Will we see the Mobility Radeon HD 6870 soon?

I've searched the net a bit and to my surprise found out that AMD is probably going to release the HD 6700 series in October ( source). We all know the MR HD 5870 is based on the HD 5770 so it would seem logical that AMD uses this chance to also roll out the MR HD 6870 which would most likely be again based on the HD 6770. Now there is no word about a MR HD 6870 anywhere, but it has been common practice up until now to release the mobile counterpart of the desktop GPU either with the new card or soon after its release. It would sure be a wise move by AMD since Nvidia will have a hard time catching up at this pace... But of course, this is all just speculation...

I know there is a thread about this here. But we all know that people over here are probably most interested in this kind of stuff and afaik the info about HD 6700 series coming out in October is new.

 

i sure hope so

 

I'd doubt it, only because new video card tech really isn't needed right now. I'd wait for the generation of video cards that come after the next gen consoles are released. Just no reason to upgrade a vide card if you are running a 5770 and up card.

 

For more info check this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...0727-ati-mobility-hd-6000-series-roadmap.html

 

will the 5850 be able to game the next 2 years in High details? with alright FPS? im not really good on GPU stuffs..

 

Nobody is able to tell you this, but ask yourself: Would you be able to play in 1080p and high details with a Mobility Radeon HD 3850? (The answer is no) You will have to make a choice between high resolution and high details. But it always depends on the game and its engine. If it has a engine that can be used on different platforms (like the UT engine) chance are, that the requirements are not that high or will only demand a much better card once the new revision of that engine comes out. Generally a SLI/Crossfire system is more future proof - in two years it will still deliver the same performance than (low or mid level) high-end GPUs of the newest generation, but they will lack some features (DX11.1/DX12, etc.). But you cannot predict anything in such a fast changing industry...

I know, that thread is also linked in my original post. But I still think the news about the HD 6770 probably coming next month is worth a new thread.

 

Good stuff. The performance notebook market desperately needs some competition to push the outrageous prices of laptop GPUs down.

 

Yeah, I'd like to see MR6870 before Sandy Bridge and be able to upgrade...Dreams...

 

Yes so long as the next gen consoles are not made in the next 2 years. Remember that games are made right now to be run on current consoles...ps3 and xbox 360..and those consoles are equivalent to a 9600gt card I believe, a far cry from a 5770...

 

I really don't think we have to worry about a new gen console in the next two years. Simply put, as far as my understanding, they are "refreshing" the consoles via add-ons to double the lifespan they would normally have. This is what the whole motion detection thing is about on PS3/Xbox 360. It saves them a lot of money.

 

I believe the PS3 is based on a modded NVidia 7800GT
and the XBOX 360 is based on a modded ATI X800
Old tech by this time. Console ports are ruining PC only games.
sad times

 

And there's a good chance that the next gen consoles are to be based on Fusion.

 

I still want the blues and greens in consoles though.

 

Blues - maybe, greens - maybe not

 

Well I don't really care that much.. as long as I see greens in my computers I would be fine

 

It is interesting for those of us that buy a new laptop. No point in gettin the 5870 when you can get the 6870m right ?

The thing is it will probably have minimal increase in performance as is the case in the laptop world, and also because it is made in the same manufacturing process. Only thing that's gonna get up is tdp.

Maybe a 100w TDP 5870 with mature 40nm desing process would be the 6870.

That would be near or above 480m in my opinion. Maybe it will have 256 bit but gddr5 and same shaders, but frequency lower, and overall packge fitting inside 100w.

That is how i see the 6870.

 

Here is a very interesting post from the other thread:

I read the same on AnandTech Forums. That could mean a big performance improvement, as you can fit more shaders into the same design. AMD always had way too much computational power for games. Apparently some are already testing the new 6000 series and performance is on par with the HD 5850 which is astonishing. If they would bring that card to laptops, it would destroy that GTX 480M, but we'll see. We should see first benchmarks very soon (of the desktop version that is).

 

Same thing I asked in the GTX 485M thread:
Just a quick question to all the Clevo resellers here: Are you currently under any AMD NDA? If yes, what is the closest date the next NDA expires?

 

One of the most common aspects of a retail NDA is a clause prohibiting you from acknowledging that there is an NDA.

 

The thing is resolution wont go north of 1080p/1200p on laptops. And power consumption of the chips won\t go north of 100w.
So the best gain would be by lowering manufacturing process and optimizations.

As these will increase performance, you must remember resolution will stay the way it is now. So in the end we will have the capability to game, at the laptops max resolution, without a hiccup. But it will take some time before that will happen.

 

So do you think the mobile 6870 will be available in laptops come February 2011 along with Sandy Bridge? I'm itching for that. I already have my laptop specc'ed but need someone to build it!

17" 1920x1080 (matte if at all possible)
i7-2720QM
HD 6870
8GB DDR3
160GB Intel G3 SSD
640GB Samsung 7200RPM
Blu-Ray Reader / Combo Drive
USB 3.0 ports (preferable)
Chiclet style keyboard (backlit)
And all the other standard stuff: HDMI out, displayport out, eSATA USB combo port, card reader, PCMCIA slot, wifi N, gigabit ethernet
2 hours battery life!!!

 

I'm still holding out hope for 2048x1152 on notebook screens.:tongue:


There's also Eyefinity...with the new improvements coming as part of the 6000 series resolutions and orientations can be mixed. Using a laptop screen with two desktop screens should be possible.

 

i think we will see mobility radeon 6870 this year.

 

I think we will see mobility radeon 6870 this year.
As a matter of fact, that's what i'm bettin on, to get 2 of them inside the x7200.

 

My bet is the usual show'em at CES, sell'em in March.

 

They could be out shortly after the desktop 6870 because I don't think they are based off of the 6770 anymore.

 

HD6800 is the new HDx700 level.

AMD typically launches the entire range in a new series of Mobility cards at the same time, along with the low-end and mid-range desktop cards. That all usually occurs in January at CES.

 

Seeing as the full reviews are already available, it appears they're trying to get them out in time for xmas.

 

For the desktop HD6800 is already on sale and Cayman is coming in November.

That's actually late compared to the launches of desktop HD4800 which launched in June, and desktop HD5800 which launched in September. It's a little earlier than the HD3800 which launched in November though.

For all three of those generations Mobility cards were launched in January.

 

Maybe this time we will see the mobility radeon 6870 before the year ends. It will sure cut prices and sales of the 460m and 470m and amd wants a piece of the pie.

 

I am sorry to disappoint. But just like Phinagle said, AMD/ATI has a history of launching Mobility cards in January, with the first laptops shipping with the new cards in February - March.

Also bare in mind, that if indeed the Mobility 6870 was around the corner we would have heard some rumours, but there are none so far.

 

I think Nvidia will release something like gtx580m (base on gtx560) in that frame time too to hold the performance king.

 

I'll admit, earlier on, when the rumors were hinting that Caicos, Barts, and Cayman were all launching in October, and there was no sign of Robson, Capilano, or Granville in the drivers leak, I had a momentary glimmer of hope that AMD's entire schedule had been pushed up compared to the original roadmap, and we might see mobile cards early as well, but the info has changed since then and the usual CES launch looks most likely.

The Mob. HD5870 still beats the GTX 460M in performance, the GTX 470M in perf/$$, and the GTX 480M in perf/watt so they still got a tasty piece of pie in that range. Where AMD seems to be losing some ground though is to Optimus in the low range....though, I'm sure of all the parties involved, AMD realizes best that with Sandy Bridge, Bobcat and later on Llano, all discrete GPUs will be losing ground in that market share anyway.