Hello, I got a sager NP2090 in August and I'm loving it, but can someone help me out with an issue I have in Windows XP. When I drag my windows around on the desktop, it seems as if v-sync is off and I see lots of tearing, even though when I play 3-D games, there is none. Screen tearing is even more noticeable when a window is resized in the horizontal direction. Is it a Windows XP problem or could it be something else. Can someone take their laptop and drag/resize, say their firefox window, and tell me if you get the same results. It also tears when I watch movies with lots of movement. I can't recall that ever happening to me on a desktop.
BTW, in Nvidia Control Panel, Vsync is Forced ON.
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justanormalguy Notebook Consultant
Try using ATI tool and see if you get any tearing or artifacts. Beings it is new you probably got a bad card...
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I have an Nvidia Card (Nvidia M8600 GT). I don't think ATI tools work with Nvidia cards....
As for it being a defective video card, then why does vsync work flawlessly in games... Doesn't make sense. -
justanormalguy Notebook Consultant
ATI tool works with nVidia cards. All you need to do is run the scanner thingy, run it for a few hours and see if you get any artifacts / tearing. If so the card is !@#$ed.
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Can you give me a link. But as I said earlier, ATI tools is 3D and vsync will work fine, its the windows desktop which is 2D has vsync off I don't understand why.
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Sry, for reviving this topic, but I can't seem to find a solution to this. I really need help with this. Please.
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Sounds to me like a driver problem, i would try a few different drivers first before thinking the worst. I don't have this laptop though so I cannot test first hand.
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Ummm... I installed Sager's New driver yesterday, 156.10, and it did not resolve the issue. Then I tried one of the drivers from laptopdriver2go.com (176.xx) and that did not resolve the issue. But as I said earlier, there is no tearing for games. It works just fine, it's the videos that I watch in Windows that give me headaches. I tried using RefreshLock, that didn't help either. I'm 90% sure windows XP did not do that when I first installed it on this computer. I mean I've screwed around with drivers before and I guess I never paid attention to the tearing until recently. BTW, when I go to my display properties, it shows that I have dual screen (even though it's disabled in the NVidia Control Panel). One being my LCD Laptop screen at 1680 x 1050 and the other at 640 x 480. I did try using my VGA out once to my HDTV and it worked. Maybe that's a remnant that was left behind... No idea. But This is when it probably started, not entirely sure though.
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I have the window tearing you mention also in XP. I did not have it in VISTA though. So It`s not you gpu. Because my desktop FX5200 has it also. It might be related to the hdd. Do you have a 7200rpm or a 5400 rpm one ?I have the 5400 rpm one...
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Is the movement of the window slow ? If yes, than its some driver issue. Try using DriverCleaner before you reinstall the driver. Sometimes, left over files cause problems.
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I have a 7200 rpm HDD in my laptop. Vista's desktop is hardware accelerated because it has 3D components (Flip3D) and XP doesn't. That could be why. I don't know what you mean by slow movement, cdahmedeh, I mean windows are responsive when I drag them, it's just that they tear when I move/resize them.
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that sounds like a driver issue to me, just try using driver cleaner before installing the drivers. It should work.
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Just went to 174.16 today, some of the tearing went away. Driver issue,no doubt for me.
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I just want to stay away from Vista, I mean that's one thing that it has over XP, it's Desktop GPU acceleration. Is there a program that does that for XP? I'll Give Driver Cleaner a try. Maybe that will work.
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Have you tried doing a clean install of windows, and then just installing the stock drivers in the correct order. Maybe try that if all else fails =).
Windows XP Desktop Screen Tearing (Vsync)
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