a question regarding EUROCOM W860CU with Ati 5870

Hi, I just found that eurocom offers 5870 as possible graphicsx option. and also it offers i5 arrandale processor. I had a question would it be possible in the future to replace i5 with i7. or they require separate motherboards

 

ye I could be wrong on this one, but I dont think that i5 can be upgraded to i7.
i5 = PM55
i7 = HM55

or something like tht. Sorry its not as accurate as it should be, but im pretty possitive they cant be upgraded.

 

They do make the i7 in both the PM55 and HM55 so theoretically it is upgradeable. My NP8760 is a PM55 however the HM55 is a different chipset. From what I know it supports the i5 and the i7 but not the i7 920XM. You can read more here: http://ark.intel.com/chipset.aspx?familyID=43181 Hope this helps.

 

Thanks a lot. Given that they offer Extreme cpu, i think it is safe to assume that it's upgradable in the future. Also, can anyone comment on the colling efficiency of that clevo 860cu?

 

I wouldn't trust anything that Eurocom says they sell unless you see it also being sold at more trustworthy rebranders like Sager.

Eurocom also claimed that the W870CU could be sold with Radeon HD4870.

 

Yep Eurocom can't be trusted, they have lied to and ripped off customers in the past and you really should stay away from them. If you want to know a few more reasons why you should stay away from them then check out the links in my signature.

You are better off buying from Powernotebooks.com, or XoticPC. Both these resellers have very good reputations, and have friendly reps that frequent the forums here and can help you out when you need it.

 

Eurocom does it again, nuf said.

 

Canadians should look at Pro-Star. I've seen it said that they offer the best deals to Canadians.

Sorry Eurocom, but you have a really bad rap.

 

Wow, thanks again guys.

 

You're wrong on this one, it can, not sure about the 920XM though, but I know on the M17x R2 i5's and i7's (including 920XM) are interchangeable.

 

haplo, i don't know if your canadian or not (im only assuming this because eurocom appears to be the main reseller for canadians)
but if so, check out AET Solutions in Quebec
I got my sager 8690/w860cu from them and got them to price match with xoticpc

 

Is it me or the price of a W860CU with a 5870 in Eurocom is extremely low? Shows up as 1319 USD on my screen...

 

Yeah I see 1319 USD as well. Also if you drop the ram down to 1 stick of 2GB it comes down to 1170 USD. I wonder if they would honor this if your placed an order?

 

Thanks for the clarification. That picture makes me sick lol (Crylo)

 

No. They would just say its a typo or something. Someone should e-mail them and confirm whether its real or not.

 

Eurocom has no honor, so I would guess no. lol

 

I just sent them an email with inquiry about that. I wonder what the reply would be. But realistically, if u choose new 5870 they say it would cost 295$ !!!!!!!!!! less.
how realistic is this?

 

Thank you for your enquiry...

Yes, this unit is currently available with Arrandale i5 processors. We
are also currently taking pre-orders for the 5870. ETA is about 2 weeks
or so. I don't know allot about the price right now but I understand
this card is less expensive then it's Nvidia rivals which would explain
the cost difference.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Thank You

 

the biggest question is it really 295 dollars cheaper?

 

If it's really $295 cheaper, I'll preorder one tomorrow.

 

rather you than me

 

Yeah seems like a good price... its a bad company, I know, but... a Clevo is a Clevo.

 

no probs on my purchase

 

Dang...is this for real? The 5870 in a Clevo?

 

Just to chime in on the i5/i7 question - Sager has confirmed that their "lower-end" i5 systems (NP7652 and NP7762) can also use up to an i7-820QM (TDP -thermal budget- is too high for the 920XM for them to use it in these models).

So yes, in theory, the processors in an NP8690 (W860CU) could be downgraded to an i5 or an i7-620M, though Sager doesn't offer the option...YET.

The NP8690 uses the PM55 Chipset, currently revision B2. There has been a delay on the PM55 B3 chipset revision from Intel, and the PM55 B2 has not had the Arrandale processors validated. Sager tells me that it may or may not work, but that they will not validate Arrandale processors on the NP8690 until the B3 revision is going into PM55 chipsets.

 

The Arrandale processor DOES work on the W860CU. We are currently shipping units with these processors.

I seem to remember similar talk when Eurocom introduced Quad core processors on the D900C, the M570TU and the M860TU way ahead of everyone else. Then we supported the 9800M GTX on the M570TU way ahead of everyone else! It won’t work, this company does not think it's a good idea… that company thinks it will cause the unit to overheat. If it dies you’re going to be screwed…The sky is falling! Now it's all standard equipment on both units. It didn’t overheat, it didn’t destroy any machines. The sky did not fall!

I do no doubt what Eleison is quoting is right from Sager… but there are other resellers around and some actually have R&D teams… Like Eurocom.

Eurocom is certainly are not perfect but there seems to be a pattern here of Eurocom releasing new technology before other resellers. For a while everyone jumps up and down and cries fowl until the other resellers catch up, and then everything is back to status quo like it never happened.

The W860CU and the W870CU DO support the Arrandale processors!

 

Does this mean you'll be shipping the W860CU/W870CU w/ 5870?

 

Typical Eurocom.

What does it matter whether you have an "R&D" team? If they were competent they would never try to push un-validated product on their customers.

The point is that Intel has not validated the B2 version of the PM55 chipset for use with Arrendale processors, and they are working on the B3 version that will be validated for the Arrendale processors. Until Intel has a chipset that is validated for Arrendale processors Sager will not release such product to their customers.

Maybe the R&D department at Eurocom knows more than Intel engineers?? Come on

 

Now now boys will be boys.

The point is ... eurocomm says it will ship 5870's ... Thats all we want here ...

 

You’re correct...Typical Eurocom...



First off the mark with the new technology again, we are not waiting for our supplier to give us our next unit we are allowed to sell or next statement to regurgitate!



I’m baffled by your comment about us pushing un-validated product, you are operating under uninformed assumptions that our R&D team is working alone on this project and don’t have a slightest idea about our level of expertise. The fact of the matter is that you have no idea about what we are working on and with whom, and what validation even means so I find your comments a bit rich.



We fully warranty our product, same as the company that supplies you with some of your notebooks and does all of the warranty work you, we probably know a whole lot more about those systems than you. We have been in this business for over 20 years working with the same company and are not going anywhere, neither is the support of the hardware that we offer!



Having said that, I would not be so confident about your claim to fame.

 

Since the original poster got their answer this thread is now closed.