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    Why not ALL Clevo/Sager Resellers...200GB 7200rpm SATA-300?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Larry@LPC-Digital, Dec 1, 2007.

  1. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    Here I am ready to order a system with the SLI 8800M GTX and notice that Sager and XOTIC and others do not offer the 200GB 7200 SATA-300 hard drive in the configuration. You would think they would. This one is the ultra fast HITACHI Travelstar 7K200 that Dell , Prostar and PC Microworks and others too are using these.

    http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10007106
     
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  2. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    I do not know how many times we have gone over this.

    It does not matter if its SATA I or II.... notebook drives have yet to even fully utilize the old ATA-100MB/s.... let alone SATAI's 150MB/s and SATA II 300MB/s.

    The 7200 rpm is the main bottleneck for HDDs (for notebooks and desktops).

    Only desktop SCSI or WD Raptor drives with 10,000rpm+ have a chance to take advantage of the 100MB/s+ transfer rates.

    FYI:
    SATA I = SATA/150 (mega bytes/sec) = 1.5Gb/s (giga bits/sec)
    SATA II = SATA/300 (mega bytes/sec) = 3.0Gb/s (giga bits/sec)
     
  3. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    I understand that. What about the faster seek times of this drive as well as the 16MB buffer? This can only help.
     
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    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    8-16mb buffer is not significant really. Read up on the differences... its the RPMs that makes the most significant of differences.
     
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    MegaBUD Notebook Evangelist

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    Oh... i didnt know that... thx... maybe ill change my config at eurocom
     
  6. Wu Jen

    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    Tests have shown the SATA300 and SATA150 7k200's to be identical in performance. I have 3 of them in my system. They both have 16MB buffers btw, both the HTS722020K9A300 1.5GB/s and the HTS722020K9SA00 3.0GB/s interfaces.

    There is no way even in RAID0 that your going to get 1.5GB/s xfer rate...just not possible.

    So the only difference is....none really. The D901C does have a SATA 300 capability but your probably not going to see a notebook HDD that can take full advantage of it until after the notebook has long since passed into obsolence.
     
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    Those 2.5" 10k rpm drives are for slimline servers... using SCSI usually.
     
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    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    Those that he posted are SATA300, but I do wonder how hot they get.... :p
     
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    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Umm.... no they are not SATA (Serial ATA).

    those are SAS (Serial Attached SCSI).

    Geez, didnt you notice the section these drives are placed under?!?

    Products & Services > Server & Enterprise Storage > Savvio® Hard Drives > Savvio® 10K.2

    Sorry, no wishful thinking, but no 10k rpm drives for notebooks... (some might say "yet"... but heat will be the issue)
     
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    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    Alright may be kind of funny but couldn't you use this to change the SAS signal to SATA then mount 3 of them in a D901C? :p

    Spacing constraints would be a problem, that backplane adapter probably would not have enough room.

    I still agree they would probably smoke a laptop.
     
  12. grunnsat

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    Toshiba and Seagate have similar drives. The Seagates have 5 yrs warrenty, and there is a 200GB model with a gravity sensor. If you drop the notebook, the disk will notice and park the heads to prevent a head crash.