XoticPC?

I know they're a reputable seller, but do they just buy from Sager/Clevo or do they buy the frame and assemble it themselves. I noticed that Mythlogic offered 1600x900 screens and that they assemble it personally, but Xotic doesn't offer those screens.

Value vs. resolution? Is 1366 x 768 alright for 15?

 

Nowadays, many opt for the 1920x1080 resolution. Frankly, the 1366x768 is quite small for a 15".

 

We offer the 1600x900 as its a nice half-way res in-between the 1366x768 and the 1920x1080 which some people especially on the optimus laptops is too much for the mid-range graphics cards, so they can still have a decent native resolution while being able to maintain some performance.

 

We can get the 1600x900 if you are interested in that, no problem at all. Most don't get it since it is so close in price to the FHD. Best to go FHD IMO.

If we can answer any questions for you please feel free to ask any of our sales reps or PM me direct.

 

By close in price do you mean $65 or $190? I was thinking the same thing, that 1920x1080 will be excessive if I plan on using the laptop for some gaming, and I'd prefer using native resolution.

 

Meaning the 1600x900 is maybe $50-$75 cheaper then the Full HD. From a future resale perspective it would be better to go with the FHD also. You can always increase the DPI or play around with other settings to make items look larger on the FHD.

If you have your mind set on 1600x900 we can get it for you if you would like.

 

Oh wow, I can't believe I forgot. This is regarding the NP5160.

Also what do you mean by play around with the DPI? Scaling or density? I'm mainly concerned about how it will negatively impact gaming performance.

 

You can increase the DPI to make items look larger on your screen if the FHD Resolution is too small for you on the screen. As for gaming performance you would not notice much "real world" difference in performance between a HD+ and FHD Screen.

 

Eh, when I went from 1280x1024 to 1920x1080 I noticed pretty big dips in most games. This was on my last desktop, though perhaps it was simply the lack of VRAM. In any case I'm a bit worried about the performance becoming more and more GPU dependent as resolution increases.

 

If you are planning on getting an SB puter, then you will sooner be bottlenecked by your gpu choice, rather than cpu.

Edit: I should add that this applies if your main intent is gaming.

 

Geoxile, do the math.... 1920x1080 is just about double the pixels of 1280x1024... Basically like gaming on both screens of a dual screen setup...

 

Which really doesn't say much about actual performance ingame. Resolution will just be 2560x1024.

And Madkid. That's exactly my point... Where did I say I was worried about the CPU?

 

Chill. You said you are worried about performance being dependent on gpu as resolution increases, so I confirmed your worries, with the cpu point as additional information. Take it or leave it.

 

How does that not say much about performance in game............

What do you think your GPU is doing except coloring pixels...
More pixels more work...

Why do you think even an older card can run minimum resolution on high details.

Time per calculation vs number of calculations is the sliding scale your dealing with here.

 

I'm saying your example doesn't serve to clarify anything. I'm well aware I'll get worse performance, I'm just wondering to what degree.

 

That's a 30% increase in pixels to render.

A huge deal for 128-bit chips.

A large degree. It's hard to quantify out of thin air, though.

 

Is 1366x768 really that bad for 15.6"? I mean, would it be a bother for daily things, browsing and light work (Powerpoint, excel, word, etc) and maybe some media work like PS or Paint.NET? It'll probably be fine for gaming.

 

There would be a difference but not a huge difference when you are taking real world frames in game play on the HD+ compared to FHD.

 

Depends on what you like, really. My XPS m1530 has 1680x1050 and I feel like that's pretty cramped after using 1920x1080 on my desktop. I've used the 1366x768 resolution on friends' laptops and it's just way too much vertical and horizontal scrolling. I like being able to snap a window in Win7 so that it automatically uses half the screen (so I can have two side by side when I'm not dual (or quad) monitoring like I have on my desktop. You get added workspace without added screen size.

 

A statement like that needs to be backed up with solid numbers. I found some. And these are from the 280M and 285M. The difference will be even more pronounced, on a weakish GPU like the GT 540M.

 

I think I'll just go with the stock 1366x768

I doubt I'll particularly mind it

 

honestly i don't see what's the problem for the 1920x1080 panel.

you can adjust the game resolution to whatever resolution lower than the 1080.

 

I refused to get anything lower than 1920x1080 and that's only because 1920x1200 is no longer available, but that's because I usually like the option of having a RDP window open at a decent size with a text pad or visual studio screen vertically down the right at a workable size...

For gaming, lowering the resolution makes it blurry because it has to decide which two pixels next to each other should be which color.

 

This, it's terrible and I really can't stand it. I'd rather go with the lesser resolution for better sharpness and performance.

Actually, how is the regular 1080p panel option. It's tempting. Though besides gaming, the idea of battery life comes to mind.

 

I just had to correct the spelling mistakes in my original post after seeing them quoted and bolded

 

1 thing to keep in mind is that text can get pretty hard to read text at 1080p. One game I play on my 37" 1080p tv (via HDMI) has font that's impossible to read and if you adjust the font in-game very much it overlaps making it worse. If you change to a non-native resolution it becomes blurry (as someone said.)

Yes you can change the DPI but it only changes certain things like font sizes in certain applications. Personally I have not been impressed with 1080p in general although my laptop screen looks great.

I find that my native 1366x768 tv looks much cleaner than 1920x1080 to me when watching Blu-ray as well since 1080p resolutions can look quite grainy if you sit closer.

That said, my 8130 doesn't even bat an eye when playing FPS games on either the laptop display or the HDTV although, as someone pointed out, if you are running an older GPU you might notice a difference. Hopefully this will all give you some food for thought when considering which screen you want.

 

Well...I ordered it with the 1080p panel from xoticpc but I may cancel or change the order. For other reasons besides this, but thanks

 

If you decide to change you can email the change over so you keep your spot inline. If I can help with anything please let me know!