gtx 485m reviewd with miss sandy b

Review Nvidia Geforce GTX 485M graphics card - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

 

massive increase

i want gtx 560m to be a rebrandred gtx 470m with better tdp and efficiency and higher clocks in qosmio or gt780 now

gtx 570m to be 192bit/256 bit with 336 sps

 

Nvidia is not rebranding the 470M or 460M, so the 570M/560M do not exist.

 

well msi gt 780 has gtx 5xxm gc so lets hope so

 

Holy crap, nVidia has creamed AMD and their own prior releases with the 485M. The performance is on par with crossfire 5870m most of the time and beats it during others. This thing does not disappoint. I wonder how the 6970M stacks up?

 

Full GF104 goodness.

 

I don't believe anything MSI says, with regards to their vaporware GT700 series.

That thing might not even make it out this year. I'm sure they're betting on there being a 560M by the time they release.

 

Please for the love of god release it for the w8x0cu.

 

its user upgradeable for my np7280, but 485 sli is a steep 13xx usd price. i could upgrade now but the thing is maybe they will launch the user upgradeable 580m in np7280.

 

485m sli for usd 13xx where? thats cheaper than 470m sli

 

Although the 485m is the fastest mobile GPU, much credit is due to Sandy Bridge.

Here's the proof...

2720QM + 6970 = 20155

940XM + 6970 x2 = 18082

940XM + 6970 = 17260


The 485m will really fly with an extreme sandy bridge desktop CPU.

 

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I've had notebookcheck cancer for a month and didn't feel it.

 

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i have the same specs as you have. how do you know this? do i have to upgrade my cpu as well?

 

its just my speculation about the 580m, but 485m sli is user upgradeable in np7280 laptops like we have, in 1350 there's 485m sli cards with spare adapter and power converter. you can upgrade the cpu but it really depends if you have the cash, i have the default i7 950 and was hoping to upgrade it to 980x, but still im waiting for something more to come.

 

Hmm... $1200 for a 460m, or $2100 for a 485m but have it last 2 years longer because it comes 60% faster out of the box.... decisions decisions.

 

How about get a P150HM with a 460m now and then upgrade to a 485m (or better) once you feel the 460m is getting outdated...

 

I priced out a 485m PH170HM (Sager NP8170-S1) for about $2150. I'll have to look more into the new SB CPUs though, because I don't know that the lowly 2720QM (2.2Ghz) Core i7 I priced would be enough to handle the 485m.

The way I see it, the 460m is about 40% faster than my 9800m, and the 485m is about 50% faster than the 460m. So in a few years, the new stuff would pretty much be the same speed as the 485 (kind've how the 460/5870 are the same speed as the 285m now), so I'd be able to wait another year or two before worrying about upgrading.

I don't know, I just think having a laptop that pulls 20k in 3dMark06 would be cool.


EDIT: I just double-checked, and I think that price was with a 2Ghz Core i7, the 2.2 comes out to $2300. Oops!

 

i just want to upgrade my cards only.i dont have to upgrade my cpu,right? also,where can i see that price of the card(485m gtx)?

 

yes you can only upgrade the card, its a good performance boost from 480 sli to 485 sli, im still thinking about it for now, maybe future cards will still fit our np7280. it depends where you bought it, you can buy it in your reseller with an indicated price or you can contact them if you want to send it and let them upgrade your gpu

 

i bought mine at XOTICpc . i am wonderin if i should wait for a year to upgrade it or buy it now.i just need to know the total price

 

it really depends, if you have the money then go for it, its a good upgrade from 480m sli, its a decent performance boost. you can talk to your sales rep about this. or you can save the money for even higher upgrades in the future, still we never know when will the next high end card for np7280 will come, the implementation of dual psus in our unit looks promising for higher end gpus in nvida. if you want to buy now i advice you to see some actual reviews first from owners that has sli. if you are satisfied with their reviews then that's a go signal. but if you doubt performance, then you can stick with 480m sli for now. its just a matter of need, if you don't like 480m sli for a reason, then definitely go for the 485m sli if you have the stash.

 

No way should you buy 485M SLI, already having dual 480Ms. Spending $1300, when your machine can already play anything maxed out, is flat out ridiculous.

Don't even consider a GPU upgrade, until AMD and Nvidia go 28nm in Q4 of this year.

 

So would it be silly to get the 485m and an i7-2630QM?

 

I was kind of wondering the same thing. But I think that since most of the new sandy bridge mobile cpus touch the desktop 1st gen i7s, there'd be no way any sandy bridge cpu would bottleneck a 485m.

 

Thats exactly what I was thinking, if an i7 920 can handle GTX 580's in sli I don't see how these babies can't handle a 485m.

 

I'm SOOOO tempted to go with the 485m, mainly due to the 1080p screen if I want to run at native resolution. But can't really afford the extra $500 at the moment. I know I should be able to OC and get close to 470m performance though.

Either way, I figure even if no other more powerful GPU's will fit this MXM, at least we have the 485m which is a credible upgrade down the road. Heck, the 485m with an i7-2820QM and DDR3-1600 RAM is a good bump in overall performance in 12-18 months from now. I may actually get 3 years out of this puppy.

 

In 12 to 18 months, the aftermarket cost of the 485M plus 2820QM (~$900 + $500+) will be nearly enough to buy you a whole new machine, equipped with a 28nm GPU which blows the 485M out of the water.

 

So you think in 12-18 months the 485m will cost $900 and $500 for the 2820QM? I sure hope not. If that's the case then I'll just go with the 8130 and buy a new laptop in a year or so and save myself $300 now. I'd love a 17" but if my upgrade path will cost me $1400+ then it's not worth it IMHO. Or I'll go with the 485m now then, and find a way to pay for it. I'll just deal with an external Blu-Ray drive and an SSD + HDD inside my laptop.

Granted I can probably recover $400 or so from selling my existing CPU & GPU, but that's still a $1000 investment for "old" tech.

 

I guess the flip side, to what I'm saying, is that there will be cheaper GPUs than the 485M in a year. Whether it's the 6900M or GTX 500M, by then the 485M will not look like the best option.

I'm really considering a roll of the dice my self, meaning the plan to stick with the 460M for now , then upgrade to the next something at a cheaper price than the 485M.

The 485M is a heavy investment, one which will leave me wary of spending more on top of it, for an even faster GPU.

I think I've almost convinced myself. The 460M is still considerably faster than my 260M, so I will be content with that, until at least this time next year. Then I'll upgrade to the best GPU I can get for under $600.

 

Yeah, that's what I'm debating still. Dump $500 into it now for a high end GPU, or *hope* for a 485m or better tech in a year for about the same cost.

The one game that I know I'll want to play is Battlefield 3, and whether or not GTX 460m is decent enough to play at at native res with medium settings, who knows.

 

A laptop that can play Battlefield 3 on high and native res will be a laptop that I know will last me years. For me, I think I'll wait till march and see how ATI's 6970 is and see if theres a possible price drop on the 485m.

 

im just worried cuz it is possible the new cards this year wont fit my x7200

 

I wish I knew if the new tech would for sure fit the MXM 3.0b slots in these new SB Sagers as well.

I'm realizing that if I go with the i7-2630QM and GTX 485m, it will be as powerful as my gaming desktop (Core 2 Quad Q9550, GTX 260 216s). I do play 90% of the time on my laptop now, so maybe I should go for the GTX 485m and dump my desktop to recover a few bucks.

 

@ GTO don't worry about the future upgrade if it will be compatible or not, for a co owner like you i strongly advise to play it safe and wait for the meantime.
if the next in line card to 485m will be the better buy (let's say 560, 570, 580 series) then its worth the wait, and by that time 485m prices will drop and that's the time you can pull the trigger, actually i have the stash to buy it right now, but im saving it for later cards for upgrading my np7280.

 

Has there been information at all as to when nvidia would release a 580?

 

I once had the same logic. Buy the GTX 260M now, upgrade later (I thought the rumored GTX 380M would fit my W860CU). However, actually it makes sense to buy the strongest card, as it has a much higher resale value. People will long for a cheap GTX 485M, so you will be able to recover a lot of money, while few people will want to buy a GTX 460M in a year.

 

There's little recoup for the 485M though, if faster and cheaper GPUs are out when I'm looking to upgrade. If I spend the extra $500 now, and want a $500 GPU later, at best I'll recoup $3xx.xx, and will still have to spend more on top for the new piece. So I end up spending like an extra $2xx.xx, at least.

If I save the $500 now, I spend a flat $500 later. Then whatever cheap price I get for the 460M is bonus money, which lowers my $500 purchase.

If the 485M was maybe even $100 cheaper, I'd grab that now.

 

Yeah, $400 for the GTX 485m and I wouldn't hesitate to buy it right now.

 

The 485m should be fitting in the x7200. Some store already offer them, though the ETA is in the end of January.

 

I left out one thing I wanted to say, about this, which ties into my previous post.

The 460M is essentially free, so recovering money is the last thing I need to worry about. Skipping the 485M now, essentially means my next GPU is free as well.

 

Purchasing a 485m with a system is $495, but wouldnt it cost more buying only the part itself?

 

Yes it does cost a lot more. It is always best, if you can afford it at the time, to buy it with your system order...

 

I wonder, how much is Nvidia making on these cards? If you ask me, I think they are ridiculously overpriced. About two times the price they should be.

I mean you can't really expect me to believe that a high-end twice in size GPU for the desktop market is $500 and this one is $800.

 

Spoken like a true salesman j/k

How much, may we ask, does it cost to order it separately now? Is it even possible? Considering the "upgrade" price is $495, I'm assuming you take into account that you're removing the GTX 460m. So I'm assuming a minimum $200 over, so maybe about $695?

However if you look, the GTX 280/285m and GTX 4870 are $300-$500 right now, and these are ~ 18 month old cards.

 

Last I checked, the 460M was at least a $375 chip. So, unless it's had a price drop alongside the 470M, that puts the 485M at $850 or more.

I have zero intent, to buy the 485M aftermarket. I'll buy something cheaper though.

 

a china guy is selling "a" 485m for $1500usd!? why??
he tested hunderds of 485ms an finally select it, which can run at about 75w tdp on the m860cu stable and cool

 

wer do you buy video cards anyway for laptops?

 

mxm-upgrade.com, the resellers, others...