

    Right now the safest bet is to use 2400Mhz and then overclock it. Mr Fox was able to get 2666Mhz and 2800Mhz to work through overclocking.
     
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  4. Meaker@Sager

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    2400mhz with improved timings will get you all the performance in applications anyway to be fair.
     
  5. jclausius

    jclausius Notebook Virtuoso

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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    A label with striking design and high thermal resistance? Since when did a sticker become a headline feature? :D
     
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    jclausius Notebook Virtuoso

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    I know, but I'm keeping an open mind. It is possible the sticker is just plastered on some kind of thermal tape or thin heat sink. TBH, I've never heard of Apacer before, so until I see the product for sale it might just be an elaborate hoax.
     
  8. clevo-extreme

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    P870DM for this moment official support 2400mhz without any problems. But we hope when Kingston provide 2666mhz on german market we tested this immediately.


    Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk
     
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    If you took the language as it's written then it means the glue that holds the sticker on wont go bad after the ram goes hot, if it acted as a weird heatsink it would have high thermal conductance, not resistance.

    So basically they are saying, buy our ram, the sticker looks nice and wont fall off......
     
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    Support.1@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    They really do care about that sticker.

    " The astounding graphic design with a color wine aureola slightly emerges from the middle in the darkness, and the metallic NOX altogether shows the most mysterious energy from the night goddess."
     
  11. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    I saw a few videos from Linus Tech Tips on YouTube where he shows that there is not much difference upgrading RAM from one speed to another, juts a few more numbers in synthetic benchmarks but nothing that the typical user or gamer would feel. I don't know if I should waste $500 USD ++ on RAM in this case since I already have 64GB 2133 MHz. RAM
     
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    Yeah, I'd think you are probably good with what you have now. I don't know if you would see much of an improvement, from what I remember us talking about a little while back.
     
  13. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    We all know what the ram looks like is the most important thing. I don't need better timings just the mysterious energy from the night goddess please! Now to put some LED's on my ram!
     
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    16gb module 2133 MHz or 2400 MHz 8gb

    Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk
     
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    Pah, they have nothing on the old kinston hyper-x ram sodimms, full metal heatspreaders on those babies:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Agreed. I'll write it off, but only after it has been released.

    I was focusing here:
    "The well-developed NOX front label helps the system stay within thermal limits during the regular use, and even during those marathon gaming sessions. This allows NOX to provide its highest performance possible under narrow and hot environment within laptop. Therefore, the specially manufactured label greatly increases the memory module efficiency and fluidity."

    This is all marketing "hooey" right now. For example, what does "fluidity" mean in memory? Some kind of throttling? What does "stay within thermal limits" mean? Again, this is a bunch of marketing mumbo-jumbo, but we'll see when (or if) this memory hits the marketplace, afterwards, I'll happily join the parade when it's made it to end-user's hands.
     
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    Basically whoever wrote that article is either technologically illiterate or a troll.

    I would not hold your breath of those sticks and if they came out wait for reviews.
     
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    lol, wow, that is just.....bad marketing! SO bad! :D
     
  19. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Some info about ram. This is for ddr3 but the same applies to ddr4. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/ivy-bridge-ddr3_4.html
    So they can only be recommended for enthusiasts who want maximum speed no matter what ;)
     
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  20. hmscott

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    The g.skill 2666mhz has been available on newegg starting this past week, no 2800mhz yet.

    They have 2133mhz, 2400mhz, 2666mhz, 4GB, 8GB, 16GB, with CAS 15, 16, 18

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007609 50008476 600566557&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=30

    It looks like the 4 x 16GB 2133mhz is already Out of Stock...but the 2400mhz and 2666mhz 4 x 16GB is in stock :)
     
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    Nice catch, i missed those!

    Now that's some good looking ram!
     
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    I know, I had some old 10 66MHz cl5 ram with it so i've been a bit silly and moved the heat spreaders over to my latest Kingston set lol.
     
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    I don't know if the machine would boot plug-and-play with it or not. Someone needs to try it to find out. I'm sure it would work with manual settings, but it needs to be bootable without having to fuss with custom settings to be user friendly. The only way to know is to test it.

    Edit: their timings are pretty loose. Manually overclocking the Kingston Impact 2400 to 2800, I have no issues with 15-15-15-37 or 16-16-16-40, but those are 18-18-18-43. Should be interesting to see how they bench like that. It might not actually be any faster than 2400 or 2666 with tighter timings, in which case you might be better off moneywise and get better performance by manually overclocking the Samsung DDR4 memory you already own. If 2800 doesn't give higher read/write/copy performance and lower latency than overclocked memory, there's not much point in paying extra for it. Paying more to gain nothing is never a good idea.
     
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    With timings like that, I'd agree, it might be worth just staying with the Kingston and overclocking.
     
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    I hope someone can confirm to us it they work on the P870DM-G, after all, they are laptop SODIMMs but who knows.
     
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    Well I assume you have a prema mod bios, if it does not work in that machine then I can't see it really working at all.
     
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    well once I get my 2nd Eurocom system I would but I don't have money to waste anymore to buy them just to test and since I live in Dubai returns are a big hassle.
     
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    If you got yours before the BIOS was released they may give it to you to flash, have you asked them?
     
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    no man I just ordered it yesterday through HIDevolution, they need to build it and I have asked them to install the Prema BIOS and paid for the extra warranty that covers the Prema BIOS. After that is all done, they need to ship it to HIDevolution to do some final touchups in regards to the specs then send it to Dubai.
     
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    Eurocom's reply as to whether this RAM will work in the Sky X9 or not:

     
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    Samsung and Micron are fine. It's fair that they (Eurocom) will not support the G.Skill modules, and since you are in Dubai, it may be best to avoid installing them in that case. As far as compatibility is concerned, those might work, but the 6700(K) is advertised as supporting up to 2133 (DDR4), so it's possible these modules will either operate at reduced performance, or you might encounter instability with them.
     
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