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    Will Pioneer DVR K06 DVD Rom fit in the Sager NP9261?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by fubarms, Mar 10, 2008.

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    fubarms Notebook Consultant

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    Hi, my DVD Rom has stop working on my Sager NP9261 I want to know if the Pioneer DVR K06 will fit in my system.
     
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    If the Pioneer DVR K06 does not fit what other DVD-RW Will it fit? Please help out thanks so much.
     
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    @eleron911 - WARNING: ANOTHER BIG HONKIN' NOVEL COMING DOWN THE PIKE! However, it does contain some useful info, I think. :D


    Ok, on to the meat of the post: Anything that has (a) the same physical dimensions, (b) the same power requirements, and (c) the same interface, should fit.

    Looking at the xoticpc configuration page for the NP9262, I see that one of the optical drive options is the Panasonic Blu-ray drive, OEM model number UJ-220.

    Now, since this is an OEM-only drive (as far as I can tell), it's difficult to get the specs on it (Panasonic, like almost everyone else is infuriating on this topic :mad: ); however, Dell support in Japan does have basic specs for the UJ-220 here.

    Keeping in mind that Dell does a lot of funky (there are more apt descriptors, but I'm trying to cut back on sailor-talk for lent :rolleyes: ) proprietary things with devices that should be industry-standard - meaning we cannot be 100% sure that specs for a Dell UJ-220 are the same as for every other UJ-220; however, since it has the same OEM-only model number, we can assume that the specs are the same with a high degree of confidence until we find something specific that contradicts that assumption.

    Based on the afore-linked Dell UJ-220 specs, the following appear to be the relevant data:
    • Dimensions and Weight -
      Width = 128mm (5.04 in), Depth = 127mm (5.00 in), Height = 12.7mm (0.5 in), Weight = 190g
    • Power supply -
      DC5V +/-0.25V
    • Power Consumption (typical) -
      1100 mA
    • System Interface -
      ATAPI (IDE)/Max. 33.3 MB/s (UDMA Mode 2)

    So, since the UJ-220 appears to fit into the NP9261/2 as a replacement option to the standard CD/DVD optical drive that comes standard, it stands to reason that there's a good chance that anything that satisfies the above-listed specifications will also fit - correct?

    Based on Pioneer Electronic's own datasheet (or this pdf datasheet), these are the equivalent specs for the DVR-K06:
    • Dimensions and Weight -
      Width = 128mm (5.04 in), Depth = 127mm (5.00 in), Height = 12.7mm (0.5 in), Weight = 180g
    • Power supply -
      ??
    • Power Consumption (typical) -
      ??
    • System Interface -
      ATAPI Interface ATAPI, ATA-5 (PIO Mode4, Multiword DMA Mode2, Ultra-DMA Mode2)
      IDE Data Transfer of PIO Mode 4, Multi Word DMA Mode 2, Ultra DMA Mode 2, and Ultra DMA Mode 4 (Ultra DMA 66)

    Now, I didn't find specs on the DVR-K06's power supply or power consumption; however, the second spec-sheet above states that the unit has "Low Power Consumption of 6W during DVD±R 8X CLV Writing."

    For comparison, the UJ-220, under typical loads, should have a power consumption of 5.225W - 5.775W based on a power supply of 5V +/-0.25V and a typical current draw of 1100mA (i.e., 1.1 amperes) - power (in Watts) is just I*V, giving, in this case, for typical operations a range of (4.75V * 1.1A = 5.225W) to (5.25V * 1.1A = 5.775W).

    Now, I realize that with delicate electronics milliamps and millivolts can make all the difference in the world, so my conclusions are shakiest here; however, it seems to me that the DVR-K06's power consumption is within tolerances for the Clevo/Sager NP9261/2 based on the optical drive it can in fact accept.

    Also, as stated on the second datasheet above, the DVR-K06 is compliant with the Seagate industry form-factor specifications, SFF-8552, for slim notebook optical drives; thus, since Clevo doesn't, so far as I've seen, engage in proprietary form-factors with any high degree of regularity*, there's a very good chance that Clevo uses optical drives that conform to SFF-8552 as well - to make sure though, you should check with your reseller and/or Sager (I'm not going to do every iota of research what with Google being so cooperative today :D ).

    In terms of actual tested compatibility, Pioneer has published a compatibility chart on the web here listing Mobos and SATA host controllers that are known to work with Pioneer Blu-ray optical drives; I didn't find a Clevo mobo; however, as the webpage states: "Your motherboard may not be on this list. This does not mean your motherboard will not work with a Pioneer Blu-ray Disc drive, only that it has not been tested with the drive." So, absence does not mean incompatibility. Check with Sager - give 'em a call, I hear they're very friendly, helpful folks. :eek:

    So, bottom line, there's a very good chance that the Pioneer DVR-K06 will fit quite comfortably in your Sager NP9261, replacing your defunct CD/DVD; however, if you really want to know, why not ask the horse itself - Sager? Their technical support people can be emailed at: [email protected]

    Or you can call them at: (626) 964-4849 or (800) 741-2219, or even fax them at: (626) 964-2381. Keep in mind, Sager's technical support department keeps the following business hours: Monday - Friday 7:30a.m. - 5:30p.m. PST (for folks on the East Coast, that's 10.30am EST to 8.30pm EST).

    *Fn. No, Clevo did not go "off the rez" with the MXM-IV HE GPU cards, which the MXM-deity at www.mxm-upgrade.com initially (and very reasonably) suspected as proprietary; as mxm-upgrade itself notes, NVidia intended for the MXM-IV HE format, but was hesitant to put it into the MXM "standard" until it found out how the vendors would react - the reaction must have been favorable because MXM-IV HE is fully described in the current version of the MXM Electromechanical specifications released by NVidia last November (check their website:rolleyes: ).
     
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