Which OS do you use on your Clevo?

Just thought I'd get an idea of which OS everyone is using on their Clevo high end laptops (P870DM3/2/1/P775DM2/1/P750DDM2/etc.) and why?

I've been debating of either using Windows 10 or Windows 7 on my P870DM3.

DX12 only works on 10 and I already have one game that requires Windows 10 Anniversary.

 

Scientific Linux and Windows 10 (x 4)

 

I'm using Win 10 and Win 7. Win 7 for other benchmarks other than Firestrike and Timespy Win 10 AU is for my daily usage.

 

I should have specified primary OS

 

I wonder who will try to run ESXi or UNRAID (or any baremetal hypervisor) on it lol

 

Windows 7 and 10.

 

Windows 7

 

Windows 10 Pro.

 

Same here. W7 Pro is my go to OS for everything important. W10 Enterprise LTSB (highly modded at the WIM level with tons of cancer cells removed) is my secondary OS, used in cases where I see an advantage in benchmarks... which is not very often.

The only one of the two that I actually like is W7. W10 blows... or sucks... maybe both.

 

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I use Windows 7 Ultimate on it, but did claim my free Windows 10 for my Clevo too

 

Hmmmm I have three drives:

Samsung 950 Pro 512GB NVMe SSD
Samsung 850 Evo 500GB SSD
2TB Seagate HDD

I normally only like running one OS but I'm thinking maybe I'll dual boot..

Windows 7 Pro on 950 Pro
Windows 10 Pro (for DX12 games) on 850 Evo
Storage on 2TB HDD

I'm not sure yet. I'm currently running Windows 10 Pro on my P870DM and it's mostly fine but recently it's been annoying with not shutting down or restarting.

 

I use Windows 10 Pro because Windows 7 sucks with NVMe SSDs (in my experience at least) and has super long boot times of 30+ secs

 

Ah I forgot about that...might just stick with 10 then. A fresh install should maybe solve these issues and especially with the anniversary update. I'm still running the older build lol

 

I format the moment there is a new build. Call it Fresh OS OCD

 

Don't put W7 on NVMe and everything will be awesome.

 

All of the new builds is one of the reasons W10 is such a piece of feces. Micro$loth is so retarded that they cannot even get things right on one build, and they seem to make it continually worse than the previous version. I cannot think of a good reason to give Micro$lop any more chances. They're losers, and so is their latest abortion OS.

 

what surprises me is despite their claims that Windows 10 is the best OS since sliced bread in terms of performance as it makes better use of newer hardware, according to your benchmarks that you showed us, it still falls behind Windows 7 in most categories......

But to me, Windows 7 is not an option and I won't use 8 even if you paid me, rather be spied on and use 10 than 8

But wait, where did Windows 9 go?? ooooooops, Windows 10 ate it

 

That's a funny joke about 9 being gone.

Why is Windows 7 not an option? Because you bought NVMe drives?

I thought Windows 8.X was really crappy, but I think Windows 10 is actually worse because of their filthy Nazi control-freak way of doing things. I may never have anything nice to say about Windows 10. I do not appreciate not being able to have absolute control over every aspect of the OS and that really pisses me off. The way they do things makes me wish for very bad things to happen to Micro$loth (like bankruptcy and actually going out of business). Like all Nazis, they no longer deserve the right to exist. Their untoward behavior has earned them a one-way ticket to extinction.

 

Yes bro, because of NVMe drives. Boot time is 30 secs plus and to me that matters, I want to turn on my laptop and be able to use it within seconds. Even my wife's cheap 3 year old Dell Vostro boots in 8 secs with an SSD. It gets very tiring on 7 especially when I am installing drivers and rebooting after each one and or/ software that needs a reboot. I am very impatient

As for Windows 8, you see, I get a free 1GB storage with my Office 365 subscription so I do use OneDrive. With Windows 8, in order for you to use OneDrive, you MUST be connected with a Micro$h4ft account otherwise you cannot use OneDrive. With Windows 7 and Windows 10, you can use OneDrive independently as if it were a regular app. It's not deeply integrated into the OS as it is Windows 8

Next problem in Windows 8, after I do connect with a Microsoft Account for my login, the login screen hangs on the logging screen showing me my email as the sign in with a spinning circle but never finishes. This doesn't happen before I login with a Microsoft Account. It's just one crippled and buggy OS

 

10 in my personal machine, part of which is needing the experience with it of course.

 

Windows Vista !!!!

 

I actually liked Vista. Vista SP2 ran fine for me and benchmarks were within the same rank as 7.

Although back in the day when it first came out, hardware was definitely not ready for most people.

 

Killer E2400 LAN is not supported in ESXI so all DM/DM3/DM2 models won't work with ESXI.

 

I still do. It's better than W10, that's for damned sure, LOL. I do like W7 better than Vista, but I've never had any problems with Vista Ultimate x64.

 

Vista was easily the worst OS ever for me. I didn't like 8 but even that was better. I has so so many compatibility issues with everything that no other windows seemed to have.

I also still don't understand how you can have a gaming laptop on Windows 7 and just miss DX12. Even if you like 10 less DX12 is a huge difference maker for performance in a bunch of gamers so far, and the list is just growing.

 

I've already done extensive testing and posted the results. W10 does not offer a performance benefit overall. In fact, performance declines in many tests because W8.X and W10 both hinder CPU performance. W10 (and W8.X a close second) are easily the worst versions I have ever used in my entire life. All (as in 100%) of the pre-DX12 games I play run the same under W7 and W10 and I haven't seen any discernible benefit whatsoever to W10. I believe DX12 is mostly a scam to deceive gamers into drinking the W10 Kool-Aid urine. The only exceptions are the games where Micro$haft has forced the use of DX12, again as a Nazi strong-arm approach to forcing adoption. But, even if W10 were a tiny bit better overall, I cannot forgive all of the baggage that comes along with it or accept that as a legitimate trade-off for DX12. The only things I can say work better under W8.X or W10 are the games and benchmarks written specifically for the purpose of making those OSes look good. I don't know that I can give any credit for that being a win, since it was orchestrated for the purpose of coercion.

 

I just realized you actually are running Vista! LOL

How has it been in today's time? I know adobe stopped supporting it on purpose even though the applications run fine when you bypass the checks.

 

Micro$loth support is not required... screw 'em. I've even considered the idea of playing with Windows XP x64 Professional again. I still have a volume license and installation media. I think Alfonso Bedoya said it best...

 

When it got SP2,it became on of The best OSS. It's like a Windows XP with good 64 bit support on steroids

 

Windows XP x64 is not considered to be a real OS and it never got the recognition and support that it deserves

 

I use Windows 10 Enterprise.

 

Oh yeah, forgot that ESXi don't play nice with any non-Intel NICs

 

Your right the performance is degraded. I've never had it matter though. Like I cant think of a game where the performance on 10 was unacceptable while 7 was fine.

Your right about scummy business practices on MSes part but we really dont have much choice... I'm not gonna protest them by staying on 7 when they arent gonna care, and since I use scaling 7 is awful.

That's not to say I don't respect your stance on it I get it.

 

Oh, definitely... I respect your stance as well. I cannot be too judgmental because I do use W10. It would be hypocritical and dishonest for me to pretend otherwise.

I have no problem with using W10 when I realize a benefit from doing so. Fire Strike benchmark scores are an example of that. But, I use W10 on my terms, not theirs. And, honestly, I do derive a reasonable amount of pleasure from breaking the spying crap and enabling features and controls that those losers took away from us. Doing that for spite alone is priceless entertainment, and in the process I help myself by making a horrible product tolerable.

Sad story for Micro$loth is that they failed to provide compelling reasons to make W10 my main OS. They failed with W8, W8.1 and now W10. I don't have a problem using old software that still works phenomenally. I still use lots of old software. I only appreciate newer tech when newer is better tech. Being newer, in and of itself, is worthless and irrelevant to me. As long as I keep using both on the same machine I never grow numb to the filth. I get a daily reminder that W10 is an inferior, albeit newer product.

I'd venture a guess that Windows 10 "performance" impressed many adopters that were running old and dirty versions of W7/8 that were bogged down and corrupted from long term use and buggy Windows Updates. A fresh OS install almost always feels brisk and works better. It only makes sense that their impressions would be positive in that scenario.

 

Windows 10 doesn't work well with Diablo 2. Therefore: Windows 7 > Windows 10

 

The link in the quote below does a nice job of explaining how and why games for Windows 10 UWP suck. The more you look at what Micro$haft has done with W10, the more apparent it becomes that they should be viewed as an enemy rather than an ally. They absolutely do not have our best interests in mind with any aspect of W10. Their agenda is self-serving, detrimental and hostile toward gamers and performance PC enthusiasts alike.

 

But how do you REALLY feel about them?

Thankfully Linux + WINE will run D2. There are workarounds in Windows, but... no, thanks. I digress, though.

 

It's not half bad. I got a version with all updates integrated in it from Feb 2014 and it's very much like 7. Performance is also very good.
Sometimes the widgets on the right don't start properly, but it's a rare occasion.
I only play Starcraft 2 and DOTA 2 on this laptop and they both run fine.

My only pain is that I can't install Paint.Net . Apart from that I've been using my laptop with Vista for 2 years now (never had to to a clean format / reinstall).
So yeah, it feels like a slightly less polish version of 7.

Oh, and I still get security updates from Microsoft.

 

Yeah, it's pretty sad how limited ESXi's hardware support is. It's quite disappointing. I do love me some ESXi, though. VMWare is great.

 

Yeah man, that's why I can't proceed further with my "let's stuff everything into one PC using ESXi" plan

Either I will have to pay for Unraid and do it like Linus of Linus Tech Tips... or just split into two or more (!) PCs

 

Personally if I was going to use virtualization for a workstation I would use Unraid for workstation and ESXi for servers. Right now I just use bare metal Windows for workstation and ESXi for servers, works quite well for me.

 

Can I also get to vote ? Please ?

No one uses Win8.1 yeah It's bugged & castrated but I can't stand to the eternal beta nightmare, ultra bloatware of the Windows X and this widows10 is not eligible for castration , The reason I'm using this OS is no full UEFI for Win7 & all Win7 apps should easily work with 8.1 not like 10 breaking things here and there, updated WDDM2.0 on 10 makes things more difficult & sooner or later 7 will die, then 8.1 might be the best option..

Even the LTSB is updated every year and expect the major apps breaking with the AU / Even LTSB since drivers are always a mess and now the Creators Update is coming soon in Spring expect more changes and radical anti user choice syndrome, LTSB won't be updated. One year minimum for that build to get updated to that I guess since LTSB stayed on TH1 even when TH2 came and now the RS1 made it.

 

There's also some cases of certain MMOs working better on Windows 7 over Windows 10 especially with them being CPU-bound games and MR.Fox provided a reference sheet for the CPU performance being better in Windows 7 than 10.

A Windows 10 Update was probably the culprit in leaving my family computer unusable for 2 days after force closing Photoshop. I also had to do a system restore to revert back to before the update got implemented.

 

*repost

 

Sounds like a good idea, let me plan this out...

 

Second time saying this, but...

Everyone detests Windows 10, and yet everyone uses it???

Also, what's with the hate against 8.1? It feels like a faster version of 7 to me, after StartIsBack and Aero Glass have been installed...

 

Not exactly.

Also not exactly.

Most users I've spoken with are fine with Windows 10 (I stress "fine" - they neither love it nor hate it), but are a little bent out of shape over how invasive it/Microsoft is and maintain at least a few gripes over compatibility with certain software.

Mr. Fox's post on the performance comparison between 7, 8.1, and 10 was interesting too, and another user here described 10 as being in a sort of perpetual state of beta. I never thought about it that way before, but it does sort of feel that way.