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    Wireless Gaming Mouse

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by dtittel, Jul 31, 2012.

  1. dtittel

    dtittel Notebook Enthusiast

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    I was wondering if anyone has any recommendations on a gaming mouse. I would like one that is designed for palm grip, and it would be awesome if it had a cool design (like LEDs and stuff)
     
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    Razer Mamba
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    Razer Ouroboros
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    Cyborg R.A.T 9
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  3. Seanzky

    Seanzky Notebook Evangelist

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    Check out the accessories section of the forums. There are lots of gaming mice threads there.
     
  4. Zymphad

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    I just use the Performance MX, and know a few other Clevo users who do also.
     
  5. MeNtAl_DaRkNeSs

    MeNtAl_DaRkNeSs Notebook Consultant

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    Hi,
    I use and love my Razer Orochi ;)


    Best Regards to all
     
  6. Kastulu

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    I gave up wireless mouse gaming years ago.. something always happens with the mouse that screws things up.. I got alot of freeze issues with multiple mouse brands and models. Ive since went to high DPI wired mouse and never looked back.. love my Logitech G9 but I think its time to look for a new one but Logitech has never failed me.
     
  7. theriko

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    I have the non-wireless version of the cyborg RAT9 (ie the RAT7) and after 2 years it died on me. Having bought it from ebay in the USA (I'm in England) before the UK release, I didn't think their tech support would be much help, however I called up, they said send it in with proof of purchase (ebay receipt from 2 years and 2 weeks before) and 4 working days later a brand new one arrived on my doorstep - that's pretty good customer service as I see it :)
     
  8. alaskajoel

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    I love my Logitech G700.
     
  9. Kiol

    Kiol Notebook Consultant

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    Same here, and It looks like the Batmobile.

    Though a little bit small for big handed people
     
  10. Alec693

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    Yeap, I use this mouse, it's amazing and has been flawless since day one of purchase. Gaming, media, Photoshop, everything works great with it.
     
  11. Heihachi_1337

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    I've been using the original electric blue Logitech G5 wired laser mouse for years without issues until recently, which is the scroll wheel is just about on its last legs and barely registers. I know you were looking for a wireless solution, but I figured I would throw in my gaming mouse experiences.

    To replace my aging G5, I bought a Logitech G600 MMO mouse. It has a nice feel for someone with large hands.
     
  12. MKEGuy

    MKEGuy Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm glad to find some posts about this mouse already in this thread as its my next purchase to add to my collection of "mices". (yes i know, but do you? :p)

    Also - for those that do have it, do you ever find yourself switching to wired mode for the addtional performance? Just curious.

    Final thought - my extreme apologies for hijacking your thread my friend! Though I suppose you could take this as my vote for the Orochi!!!
     
  13. JMCD23

    JMCD23 Notebook Geek

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    Most wireless mice have a noticeable delay to them. The only ones I've used that haven't are the G700 and Mamba, all others lag to a varying degree. It is something most people don't notice.
     
  14. joluke

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    Will buy one too for Clevo P170EM :D
     
  15. Kiol

    Kiol Notebook Consultant

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    In wireless mode, the mouse goes into some kind of energy saving mode, and it takes a fraction of a second to "wake up" when you move it. Not that much but noticeable.

    Big deal if you play FPS games.

    So yes, I'm always "wired" when playing fast games, unless is some kind of turn based game that doesn't require that much precision.
     
  16. PubFiction

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    I use a G700, the performance MX is not really accurate enough. The cool thing about the G700 is it can act as a wired or wireless mouse. Charge it from the USB port and it sends the signal over USB, unplug it and it goes wireless.

    now what someone really needs to make is wired mice with short cords for laptops
     
  17. Seanzky

    Seanzky Notebook Evangelist

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    There are only two 'cons' to the G700 and without those two it can arguably be called the perfect wireless mouse.

    Cons:
    1. The cable is too stiff and sometimes gives a little resistance to your movement. There are no braided or soft-rubberized/flexible replacement cables available. Simply using a regular micro USB cable that isn't form-fitted to the micro USB receptacle in the mouse would cause that micro USB port to wobble inside and possibly get damaged. Even if one could splice the original cable and mod it with a braided micro USB cable, the lead (the tip/part that goes into the mouse) is still too long and very stiff. So if the mouse is only 5" in length, for example, with the lead it feels like it's 6.5". And once again that lead can obstruct, snag and/or give resistance to whichever direction your moving the mouse.
    2. There is only one battery inside and you will find yourself recharging as often as once a day especially when in max gaming. If you forget to switch profiles and leave it in max gaming, as opposed to normal gaming or just regular use, you'll quickly hate this mouse. Having a double-A battery (AA), and an Eneloop at that, as opposed to a non-replaceable one was a genius move by Logitech. Not only did they pick the battery that's known to be the best at low self-discharge, it's replaceable! The only thing they didn't do right in that area is that there's only one. I've had old (many, many) Logitech mice where it accepts two AA batteries but if you put only one in, it would still work. Logitech could have applied this to the G700 so that the user can choose to have 2 to have longer wireless usage and added weight (similar to other gaming mice with weight systems) or have just 1 battery and it's lighter but has less wireless usage. Personally, I find the mouse light and I would have gladly taken that 2nd AA battery.

    Some say it's an MMO mouse, but I use it for FPS just fine. It's perfect for small to medium hands for palm gripping. Maybe some large hands would find it comfortable for palm grip, too. I used to do claw (I have medium hands) but this is too comfortable for that so I switched to palm. It's taking me a little while to get used to it and it's annoying to seat my hand each time and then take it off again to type, but I'll adjust soon. If you must have a wireless like me, I would recommend the G700, but first really do your research. Weigh your options because if you can find a mouse that can be as responsive as the G700 but at the same time not have the two, and only, flaws the G700 has that would be the king of wireless mice. Easily.

    Oh, and for those who will say "just carry extra batteries". That's not an option for me. My bag with my laptop is already heavy enough. Besides, I don't want to have to worry about keeping all batteries charged and separating discharged batteries from the charged ones in my bag, etc.

    What I do recommend to fellow G700 users though is to get a higher mAH rating NiMH battery. There are plenty, some going as high as 2900mAH. Those will last much longer than the one the G700 came with. The only thing about those batteries are that they aren't low discharge meaning you'll have to be careful about when your mouse sleeps to save battery otherwise the draining might counter some of that high mAH rating, unless of course you use it every day which means the mouse would be on most of the time anyway. To me the perfect batteries for these mice are still Eneloops, but only the new ones (2000mAH).

    There's the old 1000mAH, then there are these:

    Sanyo Eneloop AA 2000mAh NIMH Rechargeable Batteries

    Amazon.com: Sanyo XX Battery Powered by eneloop, 2500mAh typical / 2400 mAh minimum High Capacity, 4 Pack AA Ni-MH Pre-Charged Rechargeable Batteries: Electronics
     
  18. platipi

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    I'd second the G700 recommendation. It's certainly one of the most preferred options out there for wireless gaming. It's even comparable to the best of the wired options out there like the DeathAdder. Its price is fairly decent too at about $70 (with discount). Other wireless mice from Razer would easily cost a lot more. The only con that I can think of is its battery life which could potentially run out in a day of continuous gaming so you'll have to recharge it at night if you game every single day.
     
  19. Mr.Koala

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    Is there any mid-range sensor rechargeable wireless mouse that uses a micro receiver? (By "mid-range" I mean something with tracking performance comparable to my wired G400)

    I used to look at the G700(s) and think "wow, great mouse, I want one." But then I noticed the poor battery life and decided to walk away.


    If a wireless mouse comes with a mid-range sensor it should provide enough tracking performance for me and keep the battery working longer. Unfortunately the best micro receiver wireless mouses I can find beside G700(s) only come with A3050 or PAN3305 sensors. I have one with a A3050, it has a hand detector so there's no wake up lag, and battery life is reasonable (as long as I remember to move my hand away when not using it), but I'd like to have a bump in sensor performance.
     
  20. Yoshigure

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    I recommend Logitech G500 (the new with new design or the old one), I have the old one and i think for now 5700 dpis is enough to play my games.
     
  21. Mr.Koala

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    Isn't the G500 wired?
     
  22. o0phantom0o

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    I use the logitech g700. Fantastic mouse in my opinion. Here are the advantages of this mouse:

    - Nice ergonomic grip.
    -Excellent button placement(has 7 extra buttons besides the usual buttons + wheel).
    -no lag in wireless.
    -micro usb receiver. You will barely notice it once you plug in.
    -Nice battery life. For me, charging for one hour a day or sometimes once in 2 days gets me by.
    -uses standard chargable battery found easily in superstores.
    -Logitech software is topnotch.

    Compared to something like the razer ouroboros, this is a clear winner for notebook users. The razer wireless receiver has a wire of its own, which makes it semi-wireless in my books. Also, while the auroboros looks all futuristic, it is ambidextrous like the lachesis(I own that too). Ambidextrous mice arent the easiest to get used to for someone not used to them. The logitech grip is much better in my opinion. Also the fact that this costs pretty much half of what the ouroboros costs, and you have a clear winner.

    EDIT:
    I decided to add some cons to this list too.
    -the charge and play cable is a bit stiff as someone mentioned. There are threaded cables available from other brands that work. However, the one can comes with the mouse has softened a bit so I do not feel it as obtrusive as originally thought.
    -The mouse is a bit on the heavy side. Took a bit getting used to. After a month or so my hand seems to have gotten used to it though.
    -Battery life depends on what you compare it with. Charging for an hour once a day or once in 2 days is not a problem for me. It might be for you so take this with a grain of salt.

    There you have it. Personally, I think these cons are hardly anything you would lose too much sleep over. For the most part, you get used to the heavier feel and the wire softens up( you are only only going to use it while it charges anyways.). Other mice that have problems like lag on wireless mode or a wired receiver are a total deal breaker for me. This one checks all the right ticks for me.
     
  23. Montage

    Montage Notebook Evangelist

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    I have been using Razer mamba for years now. It has served me well, though I have been using it with the wire (haven't even tested without it :D). It might be a bit over priced, but I really like the ergonomics and build quality of it.
     
  24. kingyr

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    I also own a mamba, with or without cable its exactly the same cant tell the difference apart from the fact it runs out of battery! Also reminded me of a wireless version of the microsoft intellimouse explorer, loved gaming with those :D
     
  25. smellon

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    I received a Logitech Anywhere MX and it's been incredible. I haven't needed a mousepad since I got it.
     
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    Yes, i know that he want wireless gaming mouse but wired is better in my opinion !
     
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    May I remind everybody here that the OP wants a wireless mouse for a notebook. Anything that comes with a big fat charging dock / receiver stand isn't very useful for this purpose.
     
  29. o0phantom0o

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    Its for this very reason that the g700 reigns supreme. All the razor mice are alright, but come with wired docking stations that pretty much make the point of a wireless mouse useless on a notebook.
     
  30. kingyr

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    The OP wanted a wireless gaming mouse he didn't specify docks?

    EDIT** also I'm sure the OP has a mouse by now, seeing as this thread is just over a year old.
     
  31. ETisME

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    got a Razer Ouroboros, pretty good and damn nice design
    mostly use it for wired mode but wireless isn't so bad either. I mainly play Starcraft 2 so my mouse accuracy is really important
     
  32. icehot

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    Unfortunately it looks like this mouse isn't being made anymore. Infact looking at Logitechs site their mice seem quite limited in choice now, they giving up on gaming mice?

    Original razer orochi here... I like it for laptop gaming. I wouldn't upgrade to the 2013 edition, but if their next version comes with BT4 then I might consider it.
     
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    I believe it now comes out as the g700s. It has pretty much the same features except a 8000dpi sensor instead of the 5700dpi sensor the g700 has. It also has a grey printed design on the mouse top which I absolutely did not like. the g700 looks much cleaner imo.
     
  34. platipi

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    Most definitely. Anything above 3000 DPI is overkill, I think. It's really more of a marketing term nowadays.
     
  35. Mr.Koala

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    3000DPI is overkill as well.

    3000DPI means to shift just one pixel on the screen, you need to move the mouse shell by less than 0.01 millimeter. If humans have that level of precision, why do we need robots in PCB factories?

    I have no exact data to determine the maximum DPI a regular human can handle with bare hands, but I believe it's in the hundreds, not thousands.

    It's good to have the controller device performing much more precisely than the controller human hand and enjoy some redundancy though. Improving precision the other way is much more difficult.
     
  36. hexum23

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    I love my g700. Think It has 14 buttons total. It was sort of weird at first, but once you get used to using all of the buttons, you'll want to make use of it in each of your games. I always take time to customize profiles for each game.

    I agree that going that high in dpi starts to get pointless. Don't think I use anything over 2,000 in most situations. However, if you're looking to do some super precise pixel by pixel work in something like photoshop, you can set your mouse speed to a slower setting in windows mouse settings and still have the dpi set to really high in logitech settings, which will help you to make very precise adjustments.
     
  37. Mr.Koala

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    Or get a mouse with lower DPI and set scaling to none.

    I use a 2000DPI wireless mouse for my notebook. While the precision isn't really helpful, I can't find any mouse with lower sensitivity that doesn't come with angle-snapping or sensor sleep.
     
  38. Meaker@Sager

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    The razer orochi is pretty good, it interfaces with the internal bluetooth or is USB and is very compact.
     
  39. valete123

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    I prefer wired mice, simply because I feel they're more responsive although that is most likely psychological. Make sure you try out your mouse at a local retail shop before you get it, to see if you like it!
     
  40. Zymphad

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    They only need two, MX518 and Performance MX or mouses like em, G700/G500 etc. And those two mice alone will beat anything Razer has ever made for reliability, comfort and build quality. Every Razer product I ever bought, broke within a week. 360 controller, DeathAdder mouse, Abyssus. All of them after broken, I took apart and inspected, interior were shocking how poor quality it was. Thin, weak plastic used, and just very very very cheap. Shockingly cheap. Just look inside their 360 controller, it's worse than their mice, it's incredible how cheaply made it is.
     
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    I agree that Razer devices are not the best build quality wise, but what kind of abuse did you do to break them so quickly?
     
  42. Zymphad

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    I didn't. Didn't drop them, or throw them. Razer products are worthless. So bad I didn't bother calling Razer to RMA em, I don't want them replaced.
     
  43. Montage

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    Razer mice are pretty solid. Overpriced, but definitely not worthless. I have had a Copperhead and a Mamba for years, and I've been very satisfied with them.
     
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    Maybe on the reliability side, but I've had a death adder for around 3 years now, and it's fine, and the orochi for 18 months and that's fine too... I've looked at those models and just don't like them, the performance mx isn't a gaming mouse really, it's got low DPI and low polling rate. The reviews on G700 I'm able to find state the reliability is pretty bad with some of the micro switches, and the MX518 is the ugliest thing I've ever seen.... So for features and from my own personal experience I'd say razer mice are the ones to get for gaming...
     
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    i've had the G700 for about a year now and i'm loving it. Incredibly comfortable, convenient, impeccable performance and looks damn good without being flashy/seizure-inducing. It matches my np9370's looks perfectly too which is a plus.

    Regarding the battery life, I don't find myself charging daily, despite daily use of 2-8 hrs, maybe once a week?
     
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    Do you guys know what i could that feels decent for less than $15/£10? I'm gonna get my normal mouse back in a month when i go pick up my stuff across country, but i just want something ok for the next few weeks.
     
  47. Mr.Koala

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    Old Logitech G100?

    Forget the wireless ones, no one within this price range would be decent.
     
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    Same here I love my Orochi, but I also have the R.A.T. 9 too. My Orochi is my portable mouse as the R.A.T. 9 I don't want to be lugging around the charging/dock station.
     
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    Orochi is great. 4k dpi wired, 2k dpi wireless, no dongle, ambidextrous, nice braided usb cable, small and portable with included carrying case, small for use on just about any surface, easy to swap batteries. I have a bunch of mice, this is the one I keep returning to.

    The wake-up delay the poster above mentioned is a pain. I work around it by constantly moving the mouse around in twitchy contexts. Kills the battery fast though, this way.
     
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    Never really noticed that with my non 2013 edition, but for battery life invest in some really high quality batteries.
     
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