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    XP SP3 - 8800M GTX @OC - games problems

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by oile, May 20, 2008.

  1. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi all,
    I would know if you people are experiencing crashes like this http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/8781/gridcrashma7.jpg while playing some games with 8800M GTX @ 640 1560 1000 on XP...
    I'm using 175.75 and this problem happens very often in Crysis and aboveall in Race Driver GRID Demo.
    I have a Clevo M570RU but all the guys with a 8800M GTX OC and these games could help me..
    Thanks
     
    oile, May 20, 2008
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    heh well it is quite a high overclock. I thought 600-1450-900 was stock - safe overclock. Maybe try that one?
     
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    Try running the ATI tool OC artifact check for a few hours and see if it detects them. If it does your OC is too high and you need to reduce it.
     
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  4. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    yes, It's a little too high but I've just did it all before.
    I am artifact free to 625 1550 949 and games crash althought...(Ati tool setted to less OC)
    With 600 1498 945 still crashes but after a longer time..
    I have to go down to 599 1495 939 to not have crashes for one hour..
    I would like to know if with your frequencies you have some problems..
    Thx
     
    oile, May 20, 2008
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  5. eleron911

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    Dude, it is way to high...even Atitool isn`t perfect...
    I sugest you don`t go higher than 600/1500/950 ...
    Also check your temps, I bet you are close to a toaster oven :D
     
    eleron911, May 20, 2008
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    Why the hell would you want to overclock a powerful card like the 8800GTX?
     
    Deathwinger, May 20, 2008
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    To squeeze even more power out of it...
     
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  8. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    Also with 600/1500/950 I have crashes...My max temp (after hours of gaming) is 75°C..
    The strange thing is that under vista seems not to crash but i hate that OS..
    So this is why I'd like to know if you have never experienced crashes like this..
    I precisate that I've all component's driver up to date.Thx
     
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  9. oile

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    Any answer? Did you try Race Driver GRID Demo??
     
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  10. eleron911

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    A lot of people play GRID demo at 600/1500/900 , artefact free. Try that for an hour or so, if you get artefacting at these settings, your card may already be damaged...
    One thing to also try,stock speeds. If that gives you artefacting also, then it`s a gonner...
     
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  11. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    I just tried it before and yes,is artifact free for an hour or so...But how do you explain that running Vista there aren't problems?? I want to discover if is a problem of my XP (if so formatting....) or also other people with their custom OC have problems.. because it doesn't seem so
     
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  12. eleron911

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    Artefact free for an hour ? and Vista works perfectly at stock or at those OCing settings?
     
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  13. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    Vista seems to work with the higher OC but there is a FPS drop relating to XP.
     
    oile, May 20, 2008
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  14. eleron911

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    This is not uncommon . Vista apparently support higher OCing, as many users, including Magnus72 concluded.
    If it works perfectly in Vista and max temp is 75, why bother with XP ? There are probably numerous causes, but heat would be the most rational one.
     
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  15. oile

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    Because there is a lot of FPS drop..I didn't use Fraps but is noticeble
     
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    Well, my sugestion is don`t bother with XP if it works in Vista. They are 2 different OS , each with their own little issues,and since Vista works,stick with it.
    Also, artefacting might be due to the driver, remember, some drivers OC better than others. You are using one type of driver for Vista and another for Xp.
    Get a different one for XP, like the 175.70 from laptopvideo2go and see if it helps.
     
    eleron911, May 20, 2008
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  17. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    used 175.70 too.I used all the driver released at laptopvideo2go...
    Now 175.75 both on XP and Vista.
    Excuse me,may I ask you if you have n 8800M and Race Driver GRID?
     
    oile, May 20, 2008
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  18. eleron911

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    I don`t have the 8800M GTX, but Nirvana0001 has it. PM him, he`s got his card at 600/1500/1000 I think and he has no artefacting in GRID...
     
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  19. Nirvana

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    what tool do you use for OC? ATI tool? I don't have artifact at all.
     
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  20. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    I am artifact free to 625 1540 949. I oc flashing or using ntune..
    I moved the switch of ATi tool artifact scanning to "less overclock" to be more accurate.
    If you have XP SP3 could you play race driver grid?

    PS I see from your signature that you overclocked your t8300 HOW????
     
    oile, May 20, 2008
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  21. Nirvana

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  22. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    Excuse me you have a clevo M570RU,right? subvendor fo the 8800M ??
    1558???
     
    oile, May 20, 2008
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  23. Nirvana

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    what are you talking about?
     
    Nirvana, May 20, 2008
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  24. eleron911

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    @Nirvana has an M570RU-U, with an 8800M GTX,correct.
    I don`t know what the 1558 stands for :)
     
    eleron911, May 20, 2008
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  25. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    Could you post an image from GPU-Z 0.2.1?? it's to see if it is exactly the same card with the same vbios.

    PS:nirvana I love you and audigy for that USEFULLL Post
     

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  26. Nirvana

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    oh no!!! seems like you have a better card than I do!!
     

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  27. oile

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    Ok,it's the same! Thanks
    So you confirm no problems on XP SP3 32-bit?? If so it must be a problem of OS
     
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  28. Nirvana

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    try bios OC
     
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  29. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    I always use flashing OC, with 175.75 i can use also ntune.
    So confirm XP Service Pack 3 32-bit??
     
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  30. Nirvana

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    yes it is XP Service Pack 3 32-bit
     
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    :( also the CPU oc doesn't work on XP: any frequency crash the system after few seconds of GRID.. :confused:
    In Vista 32-bit works it all GPU & CPU OC..
    What do you suggest to do? formatting will resolve the problem or not?
     
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  32. Nirvana

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    if the OC works fine for other games, keep it and wait for the full version of GRID. not worth of formatting for a demo.
     
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  33. Audigy

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    1558 is the Vendor ID of the card.

    Each vendor have it´s own Vendor ID. So 1558 stands for Clevo/Kapoc.

    You can search Vendor IDs here: http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=1378

    ;)
     
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  34. oile

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    Right, Audigy how much can I thank you for the FSB OC?
    However the problem is not only in GRID but also in crysis less frequently..
     
    oile, May 21, 2008
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    Formatted and the problem is still here..help
    Also the FSB CPU OC doesn't work..
     
    oile, May 21, 2008
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    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    oile, May 21, 2008
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  37. Nirvana

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    are you saying that you can OC both in vista?
     
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  38. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes...not at max but T9300 @ 2.8 and GPU at 600 1500 950...
    It's not a great consolation but is important for me that I'm not the only one with that error..

    So may i ask you to increase a lot GPU speed (645 1000) to test errors? the temperatures in our M570RU are safe..
     
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  39. Nirvana

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    um....i think i am gonna stick with 600/950.
     
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    Because I think that with that frequencies the crash happens quite immediatly without risks
     
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    Dude, if you are experiencing artefacting that`s a sign the card will wear off. You must lay off the OCing or you will sure as hell see it burn itself off.
     
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  42. Nirvana

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    it doesn't matter how high can mine go, every card has different OC abilities. just because some can climb up to 700/1100 doesn't mean yours can do the same. if you are experiencing artifacting, you reached your limit.
     
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    Also as someone else said drivers allows for different clocks. Although I have the XPS M1730 but with 175.12 I can run artifact free in ATI tool with clocks at 625/1550/950 and if I have the same clocks with 174.82 for instance I get artifacts in ATI tool. Better to keep it safe at 600/1500/950 actually. Or if you really want the shaders at 1550 with Ntune then increase the core to only 612 and you´ll get shaders at 1550.
     
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