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    XR5 Now has Penryn? What about the 9262?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Larry@LPC-Digital, Feb 15, 2008.

  1. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    I'll just say it before a reseller spams there we don't know message. The trend seems to be other resellers get their upgrades or updates before sager officially puts them out so I would say it might be another week or two before you see them offered at xotic or powernotebooks.
     
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    Aryantes Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Seems PC Microworks always tries to be the first to offer the newest technology, maybe to try to get ahead with pre-orders?

    I'm sure the official announcements will come soon.
     
  4. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    Agreed. But since they are advertising it now do you think it will work with the present Clevo motherboard of the 9262 and XR5? I hope so. Justin, Donald would you chime in on this?
     
  5. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    Aryantes, they don't get ahead of anyone, as they still depend on OEMs. They just put the name there, so they are the first.
     
  6. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Justin or Donald anything on this yet? Or anyone else in the Clevo know?
     
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    Charr Notebook Deity

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    Chances are the Wolfdale won't work without a BIOS update, so I really wouldn't get my hopes up yet. I would wait for the word from Clevo before coming to any conclusions.
     
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    cyberanto Notebook Guru

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    Has anybody tried to use a Yorkfield (45nm) QX9650 with the Clevo D901C or its children (sager 9262 etc). If this can be made to work, it would be a deciding factor for me to buy one of these. Any soul out there who is/was willing to take the risk :)

    According to the wikipedia (...)

    " The currently released Yorkfield XE model QX9650 (45nm with 1333fsb) currently has limited chipset compatibility - with only X38, P35 and some high-performance 975X and P965 motherboards being compatible. BIOS updates are gradually being released to provide support for the new penryn technology."

    The Clevos motherboard:

    Core Logic Intel® P965 + ICH8

    Speculation: May not be recognized properly by the BIOS but still work.
     
  9. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    With all due respect to PCMicroworks (and everyone who owns/has owned one of their systems) and with all due regard for the fact that, despite what I am going to say below, PCMicroworks does seem to know what they're doing as I have yet to see widespread postings complaining that they get too far ahead of official Clevo policy, however, here it is:

    Anyone recall the hoo-ha over first putting quad-cores into the 9260? PCMicroworks (and, I believe, Eurocom) started offering systems with quad-core before Clevo officially introduced support for quad-cores, and notwithstanding a statement from Clevo (made before they officially began supporting quad-cores in the 9260) that they would not support any 9260 on which a quad-core had been installed and that such installation would void any warranty Clevo might have given (which typically runs to the reseller/OEM, not to the final customer).

    PCMicroworks does seem to have really big technical cojones; however, they are a loose cannon in this regard insofar as they seem to be developing the habit of jumping the gun on changes and updates in Clevo's pipeline.

    Since Clevo did ultimately come out with support for quadcores, and since the PCMicroworks 9260's that were jury-rigged with quadcores prior to Clevo's official launch of support don't seem to have blown up en-masse, it seems to be the case that PCMicroworks wasn't off the reservation, but was merely jumping the gun - in essence, they were taking what would be a beta or pre-RTM version in the software world, and offering it as the final retail version.

    Thus, if you like getting ahead of even the bleeding edge of tech advances (that would be, what, the plasma edge??), jump on the PCMW offering; just keep in mind (as we all learned to our dismay during the 8800M upgrade sc**w-up) when you play this far out ahead of the curve, the question isn't whether you'll be bled, but when (and, I suppose, how much :D ).

    Otherwise, if you like knowing that Clevo/Sager have put a new system through enough of a shake-down cruise that they're willing to publicly put their names behind it, then just be patient, in due time, Clevo/Sager will have a Penryn offering out.
     
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    Zelig96 Notebook Guru

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    I think the QX9650 was a power rating of 130W, which exceeds the Clevo D901C's spec.

    I think the 95W Q9450/Q9550 will be the best hope for a Yorkfield processor in the D901C.
     
  11. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Yes this is true. I am hoping for the Q955O, seems like this should work with a bios update, that is I hope.

    Model Q9550
    Quad Core
    CPU Speed 2.83 GHz
    Bus Speed 1333 MHz
    Bus/Core Ratio 8.5
    L2 Cache Size 12 MB
    L2 Cache Speed 2.83 GHz
    Socket LGA775 (Socket 775/T)
    Manufacturing Technology 45 nm
    Core Stepping C1
    Thermal Design Power 95W
    Thermal Specification 71.4°C
    Core Voltage 0.85V – 1.3625V
    Supported Features Enhanced Halt State (C1E)
    Enhanced Intel Speedstep® Technology
    Execute Disable Bit 1
    Intel® EM64T 2
    Intel® Thermal Monitor 2
    Intel® Virtualization Technology
     
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    I don't mean they get it first or anything like that, they just like to advertise that its available, earlier than everybody else, before any official announcements.

    And although I have no first hand experience with PC Microworks or anyone who works there, it just seems like a not-so-good way to try to get the first batch of preorders. They also come prepared to deliver disappointment IF they have to say there's a delay or it will not work.


    I hope to see some benchmarks showing improvements of the newer penryns in our laptops though.