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    boot from ISO disk

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Callidor, Aug 27, 2008.

  1. Callidor

    Callidor Notebook Evangelist

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    I hate to double post, but this is important. I had a long exchange with Sager, and they just sent me an ISO that may fix the key skipping problem on the 5793 (which i and a few others have experience). i burned the image to a disk, but i've only flashed a BIOS once, and i don't know how to boot from it. Can somebody please give me specific instructions? in the boot section of the BIOS menu, the optical drive is listed as higher priority than the HD, but that doesn't seem to do anything. How do I tell my machine to specifically boot from the optical drive? Thanks.
     
  2. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    use Nero or whichever program, select "Burn Image" then select the ISO file.

    Then burn on a CD and its good to go.
     
  3. Callidor

    Callidor Notebook Evangelist

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    Please read my question more carefully. The disk is burned. I need to know how to boot off it.
     
  4. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    go to BIOS and set Boot Order.... 1st device should be CD/DVD Drive.
     
  5. sliqsystems

    sliqsystems Notebook Consultant

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    Normally, if the CD is bootable, and higher in the boot order, you will see something like "Press any key to boot from CD", just after the POST section and just before its loads Windows from your HDD. Do you have your POST visible? Did you see any prompt like this?
     
  6. MKang25

    MKang25 NBR Prisoner

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    Hmm when you used burn to cd did you use the option that had create an cd using iso image w.e If you just used burn file (in your case iso image) to the cd then it wont be able to read it and therefore not be able to boot off of it.
     
  7. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    I don't know about Clevo notebooks, but many recent notebooks let you press a Fn key during initial boot that brings up a one-time boot order menu. Otherwise Esc, F1 or F2 are the most likely keys to need to press on the initial boot to enter the BIOS.

    John
     
  8. Callidor

    Callidor Notebook Evangelist

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    i did use burn ISO..so it should be a boot disk.
     
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    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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  10. Callidor

    Callidor Notebook Evangelist

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    ok thank you. i think i'm having problems with nero. now...let's say i'm at the point where i've burned the iso with no crap ups.

    if i have it in the drive at start up, it should just boot off of it, right? the optical drive, by default, is higher in the boot priority than the hard drive.
     
  11. sliqsystems

    sliqsystems Notebook Consultant

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    It will if you press a key when it asks you to boot from CD. Otherwise, it just bypasses the CD and continues to your hdd.
     
  12. Callidor

    Callidor Notebook Evangelist

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    same thing happened as when i used nero. computer started up with iso disk in drive. after i ignored the prompt to hit f2 to enter BIOS settings, i got a blinking underscore cursor for a few moments. then it faded to black, and launched windows. is that blinking cursor the cue for me to press any key to boot from the cd?
     
  13. sliqsystems

    sliqsystems Notebook Consultant

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    On all the systems I have seen, the system will go through the POST. You don't want to go into setup or anything (as long as your boot order is correct). After the POST, you should hear it revving up the CD/DVD, and if it sees a boot sector on the CD, it will throw a prompt on the screen "Press any key if you want to boot from the CD/DVD" (or something like that). That is the point you dont want to miss. Just press space or some other key and it should start booting from the CD.

    If you don't see that prompt, then I am thinking that this is not a bootable CD. Where did you get this ISO? Did they say it was a bootable image?
     
  14. Callidor

    Callidor Notebook Evangelist

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    here's the email they sent me:

    Hi Ethan, please try the version 09s firmware.

    Please download the attached file 579h809s.zip.
    Unzip the file to your hard drive.

    The file 579h809s.iso is the image of a bootable disk with all the files for updating the system firmware.

    Burn the 579h809s.iso to a CDR or CDRW disc.

    Please make sure that the computer is on AC power.

    Use the disc to boot the computer to flash the system firmware.

    Note. Sager Computer does not take the responsibility if the computer does not work after you updated the system firmware by your self.

    i burned it using iso recorder. i'm not getting the prompt you're talking about.
     
  15. livesoft

    livesoft BUSTED

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    Try another CD to see if its detected. Recent computers should automatically detect the boot cd and ask to press any key. Older computers should, for example, ask to press Enter to boot from another device. You shouldn't have to go in the bios. My guess is that you keep pressing any key and hope that it boots.
     
  16. sliqsystems

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    The only thing left that I can think of is you have a bad burn. Do you have nero? I think you can dl a free copy of it, although I dont know if the free one burns Isos. I would try nero. Also, I have had iso burns go bad on me in the past. Even using nero. I always burn and then have nero verify the contents of the burn. Also, I saw mention of isobuster in this link:
    http://www.geocities.com/kilian0072002/BootCD.htm
    It says this thing can show you the contents of an iso file so you can see if the boot sector stuff is in there.

    The only other thought I had, is if you have some other boot CD that could get you into DOS. You could boot that, then put your bios cd you made and just run the autoexec that is on it. (I am assuming this is what they are using to flash the bios - old fasion DOS - but it may even be a linux boot)
     
  17. Callidor

    Callidor Notebook Evangelist

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    I tried using nero at first, then iso recorder as that other person suggested. same outcome with both. I emailed sager about it. ive also used 2 CDs
     
  18. MKang25

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    hmm thats weird, try downloading any other iso image copy that to a cd and see if that works. IF that works then it is the ISO image that SAger sent that is not wokring.

    GO download GParted ISO image burn that to a cd and see if you can boot off of that. It is a program that lets you partition your drives, it is small and it is not dangerous at all.
     
  19. Callidor

    Callidor Notebook Evangelist

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    I changed the optical drive to the highest boot priority and still didn't change anything. i just emailed Sager that the ISO they sent me is probably no good, and I asked whether or not they had tested it on one of their machines. They usually respond very quickly, so hopefully we'll have a working version soon.
     
  20. Callidor

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    Well...guess what. After a while, all they could really say to me in their emails was "try harder!" ...so I took one more disk and gave it another try. I have no idea what went wrong with the first two, but this time it worked fine. Image burned to the disk, booted off it without a hitch, and my problem is completely solved!

    I am very impressed with this. When I had this problem with my m15x, Alienware took two weeks, and had my system in their hands to accomplish nothing. Sager handled this over the course of a few days just through email. If anybody else has this problem with their 5793, contact me via PM and I'll get you the ISO file. Thanks for all the help and suggestions, everyone.
     
  21. pasoleatis

    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    Most of the problems occur between the monitor and the chair!

    PL