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    XP or Vista ..

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Lyminya, May 21, 2008.

  1. Lyminya

    Lyminya Notebook Enthusiast

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    so .. from what I've read it seems like Windows XP makes the SAGER NP9262 laptop work faster and better?

    But again, if you have more then 4GB ram every site you try to buy a computer for tells you that you need Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit?

    I've been arguing a lot about this with my finance and we can't come to an agreements lol .. so anyone who knows ? what I should go for?

    ps. yes, going to max on everything I can get on the Sager hehe

    Best regards Simon!
     
  2. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    Get XP...........

    Few apps utilize all of 4GB anyways
     
  3. pukemon

    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    xp will probably serve you better. you didn't mention anything that 64 bits would help you with so xp is probably your better choice.
     
  4. kimnicho

    kimnicho Notebook Evangelist

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    I have both, one on each laptop. My husband likes Vista but I did not. My main pet peeve was that there is no automatic "restore point" in Vista and it's a memory hog...I am sticking to XP myself. But I also don't like the New Word so maybe it's just me? LOL
     
  5. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    i have a question, does DX10 looks much better than DX9 in real life?
     
  6. Lyminya

    Lyminya Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well, I'll be using the laptop for video, and photo editing and web design and such things + a little gaming so idk .. guess thats why I'm asking here :p

    dunno if Photoshop CS3 and Sony Vegas and stuff uses 32 or 62 bit hehe
     
  7. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    not that much + now XP has SP3, which supports dx10 :D
     
  8. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    I just did a little google about it, can't really find anything useful. are they gonna release it?
     
  9. Lyminya

    Lyminya Notebook Enthusiast

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    From what I heard Vista doesn't have the drivers for SIL ? :/
     
  10. Doodles

    Doodles Starving Student

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    i assume u mean SLI, and yes they do, SLI in laptops in unstable in general so many variants with different games and programs. I personally say Vista since its natively 64 bit and DX10... its not just a patch :p, but thats putting things VERY simplistically. Theres huge arguments about this in the Windows forum if you want a real battle! I have the 9262 with Vista.Ult.x64, runs faster than my desktop using XP.... :-/ personal preference baby!
     
  11. Sotsu

    Sotsu Notebook Guru

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    Really now? I've heard nothing of this. I knew there were groups working on DX10 hacks for XP but now it's officially supported?

    Intriguing.

    As to the ram, from everything I've read XP32'll only recognize around 3.5 of the 4 gigs of RAM.
     
  12. surfasb

    surfasb Titles Shmm-itles

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    This is not true. Microsoft has previously said there are no plans to bring DX10 to XP.

    Unofficially, there are several hacks that unlock or digg up DX10 components that are inside XP.
     
  13. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    I tried DX10 hack, but then my team speak overlay won't work
     
  14. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    well,this is mine source ;)
     
  15. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

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    if you have XP can you still play games in DirectX 10?
     
  16. n640nec

    n640nec Notebook Consultant

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    Unless you're running proprietary software or high-end software that doesn't have specific support for VISTA, then I don't really see any problems running VISTA with a new laptop or desktop.

    VISTA uses a bit more memory, but since you're maxing out the system I don't see any problems running VISTA. If you're expecting to utilize all 4 GB of memory, then you will want to run the 64 bit of either OS versions.

    I'm running VISTA 32-bit for my personal laptop and have no problems with anything I have to do (gaming, Citrix access, printing, etc). On my desktop, I was able to load drivers for my RAID configuration with the USB thumb drive because VISTA supports it. Vista searches for programs much more conveniently than XP.

    All-in-all, I haven't been disappointed with VISTA. I have not performed any benchmark utility test so I can't say if it's that much slower than XP. It doesn't FEEL that bad just from looking at it boot and run programs (similiar to the "butt dyno" that folks use to express if their car is faster or slower with a CAI installed).

    Just saying that VISTA is OK to use for personal home systems if you are purchasing a new system today with 2 GB to 4 GB or more memory. I have no issues with it being unstable. If you're tweaking and hacking the OS & drivers then maybe VISTA isn't as seasoned as XP right now.
     
  17. ronaldheld

    ronaldheld Notebook Deity

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    Don't you take a performance hit with Vista(32 or 64 bit)?
     
  18. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

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    Better you get Vista bro. It's improved and better than ever.

    With XP, you're just gonna have to hack and possible screw up your computer to get the level of performance you want with those creative suite tools.

    And I don't know what performance hit or issues they are talking about. I can run vista much more quickly on 800MB of ram than XP could. So you are good with 4GB man.
     
  19. Lyminya

    Lyminya Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sweet :) Looks like its going more and more over to Vista anyhow. (diver and stuff) ><
     
  20. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    If you`re getting 4 Gb, I sugest Vista x64. Much better and reliable than XP.
    I use XP mainly because of gaming issues, but I still have lots of errors and issues with it.
    In vista, the only problems I had were some incompatibilities with older software.
    All in all, SP1 made terrific improvements for Vista.
     
  21. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That would appear to be the case, provided you're sophisticated enough to manipulate _Vista, extract the relevant files, and install them alongside XP, as the OP in this post from PROnetworks claims.

    Then, there's this rather long discussion from Technospot.net discussing another hack that, apparently, is not working out so well; the last post here is from today, so the posts are fresh, for whatever they're worth. N.B., the Alky Project mentioned on the lead article seems to have closed up shop, and moved DX10-related stuff to a very sparse wiki, dxten.com.

    On the strength of these, I'd say that things are still only at the "apparently" stage, not the "yes" stage.
     
  22. surfasb

    surfasb Titles Shmm-itles

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    There are really few reasons not to go with Vista. It is a more stable and more reliable operating system.

    Theoretically, yes. Gaming applications are the most noticable, along with systems below Vista's minimum requirements.

    In most case, you will not notice the difference. For example, reformatting, Vista is much faster. One, you don't need to install friggin Sata drivers on a floppy or slip stream them into the installation. Two, Vista's kernel is far more reliable than XPs, meaning the system is far likely to stay stable after an application crashes. Vista is also harder for malicious software to take control of.

    While yes, all the benchmarks well point to XP, Vista brings benefits besides benchmarks. Having to gather less drivers to install, greater security against malicious threats, far more sophisticated memory management and also a more reliable sleep and hibernation mode brings benefits that no gaming benchmark can measure.