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    Win XP and GeForce 280m - potential issue?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by JGZinv, Mar 23, 2009.

  1. JGZinv

    JGZinv Notebook Consultant

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    So I bought and am waiting on a 5797 with the newer gpu in it, but
    I purposely left the OS blank as I've got a spare copy of Win XP laying
    around.

    What I'm wondering now that I've researched the gpu a bit more, is because
    it is setup particularly for Win Vista (the power saving reduction to the integrated graphics core) is putting XP on there instead going to be a problem?
    XP is also topped out at DirectX 9.0c where as the 280m is DirectX 10.

    I'm hoping the drivers will be smart enough to just disable the integrated switching and run normal on XP, but I'm somewhat concerned.

    Any comments?
     
  2. Tarentum

    Tarentum Notebook Deity

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    You should make 2 partitions (or 3 - 2 for each OS (like 15GB XP, 30GB future Vista or Windows 7, one data) and install both, imo. The card should not have any issues with XP other than what you stated, no Directx10. I'm not sure how it's specifically set up for Vista (I have no read anything of the sort, but neither have I looked at this card). And as you said, it's up to the drivers and how bad/good they are.
     
  3. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    XP has not been getting Clevo drivers for a while now; its kinda dead... My recommendations would be to grab a copy of Windows 7 build 7057 x64 (PM me for it) and make that your primary OS; scrap XP altogether. Win7's DX11 also has many code optimizations for DX9 and DX10 applications that will help your GTX280 card use its full potential.
     
  4. JGZinv

    JGZinv Notebook Consultant

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    My main problem with Win 7 (besides Vista which I'm not fond of) is the DRM restrictions and some of the other new lock down. I'm on a game mod project and I often have to record line out to line in, so it's a rather "core" responsibility to have clean audio recording.

    The newest game I even own is UT 2k4, at most I'm probably looking at some demos of newer RTS and maybe Starcraft 2 when it's released. 99% of my work and games is all on old software.

    While this news is bleak, I won't turn down the Win 7 offer. But I'd like to see if I can get XP running. Everything else I run is on XP.
     
  5. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    I've looked through the official Clevo Vista drivers for the 260M and 280M, then compared them to the latest 182.0x XP drivers from laptopvideo2go, and the Device ID are in there, but they're listed as 180M and 170M. The only issue is that the Clevo driver has six different IDs for each card, but a copy/paste should be an option for your XP drivers.

    emike: PM sent.
     
  6. Tarentum

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    Eh, I recently installed 7057 x64 and it's buggier than XP graphics driverswise, to be honest. I wouldn't make it my primary OS at all (and I can't believe some people are using it as such).
     
  7. JGZinv

    JGZinv Notebook Consultant

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    What I find worse (much like the old TV tuner mix up) is that none of the resellers have a notice about this on their config page.

    It'd be nice to get a heads up when you're building the thing and at least
    know you may have trouble a head of time.
     
  8. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    Never encountered a single bug or error in any way in regards to gpu drivers. Perhaps it is your particular setup. Extremely stable build.
     
  9. theriko

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    I agree with emike, no problems whatsoever (except with sidebar, but thats unrelated)
     
  10. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

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    Won't this version of Windows 7 be expired sometime in August?
     
  11. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    It will, AFAIK, however the RC will extend until a later date. The 7057 build it toted as RC1 due to its licensing, but only time will tell. Either way, if you're at all like me, you keep everything important on a separate partition and redo the OS every 4-6 months. At that time, you could put the latest build on, likely extending the activation period. There will be other ways also, which I won't mention...
     
  12. Tarentum

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    ^^ rofl

    Yeah, I'm wondering about it as well (M860TU, 9800M GT), as recent drivers have borked up XP as well (and older drivers 178.xx didn't install at all in win7). Card tests fine and is stable with Nov 2008 drivers, so *shrug* no clue.

    I'm wondering about how the Win7 licenses will work as well, but having until August is a pretty good amount of time to test it out/use a free OS.