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    Yay! viva Eurocom!!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by MegaBUD, Jan 23, 2008.

  1. MegaBUD

    MegaBUD Notebook Evangelist

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    2nd LCD and yes... this one have a dead pixel!!! yay im so happy!

    look like im going to have a desktop and a cheap acer laptop very soon...

    but first i have to wait and see what eurocom will say about that...

    I cant belive it happen again... this time is in the middle right part of the LCD...

    I guess im the most unlucky guy here... 2 in 2! great score... i wasted 15days for the same result... the worst part in that is i took only 15sec to find it...
     
  2. Malignant

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    well before you send it off can you list lcd EDID?
     
  3. Malignant

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    and it is the same screen as before?
     
  4. MegaBUD

    MegaBUD Notebook Evangelist

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    Well pretty much... but this time the bottom corner are black... and theres a dead pixel... god hate me...
     
  5. Malignant

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    really eww.. whats the hardware id?
     
  6. MegaBUD

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    give me the program name to find it... and ill tell you
     
  7. Malignant

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    you can just look at device manager and click monitor then right click properties on "plug in play monitor" then click details tab. should be there.
     
  8. bhattsan

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    That's a pity....also, you could use everest to find monitor id.
     
  9. Gophn

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    dang dude... that sucks.... but not the worse.

    a few other members beat the odds with up to 4 LCD replacements... due to dead pixels..

    my friend was 4 for 4 with a Pro-Star notebook... although I suspect that they swapped the unit once for a new one, and the previous back ... we saw a dead pixel on the 3rd unit in the same place as the 1st... LOL.
     
  10. MegaBUD

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    so what i should try again and send back the unit... wait another 2week... god i dont want to do that... i was playing crysis ... this game is so fun...

    display lpl0000 5&170eeead&o&000001 and bla bla bla
     
  11. MegaBUD

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    ill wait tommorow and see what mister eurocom himself will say... if i have to send back the unit and wait 2week... i guess ill go with a refund and buy somewhere else who can give me a perfect machine... what eurocom wasnt able to give up to now
     
  12. MegaBUD

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    everest say its a LPL0000 i have no idea what this model is... probably a crappy lcd
     
  13. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    Well, IF you dont get a palatable response, just return the dang laptop and get from Xotic, even if u have to pay extra for shipping 2 Canada. Check if Eurocom charges 15% restocking fee...
     
  14. MegaBUD

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    HAHAHA im in canada... restocking fees are illegal
     
  15. Malignant

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    does your LPL0000 have sparklies or graininess ?
     
  16. MegaBUD

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    no... just both corner at the bottom are black... and a dead pixel... the machine is ok... but i dont want something broken...
     
  17. ralphfx

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    I'm going to get my 4th M570RU within reasonable time. I now have my third one; 2 dead pixels.. My reseller agreed that I can keep this one untill he has one with no dead pixels, so it can be replaced within a week or so. Unfortunately that's what he said the last time too... But he said he wanted to try one more time to get me a good one. Positive side of the story is that I will get the new model (M570RU-U) this time.

    My opinion:

    MegaBUD, if you want a nice laptop, don't go and buy an Acer.. I asked Justin from Xoticpc about the dead pixels and he said they had very few of them. So maybe it depends on your reseller (who might just get dead pixel units because his supplier sells the notebooks too, including dead pixel warranty!). The M570RU is a great laptop and I wouldn't want to trade the portability + power for a cheap laptop and a desktop you don't carry around...
     
  18. Gophn

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    Now thats a very good outlook to have. :)
     
  19. MegaBUD

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    I like this machine... but god... a dead pixel is killing me... and im afraid that eurocom will give me another used LCD or some crap... they dont give a ****... they just want me to stfu... proof im still waiting for an email... no awnser...

    he told me he looked at it... god... 15sec and i found it... anyway if i have no awnser today ill call VISA and cancel everything and maybe see what xotic can do for me...
     
  20. Cookie

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    I've heard lots of crap about Eurocom having problems with the LCDs? maybe I shouldn't order from them after all.
     
  21. Mecha

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    my 5792 i just sent back to Sager for a CPU upgrade and case upgrade to the 5793 had Zero dead pixels.

    crossing my fingers that i get one back with Zero.
     
  22. naticus

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    man that really sucks megabud! HAve you heard anything about the fan control firmware at all?
     
  23. Vedya

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    Why? You can just dload from sager directly...
     
  24. Gophn

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    yup, fan toggle is now public for everyone. :)
     
  25. MegaBUD

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    I talk with Mr eurocom himself... on the phone... hes sending me another LCD panel and ill change it myself or ill ask another technician here... last try... after that its refund... and probably mail justin at xotic see if he can do better... if not... going back to desktop...

    You can buy at eurocom... maybe i was just the unlucky one... or like he said "maybe i have very good eyes" anyway this way i can keep my laptop and just change the lcd later... oh and it wont void my warranty... and hes sending me the complete instruction...
     
  26. Malignant

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    nice hopefully my lcd wont suck
     
  27. MegaBUD

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    Well most ppl have some but dont see them... for me... i saw them and i hate them... and that was my first request... a perfect LCD... and they told me that it would be perfect... no overheating... no hardware problem... AND NO DEAD PIXEL! ahhhhhhhhhhh i want my mom :( ill call her later
     
  28. naticus

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    well I downoloaded the fan control fmrware and burned it let it install then i turned off like it said, but I guess because Eurocom m571ru already has a hotkey for F1 (turns touchpad on/off) the firmware update didnt work. SHould I download the Sager hotkey instead of the Eurocom one? :confused:
     
  29. ralphfx

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    nauticus:

    it is fn+1

    NOT fn+F1

    And for the other fan option it is fn+3

    Hope it helps
     
  30. naticus

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    LOL yes this helps TREMENDOUSLY ! funny little things we overlook! Thanks bud! :)
     
  31. ralphfx

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    welcome :D
     
  32. Verbatum

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    Mega... You’re just like a buddy of mine. He got a new unit and everything about it was great but he kept going on and on about this horrendous dead pixel he had. I never heard the end of hic complaining about it. One day he lends me his laptop and I use it for about 2 days and don't even think about the pixel issue he went on about. I talk to him on the phone and he asks me how I like his dead pixel. I have not even noticed it. I ask him were it is and he tells me to the pixel where it is... i can’t see it. I run a program on his machine he tells me to run that helps find dead pixels and it still took me 10 mins to find the stupid thing! Bottom line.. In a WUXGA display one dead pixel is almost impossible to see... unless you spend all your time looking for it!

    Get a hobby! lol.. Kidding about the hobby. maybe your just consumed with dead pixels!
     
  33. MegaBUD

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    Well... i saw it... and i really dont want to see it... when im playing game its ok... but when im on internet... like here... i can see it... and i hate the feeling of having something broken...
     
  34. Shyster1

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    That's perfectly understandable, it's like the difference between buying a Hyundai and a Rolls Royce - finding a scratch on the Hyundai right after you drive off the lot will annoy you, and you might try to get some satisfaction once or twice, but eventually you'll just shrug it off; on the Rolls, though, it'll eat your guts out until it gets repaired to your satisfaction (at least that's my guess, I'd never buy the first, and I'll never be able to buy the second :cry: ).
     
  35. MegaBUD

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    a 2500$ laptop have to be perfect...
     
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    No such animal. They all have flaws. They may FUNCTION perfectly, which is about all you can really hope for. But, they all have flaws.
     
  37. MegaBUD

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    lol... suck to be you
     
  38. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    Why? He's right. I always though that this laptop is perfect, but after seeing what a M17x can hold in the same size I changed my mind.