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    d900k vs. d900t

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by RyanJames, Feb 12, 2007.

  1. RyanJames

    RyanJames Newbie

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    I am going to be purchasing a new mobile workstation very soon. I have been looking at the Clevo lineup and am leaning very much towards either the d900k or the d900t.

    In regards to system power, options, and future upgrades, which system would you recommend?

    My work is mostly with graphics and video editing. I will be doing some gaming on this machine as well.

    Thank you very much for all of your input.

    p.s. Any other systems that you can recommend would be much appreciated as well.
     
  2. CeeNote

    CeeNote Notebook Virtuoso

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    I would get the d900k as it has a dual core processor whereas the d900t is only using p4's.

    You can also take a look at the m570u as this is to be the most recent and one of the most powerful systems of them all. It's also slightly lighter.
     
  3. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    The Clevo D900T has been getting phased out for a while now. It will probably be discontinued by Summer 2007.

    The Clevo D900K is still available since it has much better performance overall... having a Dual-Core AMD. (but that does not mean that this is not gettin phased out either).

    I would highly recommend to look towards the Clevo M570U, it has much more power and better pricing than the Clevo D900 series, since its using Core 2 Duo's and has all the videocard options available for it.
     
  4. RyanJames

    RyanJames Newbie

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    The M570U is a nice machine however I really would like to be able to have two hard drives in my machine without having to take out my optical drive.

    The number one thing that I like about the d900 series of notebooks is its chasis. Ideally, I would buy the d900k and use that for a while and then when the need (urge) to upgrade comes up I would just upgrade the notebook I already have.

    Is it even possible (I imagine it must be... albeit difficult I'm sure) to upgrade the chipset/motherboard in a notebook?
     
  5. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    I built my Clevo D900K back in March 2006 because it was the the most powerful at the time. The dual HDDs is a plus since the RAID-1 (mirror) helps me feel better for data redundancy. But its not that big of a deal since you can get (or make) a 2.5" notebook HDD with external enclosure for cheap and use programs like Retrospect (which comes with most external HDDs sold).

    We can only speculate what Clevo has up their sleeves. They did not show themselves during CES2007, but the upcoming Expo in Germany should tell us what to look forward to.

    Since the D900 series is becoming phased out, one can speculate that they are working on a new model.... hopefully a D900-like notebook chassis with:
    - Intel Core 2 Duo -OR- AMD socket AM2 CPUs
    - up to 4 slots for DDR2 (meaning total 8gigs possible)
    - DX10-ready interchangeable videocards
    - dual HDD and dual Optical drives

    That would be the ultimate mobile workstation. Definitely would be great in Clevo can pull one of these out. :)

    Its not really practical because of the heavy proprietary engineered components within the notebook.
     
  6. RyanJames

    RyanJames Newbie

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    This is exactly what I wanted to know... I really hope that a notebook like the one you described above comes out soon.

    Any remote idea on a possible timeline for something like this? Even if it is another company... I am in semi-desparate need for a mobile workstation. My company is going to buy it for me and is ready and willing to pay for the absolute best available.

    Thanks
     
  7. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    If you can handle having a mid-range videocard (nVidia 7600) and still want dual HDD, then take a look at the HP dv9000t
     
  8. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    The Alienware m5790 offers dual hard drives if you want a faster gaming machine, but Gophn's suggestion of the HP dv9000t is a good one - it is a great value and has solid quality. Also comes in far cheaper than a Clevo.
     
  9. cdcool

    cdcool Notebook Consultant

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    Gophn,

    You think the Clevo M570U is more powerful the a 900K with my specs?
     
  10. Xonar

    Xonar Notebook Deity

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    Yes, actually the M570U has more horsepower. :)

    The Core 2 Duo sweeps away (Up to T7600) the FX-60.

    Take a look at this review: (Core 2 Duo)
    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3260&review=WidowPC

    Then take a look at this one:
    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2841

    Now we all your D900k has 2 gigs ram, a 7950GTX equivalent, Chaz's did not.

    It would only make sense too... The M570U was released after the D900 Series...

    Both systems are top notch, just the M570U outperforms the D900K in terms of processing performance.
     
  11. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    The D900K is the first dual-core notebook on the market. The AMD socket 939 CPUs are using older K8 architecture, which were the best back then....

    Until Intel released the Core (2) Duo's, which is pound for pound the better CPU series.

    Back in March 2006, I was waiting to see the Core Duo notebooks, but it was not going to happen, so i bought the best at the time.... Clevo D900K.

    Now if I (or a friend) were to buy a gaming notebook, I would definitely recommend the M570U.... its just more bang for the buck.

    I still like my D900K though, although it takes a while to get used to (the weight i mean). Since its a Clevo, its still turns heads because a typical person have never seen such a notebook (build quality and style). :D
     
  12. cdcool

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    Thanks for the reviews..Interesting.
     
  13. cdcool

    cdcool Notebook Consultant

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    You are quite right, the 900K does turn heads.

    Most of the configurations I have seen with the M570U are with a 256 video card.

    How does the FX 60 processor match up with the Core Duo 2?, from the reviews, the Core duo 2 seems to be faster, just not sure if you will see any real difference in games.
     
  14. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    in games its usually the GPU that becomes the bottleneck.

    But the architecture of the Core 2 Duo is overall superior to the AMD X2/FX.
     
  15. cdcool

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    Ok..Thanks

    I thought since the FX was a desktop chip it would be superior.

    What the performance difference between the FX and X2 chips, confusing.

    The FX came out after the X2 correct?
     
  16. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    The FX-60 is an X2, but with higher clocks. No other differences.

    The FX-60 is on par with the Core 2 Duo T7600, give or take in certain benchmarks.
     
  17. cdcool

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    Thanks.

    One last question: Can the D900k, upgarde to a higher processor,say a FX-70?
     
  18. Xonar

    Xonar Notebook Deity

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    No because:

    1. The socket used by the d900k is Socket 939, the FX-70 Is socket F.
    2. The FX-70 is for quad core use..
    3. The FX-60 is the fastest Socket 939 CPU.

    P.S. Dont worry man, that laptop you have I'd drool on for ages....
     
  19. cdcool

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    :smile: I guess Im just greedy, I should be ok for a year or two. :laugh:
     
  20. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    D900K tops out with:

    FX-60
    Opteron 185