Will penryn work with the new motherboard (D901C)

I am looking to purchase a new D901C (with the 8800 gtx motheboard revison) however, I was curious if I should save my money and get the 2.4 ghz quad instead for the 2.66, and buy a penryn later, or if that won't work.

Thanks

 

No one knows, except possibly Clevo. The 965 won't officially support Penryn I'm pretty sure, but depending on the mobo it may be possible with a BIOS update. However some mobos will have to have a VRM update as well, so if that's the case it wouldn't work.

 

Shoot, you'd be unhappy with a quad core as soon as the newest stuff comes out? Please

I'd say get the quad core and forget about it...it isn't the end of the world to have something that isn't #1, and quite frankly that processor is DARN powerful.

 

Everyone is still hoping it will. But only Clevo/Sager know for sure right now. I doubt very much you would be unhappy with the current quad cores though. It is a gamble either way it depends really on how long you can wait and if you are willing to pay for a potentially expensive upgrade. I couldn't wait any longer and I am not in the least bit unhappy with mine right now.

 

I honestly dont think so. I asked PCMicroworks if they will have an upgrade path to the new processors and instead of saying something like, sure, just pop the new cpu in your current laptop they said they will provide an upgrade path and try to make the cost as minimal as possible. To me that sounds like new mobo. Just my opinion though.

 

the current D901C choices will not be supporting penryn.

 

Thanks everyone I appreciate the responses.

I have been lurking here for weeks and I have to tell you, there is no better place for laptop information.

Thanks again!

 

every "UPGRADE" has needed a MB so i think that is what they will keep on doing till people stop buying them.

 

yes you will need a new mobo

 

I have to agree with Greg, I think the Q6700 will be just fine for quite a while.

 

To my knowledge the penryns are for the p35 chip set not the p965. With that being said I would say, probably not.

Like Greg and Navy Said, The q6700 is one powerful processor. If your only use of the 901c is gaming, You defiantly will not need to upgrade from the q6700 for a long time as games are more GPU Dependant that anything else.

 

The only real benefit seems that they are slightly faster and have better (smaller) power consumption. For me at least, that isn't worth the hefty "new cpu!" price that will come along with it. I will probably upgrade a few months down the road.

As stated and I agree, the q6600-6700 is more than enough power for now considering that most software can't even use more than 1 core anyways. Those that can (i.e. Hellgate London) aren't showing a huge performance increase either but at least it can get activity on all of the cores.

I think this will be another "hype" based product upon its release. That isn't to say there aren't benefits but the benefit to cost ratio (in my opinion) won't be good to say the least.

 

Without the product in hand, even Clevo probably does not know whether the D90xC will support Penryn. At this point, Sager hasn't even received a roadmap from Intel with Penryn availability information (I ask them weekly for a status update ).

In this case, especially, I'd say the onus of a new motherboard upgrade would be on Intel's shoulders more than it would be Clevo's, since AMD has proven that it's possible to have a socket architecture that is both backwards and forwards compatible.

If you want the system now, go for the higher end processor, since it's likely that only the overpriced Extreme processors will be available in Penryn for a while, anyway. Otherwise, wait until there is actually information available on real Penryn availability (I would even suggest waiting for the non-extreme processors, since they'll run just as fast, if not faster, and you won't be paying for an overclocker's processor on a system that should never be overclocked). If you buy with the intent to upgrade, there is too great a chance you will get burned because of the 965 vs. P35 socket architecture.

 

I think the will be real increases in performance but again it will only matter if you use them. I agree with Eleison in that in the end it will mean at the very least 1 MB upgrade if not 2. I am waiting for at least the first change to see what happens. But if not I will get it late next year when the change to the P35 socket is complete. Also this is Intel's fault because they are not really for standards. It could probably be done on the same chipset/socket at least this first rev. The next release might be a different story though.

 

It can and is being done on the same chipset and socket, however the smaller die seems to require a new VRM, making a drop-in upgrade unlikely/impossible.

 

For the original D901C owners (yours truly!) it's a no brainer for the upgrade. If they offer it I'll be going that way when it's available. For Q6700 owners I don't see it being worth it tbh.

 

I agree if you already have a 6600/6700 it probably is not worth the cost to upgrade. But if you are looking at the 8800 upgrade and can get both done in one pass it would be more cost effective and probably worth it. That is part of the reason for me waiting to see what happens.

 

Sorry everyone but recieved this email from clevo with regard to the D901c adding supporti for the new cpu's


Dear David

For the D901C we do not have any plan to support Penryn CPU.

Because Penryn CPU socket is u PGA 478, and D901C CPU socket is LGA775, they are not the same.

Thank you,
James Shen

 

The Intel 45nm quad-core processors have been delayed anyway:
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2007/12/19/intel_delays_quad_penryns/
So those of you with quads can stay at the top of the technology wave for a bit longer.
I have a Q6600 in my desktop and I just bought a new motherboard; while the new board I bought supports Penryn I have no plans to go to it because as noted, hardly anything uses the quad-core to its potential.

 

That is NOT Correct.

The Penryn Chips will be released as Both A Mobile and a Desktop CPU
Both PGA 478 and LGA775 chips will be avalable.

Quote from a Digg Article interviewing a Rep. from Intel.:

Penryn is still not without its mysteries; a primary concern for enthusiasts is motherboard and socket support. Penryn will launch on Socket 775 -- meaning existing motherboards can physically harbor the new CPU, but electrically might not. "Motherboard developers will have to make some minor changes to support [Penryn]. We can't guarantee that a person could just plug the chip into every motherboard on the market today." However, Smith also claimed the Penryn boot test that grabbed so many headlines last week occurred on unmodified hardware that included a notebook, several desktop motherboards and several server motherboards.


Article quoted is Here:
http://www.dailytech.com/life+with+penryn/article5869.htm

 

Ya I read that Too.

Here Tho:
http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20071218PD212.html

Still the release will be in the first Quarter....it just may be March 31st is all..........LOL

 

Thanks for the find DJDave! Who the heck is James Shen anyhow? I'm guessing a Sager Rep?

 

no wu clevo marketing, I'll forward that article back to him and see what i get back, nothing credible i'll guess but worth a try.

 

To make it easy on him ask about wolfdale (Dual Core) and yorkfield (Quad Core) Support for the Clevo D901C.

The top of the line Dual Core Wolfdale (3.13 gig) is set to be priced at 266 bucks (US)

that may be worth the cost of the RMA just to try it.

 

your better off asking them with the official marking name vs the tech code names.

break down:

Penryn = 45nm CPUs

Penryn Penryn = Mobile 45nm AKA: (T8100/T8300/T9300/T9500)

Penryn Wolfdale = Desktop 45nm dual core AKA: (E8xxx)

Penryn Yorkfield = Desktop 45nm quad core AKA: (Q9xxx)

i do recall that justin has a post that clevo answered that currently there are major bios issue, to support wolfdale / yorkfield (AKA: desktop penryn). forgot which thread it was posted in.

found it: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=2738170&postcount=297