emike09's NP5796 (M570TU) Review

No its a little bit smaller than the 9262. Quite a bit actually. Its still big, but its not a brick.

Zenica, I tested and found the same thing as you. Same voltages. I think your ok.

 

That is interesting, then why does my system lock-up and shut down doing anything other than web browsing if I set it to 2x OC. When I did it just now for the screen shot, I ran the Vista WEI after and sure enough---the system froze then shut down. Someone had suggested it could be an undervoltage issue but if your able to 2xOC then there is something else at play.

Any ideas?

 

Hmm thats very interesting. Its highly unlikely temps have anything to do with it. And it seems your voltages are correct to me. Have you tried a bootable stress test?

 

I keep an eye on the temps, they are always good.

"bootable stress test"? What is that? I have done W-Prime and it too causes the shut-down if 2xOC'd.

 

You know I don't remember what it was, but I used a program about a year ago that allowed me to run diagnostic tests on the system under its own boot conditions. Ran a custom linux kernal. I've been searching for it but can't find it again.

 

An interesting test idea but it will boot when OC's 2x it just doesn't like to do any real work. Take right now for example, it is OC'd 1x and I can do what ever, run WEI, 3DMark06 or play a movie. OC it 2x and typing is about all it can handle.

 

Ya geez I don't know. Might be a faulty chip. I'd contact your reseller and see if you can't get a new one

 

I was wondering how to determine if it is the CPU or the system itself...anyone with any ideas?

 

As the only thing you are OCing with a multiplier OC is the CPU, i'd put my money on it not being up to 'extreme edition' specs...

 

Jeez. Leave your computer alone. It's running fine as it is. Don't blow it up!

 

So you would bet a defective CPU?

I would normally agree but this is an expensive CPU bought with the express reason to be able to OC and if it is defective, then I should seek a warranty replacement.

 

Zenica, I'm going to suggest a warranty replacement. I completely agree that if we are going to drop 1000 bones for a processor, it ought to be able to handle what we are told it will take. Call up RJTech and request a replacement shipped out to you.

 

you guys may need to use cpuz 1.41 or 1.42 to find out your real voltage.... it seems that above this number...it reports the wrong voltage for notebook computer cpus, but gives the correct values for desktop cpus....

edit: also when running wprime... have your hardware monitor temp window up side by side.

 

Mine also is benching at the same scores when compared to 11x and 13x. Like it wasn't overclocked at all...

 

so no change at all mike? does it show the fsb changed at all? (speculating)

 

No change on the FSB. Remains at 1066 which I believe it should stay at. I can no longer get the 3DMArk 06 score I"ve got posted. CPU score is about 800 points lower, clocked the same.. Both RM Clock and 3D Mark see it as 3GHz, yet I KNOW that I"m at 3.5mhz. Vista sees 3.5 also.

 

what does cpuz show it as?

 

Its showing 3.5ghz. Every bench I try, from Sandra to Everest to Prime, shows it running around 3 GHz. Oh well. Might have something to do with Vista SP2 Beta and multiple driver installed due to change of the gpu dev id. I'm going to roll a bunch of stuff back and see what happens.

 

CPU-Z version 1.41 reports the voltage for no OC, OC 1x & 2x as 1.238v
CPU-Z version 1.48 reports the voltage for no OC, OC 1x & 2x as 1.350v

Maybe it isn't the CPU but rather the Clevo BIOS and│or motherboard?

 

that's what i was thinking....

 

ok after a full os reinstall, the problem still persists, but I've found the cpu is running at 1.5ghz instead of 3.5ghz. For some reason, it thinks its idling. Is there any way to turn off speedstep?

 

fresh install
you checked power options
run crystalcpuid to check or change your speed stepping.

 

Ya fresh install only. Power setting is set to high performance, with minimum and maximum cpu usage set to 100%. Its intermitten. The less there is going on in the game, or anything using the cpu, the more it downclocks. CrystalCPUID always locks my system up, but I'll try again.

 

only move it like 1x....

 

same thing when at 12x. Now I've come up with something interesting. I think I might not have enough power. When running at 11x and overclock off, the slowdowns are gone. When you consider the power the cpu and gpu are taking, especially with an overclock, plus the screen, mobo, ram, hdd, other hardware and accessories, I may be hitting the 120w max for the system. I don't know the wattage for anything but the cpu, which is 44 stock, 53w overclocked.

 

that very well could be the reason why......

run rmclock and drop the voltage by 1 volt and see what happens then....

 

Looks like it actually is using 56W when overclocked.

 

what software are you using that gages the watts of the system??

 

Sis Sandra 2009 shows cpu wattage usage. Its a very accurate bench. Makes sense too, since my guess of 53w originally was simply 44W*(13x/11.5x)=W where W is the wattage and x is the multiplier, or something like that.

 

Well I found the problem. Looks like it was the video card shaders that the system didn't like. They no longer like the 1620MHz shader speed. I moved them down to the standard 1375 and the system is far more responsive. I can keep the core and mem set at 600/965 with no problems. The main issues exist when running shader model 3. Shader model 2 and 4 have no issues at all. Fallout 3 is what I've been noticing the most issues with, and if I'm correct, F3 only uses Shader models 3. Jumping into Crysis running in DX10 mode, even with shaders up, the wierd lagging goes away. So the processor had little to nothing to do with the issue. I think I have stressed the shaders too much and they are tired and want to give up...

 

goes back to my way earlier post of...too much over clocking is not always a good thing...*LOL*.

man, im glad you figured that out!!

 

I have recently purchased a Clevo M570TU (X9100, 9800m GTX etc, great laptop except for the speakers), how exactly have you been overclocking your graphics card? Can you do it through software, or do have to update the bios with new clocks like I had to do with my M1710..

Also do you have the following problems?

1: When running x64 vista, after using a web browser for at least 5 minutes the computer completely freezes needing a hard reset (doesn't do it in XP).

2: The volume output on the onboard sound card is so unbelievably low that its hard to hear anything with even a head set?

 

To get your speakers louder follow hte directions in this thread even if the pictures are different..Made a massive difference on my 5796 when it comes to loudness..

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=322392

For the freezing, trying installing the updated fingerprint reader driver.. The previous one had a massive memory leak that was causing freezing on tons of laptops..This should put you to the sager driver selection page, if not just got to sagernotebooks.com and go under support..
http://64.208.175.44/pages/notebooks/download.cfm?ProductType=5796

 

what program did u use to overclock ur gtx? and what drivers are u using?

 

Hi !

So if I get with M570TU /Intel Core 2 Duo 8400 processor and nvidia 9800GTS 512Mb.................................9276 3d Mark 06 score is quite OK or?

 

Thats a good score. Right about where it should be. If you want to max your score, install Windows 7, install the latest 179.28 drivers, and overclock as high as you safely can. You should be able to get 10k after tweaking and overclocking.

 

gonna have to say...the 185.20 are probably better right now....
give them a try..they seem to work pretty good with vantagemark.. and usually if they wrk good with vantagemark..they work good for gaming...

 

I installed 185.20 after 179.28, and I retained the ability to software overclock. Anyone else experience this as well?

 

yep. pretty sure they are built off the 179.28 version

say kevin, what type of score did you get for vantage?

 

Out of the box with stock driver and stock speeds:


I hadn't even bothered to buy Vantage since then, but I think I will now to see the difference.

BTW, I just finished installing a QS T9800, and here's my first 3Dmark06 run:


Not bad, I think.

 

Cough 7805u cough