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    Which one should I get? NP5796 (M570TU) vs NP9262 (D901C)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by leebaldock, Aug 7, 2008.

  1. soxamaca

    soxamaca Notebook Consultant

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    I agree with ARGH. The 9600M GS is basically just as bad as your 7600GT to be honest, it's very slightly better, while the 9800M GT is loads better. So it's pretty much a no-brainer that if you want to play games at all, you're going to want the M570TU. Don't be frugal on such a big and long-lasting purchase, you'll almost ALWAYS regret it later, I know I do :p.
     
  2. Tankbuster

    Tankbuster Notebook Consultant

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    M570TU, hands down.

    If you want to play Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 at high details and high resolution, you'll need the M570TU, period. It's that simple really. It doesn't matter if the ASUS had a blu-ray, a FP-reader, a photon torpedo and a light saber coming with it: it simply does not satisfy your needs.
     
  3. leebaldock

    leebaldock Notebook Evangelist

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    Done! I ordered the M570TU!
     
  4. ARGH

    ARGH Notebook Deity

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    sere if you can the one in silver trim as it looks more professional.
     
  5. Hellsing555

    Hellsing555 Notebook Enthusiast

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    hello, i have a question, (im not sure if im gonna get my answer though... this thread is soo old.. :)):
    im also in a big decision between these two sagers.. i dont think im gonna need the hdmi i already have another laptop which i use as a home-cinema,
    and i dont think im gonna need the FP reader, (if anyone wants to convince me othervise.. please do :)) i think im gonna get 2x 200gb HDD in RAID0 so im not gonna need eSata... so it spels - NP9262...
    my only question is.... DDR2 VS DDR3
    Is it as huge difference as i think it is ? please tell me more...
    what about its size? is it as huge con as some guy in this thread said it is ?
    and if anyone has anything more to say to change my opinion - please say
     
  6. leebaldock

    leebaldock Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi,

    I bought the M570TU as you can see from my post a few posts back. The FP reader is really really nice.

    I don't think the performance difference between the DDR2 and DDR3 is going to be significant enough to warrant that being a deciding factor. For me the slightly smaller form factor of the M570TU was one of the biggest things.

    The NP9262 would be a fantastic laptop and one day when I have the money I hope to get one - or it's offspring :)

    If you want desktop power in a laptop with all the benefits that brings - 3 hard disk bays, flexibility with CPU's (upgrade) and the ability to have SLI then the NP9262 would be the one to get.

    If you think about it my desktop PC runs a Q6600 with DDR2 ram at 800Mhz and it isn't slow! You could run a Q9550 or an E8400 in a NP9262 (even better!)...I don't ram speed is going to be an issue.

    Good luck! :)
     
  7. Hellsing555

    Hellsing555 Notebook Enthusiast

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    ok thx, but why didn't you buy the NP9262? i heard something about its size, that it is rly uncomfortable, is it true?
    I dont know which laptop do I want, cuz i dont know how much power do I need,I kinda think that i could go with 1x 9800gtx..
    P.S can you give me some review about ur M570TU,? did you buy it from clevo ?
     
  8. Soloman

    Soloman Notebook Consultant

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    The D900 is a power house and weighs about 11lbs (do the metric conversion yourself), thats mostly the complaints from those who have one. I had one it died after 4 years solid use, but am planing on buying another, the weight and size doesnt matter to me.

    This is a DTR machine, rather it should be called a Desktop in a Laptop case. It is meant to be used more as a Desktop, meaning you are not hauling it around all the time, and only when necessary. It also has the power of the Desktop which for me is very important.

    The other complaint being the battery life but anyone with common sense about this machine knows battery is moot for why you are buying it.

    I am just waiting to see if any new things are in store for it soon otherwise I am going for it, I miss mine big time. My current one is the AW 9750 which is great but those who have worked with both lappy and desktop cpu's can feel the difference.
     
  9. Hellsing555

    Hellsing555 Notebook Enthusiast

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    just curious: what was the battery life on your NP9262?
    Was it comfortable for long gaming sesions? cuz i heard that the NP9262 is about an inch thicker then any other notebook which made it uncomfortable.
     
  10. frag100

    frag100 Notebook Guru

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    Scrape up the extra $$$ and upgrade the 9262. It's the most powerful laptop on the market today.
     
  11. Hellsing555

    Hellsing555 Notebook Enthusiast

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    can anyone comment the NP9262 looks? is it realy that ugly ? better can someone post some home-made pics of it ? that be great...
    and once again, with high-clock CPU and 9800gtx, how much battery life can i expect ?
     
  12. ojchillinndc

    ojchillinndc Notebook Evangelist

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    I guess it's all your perspective. Mine, the 9262 is not that ugly. You could take it to work or school and not get any heads turned. I think that the power it releases surely out weighs it's looks.

    If you are more into looks then power, maybe you should look at the OCZ Whitebook. The benchmarks alot of people are getting are close or equal to the 9262 and early buzz is people really like it. It has a lighted keyboard like the m17x as well.

    IMO, you can't go wrong with either. OCZ or 9262. Both are great.
     
  13. Soloman

    Soloman Notebook Consultant

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    I didnt buy this for the battery life, battery lasted when doing full scale cpu and gpu tasks about an hour. If you hadn't done your homework and researched this machine then you should not be buying it to take to Starbucks.

    This is a plug in dependent machine and if you dont have the plug for it dont get it, Figure it as a desktop with a built in screen, and you only need one plug to get them both on.

    If you are looking enter this machine in a beauty contest then this isnt for you, ita a machine that does work not make pretty.
     
  14. leebaldock

    leebaldock Notebook Evangelist

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    The 9262 isn't ugly at all IMHO. It's a beautiful looking laptop. It's slightly thicker than a "normal" laptop but not overly so. It looks just like a slightly bigger (thicker) laptop. It's the same width across the keyboard and screen as other 17 inch models.

    Here is a review of the 9260 which I am pretty sure is the same chassis as the 9262:

    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3783&review=Sager+NP9260

    I haven't done a review of my NP5796 (M570TU) however I did do some pics the first day I got it:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=3871848#post3871848

    I have been too busy to do anything with it other than use it! :D

    here is a review of the NP5796 (M570TU) which is virtually the same specs as the one I got. auburncoasts' laptop has the better CPU than mine - same speed but less power consumption

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=282246

    I have never used the NP5796 (M570TU) to failure with the battery to truly test how long the battery life is and I always use it on power, however using a little widget I got for the windows task bar on the "power saver plan" within vista it shows that I get about 2 hours remaining on a full charge. currently it's at 84% 1:45 remaining.
     
  15. Baka

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    After reading all these stuff I'm actually going for the M570TU...

    Quad Core sounds so nice though... What does the M570TU lid look like? As plain as the D901C? o_O

    Edit: Nvm just saw it >.> Hm... Still can't decide fully on a 9262 or a 5796... >.< Going to buy one next week
     
  16. Hellsing555

    Hellsing555 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I guess my bigest question is: I It still a laptop? i mean, can i take this thing to school?
    1. will it look good/decent ?
    2. will it give at leat enough battery life to o basic stuff?
    I've read all the available reviews and I still cant decide between the two... (NP9262 an NP5796)
    What I need is, a laptop that could play crysis and games of 2009-2010 on as high requirements as possible, but I still want some portability left...
    the NP5796 is awesome - the ddr3, the looks, all it lacks is a good ~3ghz dual core... and if i'd buy that I' get this primal instinct that i dont have the most powerful thing on the market, u know what i mean ?
    But with NP9262 - i know that i have a beast on my lap, I especially like the vents, It opens so much possibilitys for OC'ing - oh my god...
    So If the NP9262 Also looks good and gives decent battery life - Im going for the primal instinct
    (sorry for the spelling errors)

    P.S I heard that NP9262 Lasted about an hour, while surfing the net, so its about 30-40 min of harcore gaming, and about 1.30 if doing just basic stuff.. thats good enough for me ;)
     
  17. Soloman

    Soloman Notebook Consultant

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    Are you reading anything that people are saying? Battery life on the 9262 is very short you need to plug in.

    You do NOT put either machines on your lap, or bed or anyplace where any of the vents will be blocked. They need to be on a table surface making sure they have air flowing under them or a cooler.

    If you want something to play all the hot games at top settings then the 9262 is it, but you cant use a battery, it wont last long.

    It you want portable then the 570TU. The 9262 is portable but if you dont mind the weight and having to look for a plug then go that way.

    Remember one thing that the 9262 has Desktop CPUs not Notebook. You are dealing with a Desktop in a laptop body. You are getting the highest performing laptop ever as a result. You will not find anything comparible anywhere.
     
  18. Hellsing555

    Hellsing555 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes i am reading what ppl say, in fact i've read every review about these laptops i could find , but "very short" isnt actual numbers... maybe if I buy a spare battery that would help a little bit?
    Ok, that out of the way, my last question: what about the looks? some say it is "ugly like a butt" others say its "quite decent" how does it rly look?, i saw every picture of it i could find and i still dont know exactly..
    Will I be able to take it to school without ppl laughing behind my back ?
     
  19. Baka

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    Well I'm sure I can use my current Acer laptop for schoolwork and stuff so I guess I'd go with the 9262 for it's power =/

    Still can't fully decide myself between the two but now im tilting towards the 9262
     
  20. theriko

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    According to the latest bios update, the 570TU will be getting quads soon (It may well be renamed the M570TU-U or something):

    [​IMG]

    Also, to change the battery on the d901c, you need to undo a screw, so it's annoying to do when out & about :(
     
  21. Soloman

    Soloman Notebook Consultant

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    Then change schools, if you go to a school where your laptop defines who you are, or your intelect.

    This machine says laptop big time whan anyone sees it. Its like a Hummer compared to a Cooper Mini. And the power goes with it. Two batteries will giver you about 2 hours (1 hour each). Seriously though if you decide on the 9262 look for a power outlet I am not saying this enough, when the battery starts to go like about 40 minutes into running it starts doing power management and that affects anything you are doing at the moment. You have like 15 minutes to finish, shut down or plug in. Even though it can run on a battery consider the battery like a back up power supply.
     
  22. leebaldock

    leebaldock Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes it is a laptop. I wouldn't take it to school every day.
    Yes
    Not enough for me.
    If you only want a 9800GT the M570TU will be better for portability and battery life.
    What is the thing you MUST have in a laptop.
    What are the top three things you really really need to do with this?
     
  23. nam3|ess

    nam3|ess Notebook Consultant

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    Hey Hellsing,

    Answered your PM and saw you had this thread going on.

    It seems that you are have a tough decision here and I think you know your answer. The 9262 is really reliant on a power source. Rule number 1 of using this beast for gaming is... to keep it plugged in. If you don't... your vid card will not be to its full potential (it gets down clocked on battery power... bad) So if portability is your concern... and battery life... the 5796 is for you. I'm not really familiar with the battery life the 5796... but I'm guessing thats its a tad bit longer than the 9262.

    Changing up the settings for "battery options' from high performance to power saver should help a little. Couple of things to consider as well for battery life is having 1 vid card vs 2 (going sli). That takes up more juice. It's a battle finding a balance for a gaming laptop that is being asked to be a school laptop as well. As I mentioned to you in the PM... the 9262 is mobile... but not so portable. It'll take up a big chunk of a desk hehe.

    Maybe another one to consider is the NP8660... a 15.4 inch that can perform just as good as the 5796. You might have to start looking at other options... just because what your looking for seems to not all be there in your current options.

    Final note... who cares about looks hehe... don't be an all show and no go kinda guy :) people can comment about my 9262... but when it comes down to registry in FPS games... I'll be the one laughing tee hee
     
  24. Hellsing555

    Hellsing555 Notebook Enthusiast

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    the thing is, I dont know if I need portable, I think mobile is good enough, cuz i have my current laptop, and i only took it to school like 2 or 3 times... And i dont think that ill be taking my next laptop out more often, i guess what i want is... to know that i can...
    I want to thank you all guys, You have been such a great help, and my decision just got way easier because of you..
     
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