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    XoticPC/PowerNotebooks vs. PC Microworks 1 year Warrantee

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Dreidel, Jul 4, 2008.

  1. Dreidel

    Dreidel Notebook Evangelist

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    PowerNotebooks/XoticPC both offer 3-Year Labor 1-Year Parts Standard Warrante. On PC Microworks they offer a Standard Limited 1 Year Warrantee.

    Any ideas why PCMW is "Limited" and PowerNotebooks/XoticPC are not? Also, what may the difference be between these two warrantees besides the fact that PowerNotebooks/XoticPC offer an extended labor warrantee?

    edit: checked PCMW's warrantee link and it states nothing about the 1 year warrantee
     
  2. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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  3. Dreidel

    Dreidel Notebook Evangelist

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    thanks nirvana
     
  4. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    PCMW's website doesn't say anything about the 1-year standard "limited" warranty - I wonder if that makes the "limitation" invalid under applicable federal/state warranty law?
     
  5. Heliosvector

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    you are a law student, arent you shyster. you sound way too much like my family. (they lawyers)
     
  6. Nirvana

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    ^^and obviously so much better than the other one we had here previously
     
  7. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Oh, even worse than that, I'm afraid. ;)
     
  8. Heliosvector

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    how bad can it be? a judge? ^_^
     
  9. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    :laugh:

    No (I only wish); I've been out of law school for about 8 years now and practice with a firm.
     
  10. Heliosvector

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    may i ask if you have done any electronic forensics?
     
  11. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    No, not really, just a bit of poking around under the hood of various things out of personal curiosity (I got started because I got sick and tired of _Sony's fetishistic approach to supposedly "proprietary" secrets, like the pointless obfuscation of the factory restore image contained on the factory recovery CDs I got with my vaio).

    It's amazing the sort of rubbish you find in things such as a lot of Microsoft's dlls - one of the dlls for media player contains several kilobytes of plain-text code that is all commented out because, as one of the comments states, the MS coders couldn't get that particular code section to work in time for the release of the relevant version of media player. That little goodie wasn't something that took any particular skill - I found it just by opening dlls up in notepad (or wordpad if the file's too big) and slowly scrolling through the resulting text (most of which is gibberish because it's really binary code, not plain text code). There are also utilities out there that will extract a lot of information from the PE structure used in most Win executables and dlls.
     
  12. sujinge9

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    lol, I bet you'd need the patience of a lawyer developed from reading thousands of pages of briefs and stuff to do that.
     
  13. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That probably helped, but the biggest goad was simply the sheer perversity of _Sony (and Microsoft) for ineptly trying to hide much that really didn't need hiding - in many cases, if I could have learned what I wanted to know without too much trouble, I would have given up and gone onto something else more interesting, like working out various combinatrics for sorting my sock-drawers in different ways.
     
  14. eleron911

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    Again, I will chime in and advise anyone buying an expensive laptop to get at least a 2 year warranty.
     
  15. sujinge9

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    lol,I'm sure theres lots of much better things to do such as gaming... wait do you have a clevo? Its not in your sig...

    @nivania
    So is there any real differences between the two limited warranties, because the sager one sounds pretty much like every other limited warranty out there.
     
  16. Shyster1

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    Sadly, not yet - fate keeps throwing perverse little roadblocks in the way. At the mo' I'm still working on a 5 y.o. (almost 6 y.o. now) _Sony vaio Z1A1 - the one in my sig.
     
  17. sujinge9

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    Ah, well I suppose you really can't do anything with 1.3 gerbilhertz can you? Oh well, at least you use it to inform us with your all encompassing knowledge of electronics (...and economics... and politics... anything that ends with -ics...)
     
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