do you trust resellers to change stock thermal compound

when you pay extra for IC Diamond, how do you know the resellers actually added it to your computer? maybe some leave the stock compound there anyway, and we wouldn't know unless we took the machine apart to inspect.

it's kinda like when you pay someone to change your car's oil. you don't really know they did it unless you stood there and watched. maybe i'm just paranoid.

 

I think jury is out on the usefulness of such upgrade anyway - there is a dutch reseller that has 5 different options think also whatever the compound it is much more important to apply it correctly

 

I was under the impression that for Sager branded products that the resellers don't actually do this but its done when built by Sager.

 

Scarzy is right, Sager actually will do the build and any upgrades including IC Diamond.

Can you trust it will be done? I guess you just have to put your faith in it. It's like putting premium gas in your car, how can you really tell its a higher octane.

 

(Not saying that they do or do not do this...) But I would hate to be the reseller who gets caught with their pants down by an irate customer. That could really hurt their reputation

It would be like the Eurocom debacle all over again.

Mr. Mysterious

 

What's the Eurocom debacle?

 

Fair and Legal Business Practices

Mr. Mysterious

 

I was about to buy a couple of components from them - thank goodness I found this thread! Such shady guys!!

 

I just applied Arctic Cooling paste myself, not because I didn't trust them or what not, just that I don't mind doing that myself and I've done it to previous laptops as well as my desktops and gaming consoles so it's not something I personally have reservations about doing, I'm sure theres people out there that don't like the idea of doing that themselves for what ever the reason may be and if they're really worried about cooling by all means have Sager do it.

The stock compound is sheet form with the stiff consistency of clay, not to say it's bad as the temps were pretty good until I had my laptop serviced and they had removed the heatsinks and reseated them without changing that paste and as you can imagine it was not a great thermal connection after that so I figured that was as good of time as any to switch out.

Removing/reattaching the heatsinks is dead simple in the 8130/8150 and from what I've seen the 8170, also it does not void your warranty.

 

The main point is, NO, you should not pay an extra $40 for a paste job, when you can buy the $5.99 tube and do it yourself.

 

it's been somewhat discussed in previous threads.. the $40 pays for the convenience of having it done for you.

but is it worth paying $40 if they dont actually do it? lol, no.. Myth gave me free icd7, and i know they did it right since i felt i had great temps. I was more inclined to trust them since they're builders instead of resellers..

but in the end, it'll give you more peace of mind, and you'll save $30 if you just do it yourself

 

Honestly though, if I felt the need to question a seller's honesty, I wouldn't be dealing with them in the first place.

It's like my mom, who doesn't like to send food back at any restaurant, because she's paranoid about them doing something to her meal. So I always ask her, "If you feel they might do something so low, why are you comfortable eating there in the first place?"

 

some people just have money to burn though.. that's why questions like this will sometimes get weird answers.

we can't tell you how to spend your money.. well, we can, but you dont have to listen

 

The reason why people pay ~$40 is so they can get peace of mind. If you buy it for ~$5 and put it your self and if something goes wrong, you will have to pay $xxx mount to get component(s) fixed/replaced. If you get it from reseller, you don't have to worry about it...most should come with warranty/guarantee.

Whether this justifies the ~$40 or not...you be the judge but for those who have no experience in DIY...pasting...cpu + gpu...be ready to pay extra money...unless you are OK with stock temp.

 

In most cases, the IC upgrade for $40 is absolutely useless if Sager jsut put its on themselves. However from my impression of Mythlogic, they offer the IC upgrade for free in all their products. They told me that by their standards, they apply the paste and check for proper temps under full stress, and if they don't like it they take it apart and paste it again. Worth my money IMHO, especially if the 5160 can fry an egg...

 

Changing thermal compound is a cathartic rite of passage for all computer builders/tweakers. (DIY)

 

Nothing at all against Mythlogic but, you know they do this by their word, alone?

Which is what this topic is about !

 

pretty sure theres a few people who have been to mythlogic's shop in ann arbor who will attest to their procedures

 

Pretty easy to check if they have done it. That Sager or a builder like Mythlogic would put their reputation on the line for a pea size amount of thermal paste is ridiculous...

 

This thread is going nowhere...

 

I love these thread titles that are essentially yes/no questions.

Yes.

(Thermals are way more essential on a laptop than a desktop and I wouldn't trust myself in the long haul to apply it correctly. Better safe than sorry.)

 

It's like going through the drive thru @ "Jack in the Box" on a busy Friday night! You order two Spicy crispy chicken sandwiches W/cheese, large fry's and a large coke with a cheese cake on the side. Odds are, they will forget the cheese @ $.40 a pop on most orders. I always check!! 2/3 to 3/4 of time, they conventionally forgot the cheese. SURE!!! Who will drive all the way home, open the wrapper, see there in no cheese and go back??....1 out 10 maybe?