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    Worth upgrading i5 4460 to i7 4790k on p750zm with gtx 980m?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by xaqutor, Jul 29, 2018.

  1. xaqutor

    xaqutor Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi guys,

    I can buy brand new i7 4790k online in china for ~1000rmb, and have some relatives that are coming over from china that can bring them over.

    Will I see any improvements while gaming if I upgrade from a i5 4460? My gpu is a gtx 980m.
     
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    yrekabakery Notebook Virtuoso

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    Depends on the game.
     
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    xaqutor Notebook Enthusiast

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    open world rpgs
    mmorpgs
    monster hunter world when it comes out
     
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    yrekabakery Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yeah a faster CPU will definitely help in those type of games.
     
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    Monster Hunter World is incredibly CPU intensive as well as GPU intensive.

    If you can entertain the thought of overclocking the CPU to something conservative it will help you out in that game quite a bit. Well thats just I read in a article earlier today. Its like an RTS in the fashion that even though you dont see the units on screen the CPU is still working to maintain those off screen assets
     
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  6. Danishblunt

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    The game/gametype you listed are mostly suffering from suboptimal code for the most part, even bruteforcing with higher end CPU's such as the I7 won't do you any good.

    As for monster hunter, it is a game that is rather on the lower spectrum. It is also mostly GPU dependant and will run near max settings on your current system. Upgrading the CPU will give you next to no performance increase, as the game would rather bottleneck on the GPU rather than the CPU.
     
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    be aware that the 4790K runs REALLY hot, so a delid is a must. even then, u can expect to run in the range of 4.2-4.5 Ghz, not above...
     
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    Wrong?

    GTX 1080 has trouble maintaining 60FPS on 1440p and is incredibly hard of CPUs.

    He can play it, but he wont be maxing it.
     
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    Absolutely not.
    You're confusing monster hunter world with monster hunter online.

    The main issue with monster hunter online is that it's basicially a terrible port. Even tho it's extremely GPU intensive, it has lots of coding issues where it downs the performance for no reason.

    To illustrate the problem even further, when doing the benchmark tool:
    a 8700K + GTX 1060 desktop OC to 2ghz flat scores around 13.6k points, while my 6700HQ + GTX 980M (1.2ghz) scores 12.3kpoints. Highest CPU usage in the entire time ~35%.

    CPU doesn't matter at all in those games. All that matters is GPU. Capcom promised a way more polished and proper PC port this time, so the performance will be much much better. You can expect GTX 1060 to be near maxed 60FPS gameplay mark.
     
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    Im not talking about Monster Hunter online in the slightest, I haven't delved into that games behavior in the slightest since last I read it never came to the west. Why waste time on it?

    I didnt.

    The recent test illustrated a 1080 not being able to maintain over 60@1440p@Ultra. Im open to the idea of optimizations upon general release but as of now we have the reps stating its hard on CPU's and general public noting its hard on GPU's.

    The only question at the moment is whether one of those settings is a resolution scale and if setting to ultra is forcing internal resolution beyond native desktop resolution. Im guessing this is the case, but until its out in the wild we only have what we have available to us.

    Capcom themselves recommend GTX 1060 for 30FPS.
     
  11. Danishblunt

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    If you talk about the whole incident where FluffyQuack tested the game, that low FPS was caused by volume rendering quality, same crap Mafia 3 has going. It's either going to be fixed, or as the same for mafia 3, everyone simply turns it off.

    Games tend to have 1 setting that ruin the FPS just to justify purchasing a new GPU. In witcher it's hairworks + foilage, in Mafia 3 and Monster Hunter World its the volume rendering BS, In witcher 2 and Human Revolution it's the SSAO, In GTA 5 it's grass quality, Shadows of mordor ambient occlusion (SSAO again) etc.

    I do consider everything maxed out except for 1 setting to be maxed out, I simply refuse to count a setting that is designed to make the game drop in FPS while doing pretty much no difference to the graphics.

    For instance, I play witcher 3 on maxed out with turned off hairworks + foilage modded with cfgs ("medium+ setting"), FPS are in the 70-80s in novigrad and games looks identical to maxed out with hairworks off, while my FPS would be in the 40s with foilage on ultra. GTA 5 also FPS on 120FPS etc.

    Monster hunter World will run maxed out except for 1 setting on a GTX 1060 on 1080p @60FPS+, easily.
     
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    We will see.