about to pull the plug and cancel np8660 order

these temperatures are really scaring me.
i was willing to drop 2k+ on a laptop cause i figured it would get me through my last 2 years of college without any performance struggles and such...
but with temperature readings(i know theres only like 1 or 2 out there and that the thing isn't like at the point of melting overheating..but its alarmingly high and above norms.), im starting to doubt how my np8660 will hold up through heavy use.
If i stick with my np8660, it seems like a notebook cooler will be a necessity, not an accessory. which again makes me wonder if i should spend lots of money on a laptop that can hardly cool itself..
ahhh... starting to doubt, anyone want to re insure me that im just being paranoid haha?

 

I'd wait and see if some more people report the same issue. I'm really hoping it's an isolated case since I get mine tomorrow.

 

Be sure to let us know.

 

You're being paranoid. Its only one incident. Right now, if you want to think about it like that, narrow mindedly, two people have gotten the laptop, one with normal heat and one with terrible heat.

There is a 50/50 chance that the laptop you receive will be like Ad@m's (which I realize, he is taking pictures of ON THE GROUND....FOR SHAME ).

Calm yourself down before you do something you'll regret.

Too many of you guys on this forum have no faith in your purchases. (which is why I'm guessing so many jumped ship on orders that are now the most desired on this forum)

Don't you trust if the laptop is not to your desires you can send it back for a refund?

 

I posted on the Kobalt forum about this and Andrew@Kobalt said that they haven't seen any temperature problems during testing at it is likely to be a faulty drive so I wouldn't cancel yet... and even if your machine is faulty, there I believe you can return it within 31 days for a refund if you are not satisfied

 

Minus restocking free, of course.

 

don't worry dude, just wait a little longer for more of the laptops to be received by buyers and wait for more reviews to start coming out; there's not enough data out yet for us to be making conclusions about the 8660 yet!

 

Not necessarily; however, if you want to wait a little longer to see how things play out before being committed to spending the money on your system, you might talk with your reseller to see if you can defer your order for a week or so - i.e., let a certain number of other orders in the pipeline go ahead of yours - so that more early adopters can get their systems and test them for heat problems.

 

Actually if you bought from XOTICPC (and I think this goes for Powernotebooks and Sager also), it's only the shipping fees back and forth. No restocking fee (no Alienware-type rip-off).

 

Well, if you don't see a post from me tomorrow, assume the palmrest has melted my hands off at the wrists.

 

Does anyone know what materials are the GPU made of? Then we can search for melting point of the materials, and find out whether it is a problem or not.

 

It won't melt...it will catch on fire well before.

 

Nah. At those temperatures it's going to sublimate directly into carbon monoxide gas.

 

...that's the same as catching on fire...

 

Nope. No flames. Just *POOF!*







Notebook instantly turns into a plume of carbon monoxide gas.

It's fun to watch.

 

Mikel is right sublime is to convert from solid to gas without the liquid phase, but this need to be done under lower pressure. See phase diagram on wiki or google it.

 

Not always the case. Look at iodine or carbon dioxide. Both can sublimate at ground pressure - carbon dioxide sublimates at room temperature while iodine sublimates when heated. Water sublimates slowly when frozen.




Thank you Wikipedia, high-god of casual knowledge of everything!

 

I never said lower pressure means below atmosphere pressure. I didn't give out a reference pressure on purpose of generalization...

 

Guys, I don't think you are saying anything that will help him not cancel his order.

 

Oh, just don't cancel it after all this waiting!!! You can always return it if you don't like it! (though you gota pay for the shipping)

 

haha thanks bluemak for tryin to keep this thread on topic.
but eh yea, ill just wait it out alil more for other readings and as evil as it may sound, hope the machine that gave out the bad temps was a lemon and not a sign for things to come =\
but i wana hurry up and decide so i dont have to lose money on shipping =)

 

Actually lower pressure would found higher in the atmosphere. The lower you go, the more pressure you get. But don't sweat it.

You don't think we're not here to help him not cancel his... what?

I just got lost.

 

the HDD is hot itself. I thought it's just a problem with the HDD, not overall chasis! other temp are perfect!

 

get the np5796 then. I was going to get the np8660 for college (that i am at now) but then i realized that a np5796 has bigger screen (good for games) and it will last longer because of better temps.

here's the my link to my np5796 temp/benchmark readings:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=276430

when I run in powersaver mode with full blast fans (which i do all the time if not gaming or hard mulitasking in order to lower temps and preserve laptop life), the temps are scary low. this is without any external cooling like a notebook cooler.

 

Well, I for one was not planning to use my NP8660 while mountain climbing. Sager builds tough notebooks - but I never though they were that tough.

 

Wait a minute, I was right on that part too, pressure is pressure, lower than atm pressure does not mean go to a lower altitude. Atmosphere pressure is a constant, it is defined as 760 mmHg, so lower atmosphere pressure would be a pressure below atmosphere pressure, and below atmosphere pressure means below the atmosphere pressure not a lower altitude in the atmosphere. Man, you got me confused over what I said LOL. I should have known this pretty well, since I took the same medical college admission test 7 times... And I graduated with a BS degree in Biomedical Engineering...

 

If it fries in air it's gonna leave behind a bunch of SiO2.

 

What's the point?

Are you saying there are a lot of SiO2 in the graphic card?

Darn it can't find the melting point of SiO2, it says SiO2 is amorphous, so it doesn't have a defined melting temperature....

But I doubt it will be the first material inside of the GPU to melt or to sublime. I am guess some metals or some sort of polymers will melt before the SiO2 does.

 

So what are you going to do, order a Dell 8600M?

You know your ordering a M86TU, stop playing hard to get

 

For the record I took chemistry way back in grade 11 and I didn't do too hot. This is an accomplishment!

 

Still going to cancel that order, OP?

One model with defective parts from Sager so far on the forums.
That's it so far. Just pray that yours comes with everything functioning perfectly if its a np8660.

 

yeah its only one order with a defective overheating something-below-the-right-palmrest. (perhaps a hdd, as i've been following the 17 page thread so far from Ad@m..) for that performace to size to weight ratio, gosh you got yourself a very good deal!! oh and if you don't get a 8660, you're gonna get a m15x that has alien-like temps?? (think their nearer to the sun than us.. higher temps =x) if you can wait, wait.. wait and see more wonderful reviews.. if you really can't wait and need a laptop asap.. hmmm... then i'll think of something else..

 

There have been 4 reviews so far? 2 of them give it great praise.. one is fairly neutral...and one is negative.

The biggest complaint people are having is the size of the power brick.

I wouldn't worry too much yet.

 

Also, you can't have a better 15'' than the NP8660. What else is there? Alienware m15x? Dell XPS m1530?

 

okay my bad. i'm not updated then. the power brick from ad@m's pictures doesn't seem to be huge actually. can you link me to a better picture? one with the fan in full view would be good

 

Thanks for the compliment!

And as for the order, I am not going to cancel it! I think people just want to trick me into canceling my order so they can get their laptop shipped faster, well that is not going to happen!

 

The powerbrick does seem huge!

And JGRiopick(sp?) posted that his harddrive hits about 51'C(?) so it seems like Ad@m's is an isolated case.

That said, I thought Sager tests and burns in these machines... Isn't the whole point to catch problems like unusually hot harddrives?

 

OP: don't cancel brother. I think this is one of the best investments i've made thus far. Aside from the ring for my wife of course

Try it - if you like it keep it. If not send it back.

 

I like mine. Haven't run any benchmarks or temp software yet, but I don't foresee any harddrive related heat issues.

It's really a beautiful darn laptop.

 

isnt the 5796's bigger?
This machine needs alot of power. Its not going to have a baby block like all the run of the mill laptops.

 

I personally don't think much of the power brick. I mean, think of the power supplies of our desktops. This laptop is easily more powerful than the average desktop out there, and its power brick is about 1/2 the size of the desktop power supplies. It's more than acceptable.

 

What im getting annoyed with is that you guys in north america have been getting your laptops in and i have not seen an in depth review yet. Ill be getting mine next week and may end up beating you guys to it!

 

they're all too busy playing on it. for your sake, i hope when you get yours, you'll be too busy using it to write a review.

 

I'm glad that by the time I get mine all questions will have been answered so I won't need to.

Then again there might be questions about the WUXGA screen... =\

 

Nah, I like the attention too much, so i will post everything up straight away..... plus my mom took my external hard drive with all my game data on it an wont be back for 2 weeks so i wont be able to play that much with it, except for a few games like crysis, fear and supreme commander.

 

well here's a +1 for you done before you write it just to entice you to take plenty of pictures and screen captures.

 

Well, after having extreme considerations after the rumours about the graphics cards...I ordered one from Kobalt Computers. If the notebook is as good as their help, I am in for a great ride.
Just in case I will extend the warranty some time later this year.

 

good choice BlueMak. their reputation is outstanding.
have you joined the kobalt forum yet? if not link in sig.

 

In depth reviews don't come from the information that one gathers in an afternoon of use. It'll take a couple days to really learn what this thing is made of.