Will Clevo be releasing a GTX 1080 Desktop edition laptop?

The GTX 980 MXM has 200W power draw, the 1080 has 180W power draw, does that mean that we will be getting a 1080 inside of the next CLEVO laptop? and if so any idea when?

 

Unfortunately that information is not public yet. However given the circumstances I would assume so.

 

waaaaay too early to speculate on anything regarding a nextgen desktop flaship in mobile form factor...id say ud have to wait like a year or so before this becomes a topic

 

A YEAR?!!? awwwww I was hoping by christmas 2016 or maybe early 2017

 

well, just go back an check the release dates of the desktop 980 and desktop 980 mobile and ull see what i mean desktop 1080 was JUST released so itll take quite a while until (and IF) a mobile counterpart will be released heck, we dont even have any infos / rumours / leaks yet regarding regular pascal mobile and ure already out for 1080 desktop mobile?!

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I could understand a question about a 1080M but talking about the 1080 Desktop edition...which won't be available before at least 1year + some months...


For laptop 1080M on word : COMPUTEX

 

The bulk of engineering is done. They know how to do it now, and it's supported by more than just Clevo. I'd say it will take about to November.

 

There is less work than before but still work to do, you have to design the ultra compact cards very carefully.

 

It's not about the time it takes to design the card, but more like marketing timing,

it's 1080M -> 1080 desktop when they need to boost sales in the DTR tier... they won't release a video card that may harm the sales of the upcoming 1080M..but when those very sales begin to fall...


They can release a desktop class 1080 right now if they want.

 

Hoping for a Christmas release. I'll buy it.

 

Even if Nvidia has the chips ready, that doesn't mean that the laptop manufacturer's would necessarily be ready for something like that to roll out. Laptop companies would have to design and manufacturer new components that would work with it. Also, they would have to have enough of the chips made for both desktop and laptop sides. Yes, there are probably some marketing aspects there, but also engineering and manufacturing that needs to be done. I would think trying to launch a full line up all at once would delay the launch date quite a bit, and typically they have launched graphics cards in waves.

 

Also remember that the 980 desktop cards used the cream of the crop GM204 cores which can take some time to build up stock.

 

That and GDDR5x volume is going to be extremely limited for now. At best, I say q1 2017. Most likely? We might see some news about it 2017 q2.

 

I am kinda skeptical about Nvidia launching GTX 1080 for laptops. Because many laptop companies and people are thinking that graphics amplifier is much more efficient than just putting the giant power horse in a laptop.

 

There are still a good amount of people that want to have just a higher end graphics card and not have to worry about a eGPU/dock/amplifier. I think you would have to see a pretty good amount of sales of the eGPUs, and a fall off on sales of the 980 models to really get them to not make another desktop graphics possibly. So far the various models with 980 seem to be well received, so hopefully they would want to continue on with that trend.

 

Don't forget that the new cards use a lot less power than the 9 series, this would apply to mobile M and mobile without-M models ;-) So we could be putting a giant powerhouse in a laptop but it would be more powerful and less power-consuming which is a win for everyone!!! As for the other speculation, I of course can't comment but most of you guys will be pretty happy.

@pat@XOTICPC is correct, the 980 was very well received and there's clearly lots of demand for this and similar cards in the future.

 

Yes as technology and manufacturing continue to make advancement, it should not surprise us that something good is right around the corner....

 

aw u guys are such teasers! makes me wanna trade jobs

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There was once a time where I was thinking "You want me to talk to people about the newest gaming tech, and you will pay me for it? How have I not been doing this already?" There are definitely some fun perks of the job.

 

There is no way that market would take over. I would no longer have use for gaming notebooks that would be referred to as Ball 'n Chain Notebooks.

 

So let say both the 1080m and desktop class 1080 for laptops comes out, which of the 2 will be the ideal 4K / VR / Gaming/Engineering laptop? Budget will be 3K up to 4K and SLI 1080m will also be available.

 

VR and 4k are always going to be hungry beasts.

 

You could assume the desktop version would be more powerful than the mobile version. Still no information on mobile graphics cards though, so you'll have to wait to see how any new cards might stack up to the 900 series.

 

I agree with you but don't you think the work they did on the desktop 980 can be "ported" to the desktop mobile gtx 1080 ?

For me both cards shares PCiE, and the same form factor and power consumption .

 

980 and 1080 have different architecture in the cards, so there is going to be some differences they would have to do to make 1080 work. Haven't seen a 1080 on hand, but I believe the chips aren't the same size? Could be wrong on that one though.

 

Well the new desktop chip is actually a fair bit hungrier than the 980 according to Nvidia's slides.

 

Mr Fox made the desktop 980 pull at 1500/2500 I think 325W... Maybe if there was a 1080 desktop edition in notebooks that would be 500W

 

You could make the P570WM max out both bricks with the 780M, so been there, done that

 

For me someone who invested in R&D for integrating a 980 desktop gpu, will only spend minimal time and money for the integration of the 1080.

Let's see what they might do :
Beefing the TDP (The mxm 3.0b delivers itself the power to the card, everything is already here...)
Improving cooling management.
Making the computer VR friendly (display port, Optimus switch if it is present)

Well you're looking at this the wrong way, nvidia claims a performance/Watt improvement of up to 3X, so the 100W class mobile gpu would be in fact 50-100% (I'm reducing it, we all know it's not going to be 3X ^^) more powerful using the same W.

Mobile GPU are designed with a TDP limitation firmly imposed by notebook manufacturers. The 1080 is like a intel K processor it was created with overclock in mind , so the TDP anounced might include some room for OC.

Well I just keep talking, but in the end i wan't my 1080M ^^...I really hope it would be at computex , i highly doubt nividia won't include Pacal for new Macbook pro (anouncement mid-june) because if that's not the case than Apple will jump to the Polaris architecture (which is notebook first + anouncement in May, invitation already sent).

 

I am not saying that egpu will take over the market. Nvidia will still make graphics cards for mobile. What I am saying is that they might not make the Desktop gpu for laptops. We will see what happens sooner or later

 

If they are like the 980 series the stock TDP was for stock and it could be raised to allow better overclocking.

 

The chips are smaller, shouldnt an issue.

 

I guess it's down to sales. The 1080M will surpass the 970 requirement for VR, so I don't see any reason to continue making 200W cards beyond providing an option for those who dislike SLI.

 

how abouuuut...VR at 4K?

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There will be a demand for the best you can squeeze into the current chassis that's for sure.

 

Just curious, where did you see that about pascal mxm cards?

 

I wasn't trying to find out to get anybody in trouble. I was just curious if there was some kind of article or something that I might have missed on that.

 

end of september, ill keep that in mind and make sure it makes the rounds here at NBR

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That is so late for those of us who have the summer free. Like no pascal for mobile in the entire summer ?

 

It is almost confirmed that Apple will use Polaris for its Macs(from various news sites).



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Well, apparently, Polaris has some stability issue...can't reach a stable 850mhz clock, that's why manufacturers won't be able to show @ Computex Polaris cards, it's a RUMOR, but if that's the case, than I don't want to be in Tim cook's office right now ^^

 

More news about the 1080:

http://videocardz.com/59882/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-3dmark-overclocking-performance

I am so hyped for this!

 

Don't shout too loudly about that date, nothing has been confirmed yet ;-) - I have seen a few dates thrown around in the public domain, they cover quite a large timeframe and to be honest there are still too many variables to rely on an accurate date/week at the moment.

 

Before school begins after the summer holidays? Am I close?

 

That's a nice increase, it will be interesting to see the thermals on that too.

 

We'll probably see a 1080M first, and it'll probably match a single GTX 980 in benches.

So, start saving up for a 1080M SLI setup.

 

Oh there will be plenty of beastly machines and setups, of that you can be sure

I'm saving up certainly

 

The GTX 1080 is roughly a 60% improvement over the 980, so if the 1080m is a 60% improvement it will be 10 - 15% faster than a 980m. However a 1080 desktop will be 125 - 140% faster than a 980m

 

All we are getting is 1080 GP204-400 benches, we need 1070 info a GM204-200 since the mobile 1080M would be similar to that of 1070 like 980M to 970, GP104-200. But I'll wait for gen2 pascal, if nothing comes up, unless they go HBM2 on mobile then maybe 1080M would be last, with MXM3.0b.

 

no way they will have enough HBM2 for that, I doubt we'll be seeing laptop GPUs with HBM2 until 2018