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    Yorkfield Vs Penryn (Q9650 Vs QX9300)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Travesty, May 22, 2009.

  1. Travesty

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    I have a 9262 with a Yorkfield Q9650 Core 2 Quad (3ghz). It also has SLI and 3 HDDs in RAID 0.

    I'm considering buying an additional laptop, also with SLI and RAID 0, but the new system comes with Penryn CPUs QX9300 Quad (2.66ghz) or X9100 DUO (2.93ghz).

    Questions:

    • Besides clock speeds and power requirements, what are the key differences between Yorkfield desktop CPUs and Penryn laptop CPUs?
    • Will I notice a drop in raw CPU computing power going to a Penryn from a Yorkfield?
    • Will the Penryns run SLI and RAID as well as Yorkfields?
    • I play a game that requires lots of CPU power (as well as GPU power), will the Penryns run it and SLI and RAID as well as Yorkfield?
    CPU power is important to me and I need to figure out if the Penryns are a show-stopper or not.

    Thanks in advance.
     
    Travesty, May 22, 2009
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    well what do you want to run so we can figure this out?
     
    dondadah88, May 22, 2009
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  3. Travesty

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    Everything, really. Work apps, Excel, Access, MS Office, video games (FPS, MMOs, etc.,), media editing (photo, video, sound).
     
    Travesty, May 22, 2009
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  4. dondadah88

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    what clock speed you want me at and do you want to try wprime?
     
    dondadah88, May 22, 2009
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    I'm pretty sure they are both penryns.
     
    ErBall, May 22, 2009
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    here's mines
    [​IMG]
     
    dondadah88, May 22, 2009
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    pretty sure you're wrong, since one is a mobile cpu and the other is a desktop cpu.

    But I thought the 9650 was yorkfield and the 9300 was monteniva, but I might be wrong as well.
     
    GamingACU, May 22, 2009
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    It's a term confusion, Montevina is the name of the 5th generation of the Centrino platform, Penryn is the processor family name (So the Qx9300 is a Penryn processor of the Montevina platform).
     
    Aeilerto, May 22, 2009
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    Mine's Yorkfield- QX9300.

    Though I'm stuck at 2.53GHz.
     
    k9hydr4, May 22, 2009
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    qx9650 yorkfield
     
    Johnksss, May 22, 2009
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    The x9100's stock speed is 3.06ghz. If the game/programs can use the quadcore I would go with the qx9300.
     
    akaltenbach, May 22, 2009
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    i'm penryn. as cpu-z stated above. that's weird. k9hydr4 can you use cpu-z and make sure.
     
    dondadah88, May 22, 2009
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    Cpu-z and everest. 'Can't post pics now.

    Why is it so hard to believe? Cost cutting measures means streamlining process(pentium vs celeron anyone?) shared components, or variations on the same platform-
     
    k9hydr4, May 22, 2009
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    what i mean is that is there two types of qx9300. because in my previous post on the first page if you look at mu cpu it says penryn. but you say that yours is yorkfield. unless you are talking about the qx9650.
     
    dondadah88, May 22, 2009
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    I have a QX9300 that is called Yorkfield. I'll post pics when I get home-
     
    k9hydr4, May 22, 2009
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    Your guess is as good as mine-

    Anyone here care to google this info, or well read on intel's family of processors?
     
    k9hydr4, May 22, 2009
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  17. f4ding

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    The Q9650 is yorkfield, the QX9300 is penryn. From the specs, the penryn is slower in cpu speed and fsb (1066 vs 1333 in yorkfield). So I would suspect that the Q9650 would be faster.
     
    f4ding, May 22, 2009
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  18. dondadah88

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    acutully. using a bios overclock. i am at 3.2ghz and my fsb raised to 1333. so it depends on the notebook he is thinking about purchhasing.
     
    dondadah88, May 22, 2009
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  19. k9hydr4

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    The NP8662/M860(E)TU is the only game in town for 15 inch(QX9300 only). You definitely have more choice with 17" chassis.
     
    k9hydr4, May 22, 2009
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  21. kaltmond

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    Dell M4400 cannot take Quadro 2700/3700M ;)
     
    kaltmond, May 22, 2009
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  22. Sp3ctrum

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    lol did anybody read the first post, I'm interested at equal clock would a desktop quad perform better than a mobile quad
     
    Sp3ctrum, May 22, 2009
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  23. k9hydr4

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    Here you go-

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    k9hydr4, May 22, 2009
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    Try new version CPU-Z.

    [​IMG]
     
    kaltmond, May 22, 2009
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    Lol- There's always an explanation, isn't there-

    I'll hunt down these new versions and see-

    It's amazing both programs are consistently wrong-

    I guess Everest is using CPU-Z engine?

    UPDATE: Ok, I downloaded 1.5.1 CPU-Z.

    It's Penryn--
     
    k9hydr4, May 22, 2009
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    yeah i have the same version for cpu-z.
     
    dondadah88, May 22, 2009
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  27. f4ding

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    In terms of SLI and RAID, the CPU has no effect on those.
     
    f4ding, May 22, 2009
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  28. k9hydr4

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    I have neither option on my M860TU, so for my setup, I guess it doesn't matter.
     
    k9hydr4, May 22, 2009
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  29. dondadah88

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    i'm not getting you. are you asking a question or making a statement
     
    dondadah88, May 22, 2009
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    QX9300 is nothing more than 2x T9400... it's definitely Penryn. Now the architectural difference? Just find a clock for clock benchmark to compare. There's a desktop yorkfield at 2.53 isn't there?
     
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    acutally i thought it was two p9500's or one t9400 and one p9500. both with unlocked multipliers.
     
    dondadah88, May 22, 2009
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    Wolfdale is to Yorksfield as Penryn is to Penryn QC... and there happens to be a match, the E8200 and my beloved P9600 <.< I'll see if I can find some benches

    Actually this is pointless. According to Anandtech the core is identical (penryn and wolfsdale). Wolfsdale has a faster FSB, but it also has a higher TDP. And Yorksfield is nothing more than 2 Wolfdale dies on one module.
     
    anothergeek, May 22, 2009
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  33. Travesty

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    Thanks Sp3ctrum. Yes, I think that would be the best comparison; a clock-for-clock side by side bench suite between a Yorkfield quad and a Penryn quad.
    Anothergeek, are you saying the Yorkfields and Penryns are identical except for the FSB and that the QX9300's TDP is half of the Q9650 because of the slightly slower FSB (1066 vs 1333) and core clock (2.53 vs 3.06), and nothing else?

    Also, what is the difference in the supporting chipset platforms?
     
    Travesty, May 22, 2009
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    i asked him if he wants to run some programs at his clock speeds and we can find out but i didn't get a response. i can set my multiplier to 11.5(3.06ghz)
     
    dondadah88, May 22, 2009
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    They have the same features, like SSE4 instructions. All the info can be found here. Clock for clock, you won't find a difference besides the FSB.
     
    anothergeek, May 22, 2009
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    Ditto. I was under the impression that both SLI and RAID have CPU overhead. Is that not the case?
     
    Travesty, May 22, 2009
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  37. Travesty

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    Yes, definately dondadah88, if you have both CPUs and can set clock the same for both and do some benches that would be awesome. :)
     
    Travesty, May 23, 2009
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  38. dondadah88

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    i don't get your question either. lol. but the cpu can affect sli/crossfire performance.
     
    dondadah88, May 23, 2009
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    no i thought you had the q9650. i only have the qx9300
     
    dondadah88, May 23, 2009
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  40. Travesty

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    I do. So that will work. Go ahead and run the benches on your QX9300 if you can set the clock to ~3ghz and Il'l do the same with my Q9650. Which bench test software will you be using? Also, what chipset platform is your mobo?
     
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    pm45 ok i'll go to 3.06ghz.

    wprime
    [​IMG]

    both 32m and 1024m

    i'm restarting and running. brb
     
    dondadah88, May 23, 2009
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    [​IMG]
     
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    That was very sloppy. What I meant to say is the different CPU will have the same overhead for both the SLI and RAID. Nothing special is implemented in either CPU to help with SLI and RAID.
     
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    Dondadah, your CPU is the Q9300 desktop Yorkfield, not the QX9300 mobile Penryn. I need a comparison with the latter (please refer to the original thread title ;) ). Thanks anyway.

    Can anyone else confirm/dispute that there is no difference between Yorkfields and Penryns other than FSB speeds?
     
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    no i have a qx9300. cpu-z and cpuid reads it wrong as a intel core 2 extreme q9300. there is no such thing as a q9300. such google. pluss didn't you see the multiplies
    increase from 6-9.5 and i am at 11.5. only extreme. or pinmodded cpu's
    so yeah i have a qx9300. what's your results.
     
    dondadah88, May 23, 2009
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  46. dondadah88

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    also about the yorkfiled and peyrenn. it is also readig it wrong. check the sager thread named 'performance difference between qx9300 vs q9000'. you will diferent versions of the same program reading the qx9300 wrong.
     
    dondadah88, May 23, 2009
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  47. dondadah88

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    also look at my fsb it is at 1066. yorkfield is at 1333.
     
    dondadah88, May 23, 2009
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    =Travesty;4880342]Dondadah, your CPU is the Q9300 desktop Yorkfield, not the QX9300 mobile Penryn.
    gonna have to say your wrong there.
    I need a comparison with the latter (please refer to the original thread title ;) ).
    you sure you know what a qx9300 is?
    qx9300
    http://ark.intel.com/product.aspx?i...sor+QX9300+(12M+Cache,+2.53+GHz,+1066+MHz+FSB)
    q9650
    http://ark.intel.com/product.aspx?i...ssor+Q9650+(12M+Cache,+3.00+GHz,+1333+MHz+FSB)


    now once you read through there...you should have your answers. :)
     
    Johnksss, May 23, 2009
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  49. dondadah88

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    thanks john on treo 800w so it's really hard to post links. but later on i will do some more cpu intesive task to see how it performs.

    john why don't you throw up some stuff?
     
    dondadah88, May 23, 2009
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  50. k9hydr4

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    This could get nasty- Lol.
     
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