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    afraid to push settings when overclocking...

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by dave1812, Jul 29, 2011.

  1. dave1812

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    Sager 8130/560m video card. installed nvidiaInspector to OC. It doesn't automatically test to see what the max settings should be and I've NO IDEA what is a safe setting to use. Anyone have guidelines for setting up the best performance from the card, using that or any other utility? I don't even know what the various parameters do, much less know how far to push them, from stock.

    Also, no matter what I do, NI always wants to up voltage to 1.0v. is that ok?

    does the OC'ing continue even if NI is closed?
     
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    The best settings are always the stock ones.

    I personally use MSI Afterburner to OC my 8700m so please do so very carefully and at your own risk.
     
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    pardon my confusion, but if "stock" is best, doesn't that mean we shouldn't be overclocking at all? and if that's the case, why are u using MSI AB?
     
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    c0nfucius Notebook Consultant

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    Well, is there any reason for you to overclock? If you just want to satisfy your curiosity, you should read a review on the 8130 (pretty sure there are a couple on these forums) and see what values others have used. What NovaH means is that by keeping everything running at stock speeds, the longevity of your laptop is assured and Intel/nVIDIA have decided what settings these parts can take without crashing your system.

    EDIT: I always read about overclocking, but never do it myself; I am a chicken. :p The 560M would probably satisfy most gamers at stock speeds as well.
     
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  5. dave1812

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    The main reason I bought an expensive unit is to be able to run FSX decently. I gingerly applied a bit of overclocking while running FSX and see a bit of FR improvement, which is precisely what I'd like. But I don't want to leave it set to some values that may ruin it prematurely. I haven't been able to find any specific recommendation. what happened to the good ole days when the OC utilities provided an automated OC?
     
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    c0nfucius Notebook Consultant

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    Well, in this post, a user got his system running stable with 820 shader 1400 memory 1640 shader. Maybe give something like that a shot but don't hold me responsible. :D

    EDIT: and an entire thread devoted to overclocking the 560M! :)
     
    c0nfucius, Jul 29, 2011
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    I too have never overclock mainly because it was not needed, this is why I don't really want to own the 485m but rather have the 6990m and 580m.
     
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    Overclocking is tricky because all units are different. Different parts can reach differing levels of overclock without having problems (due to the way parts are "binned" during quality control).

    If you want to overclock (which as others pointed out, may reduce longevity), it's always best to take it small steps at a time. Bump up clocks a little bit, run stability testing and monitor temps- rinse and repeat.

    Adjusting voltage in machines with tolerances this tight is also iffy because you just don't have a lot of excess power/cooling, so it definitely makes things more difficult.
     
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    But the 580m is a overclock 485m is it not, and it run fine.
     
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    No, it's not. It *performs* as an overclocked 485m would. The 580m is a die shrink and factory clock increase (which was possible due to the aforementioned die shrink, without affecting temps)
     
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    How do I run stability testing. is there an app that does that?
     
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    There are quite a few good benchmarks that will test it out- Furmark, Prime95, 3DMark Vantage/11, PCMark, etc.

    They'll push the hardware enough that it will be obvious whether or not your overclock is stable.
     
    Anthony@MALIBAL, Jul 29, 2011
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    You can use Furmark. Run a stress test with it for an extended period of time like ~30 minutes. If you don't see artifacts, your computer doesn't shutdown/restart/lockup or you don't see an error pop up then your GPU is doing good.
     
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    ah, i see-so if I test the performance, that's what shows the stability. thanks. i'll give some of them a try right now..
     
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    Yeah, that "low score" is an ad for some sort of system optimizer software, you can ignore it :)

    That's not a bad improvement for a modest overclock. Just be sure to watch the temperatures as you increase the overclock.
     
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    will do. thank you. i set up two shortcuts to the nvidiainspector to go OC and standard--seem like a simple way to manage the OC'ing when I want to run FSX. I can see the frame rate improve--it's hard to quantify it exactly because the FR counter varies by the split second. it never stays still in FSX.
     
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    Why are you using such an old driver though? I think the 275.33 drivers at the least would help. If that isn't natively supported, there should be a link to the official supported driver on these forums. I know I saw the thread for the 560M's driver.
    It should improve performance.
     
    D2 Ultima, Jul 30, 2011
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