gtx 560m will it be in np8130 by default?

when will nda lift?

i am eager to know its final specs

 

The known specs of the GTX 560M are similar to the GTX 460M mostly other than a core clock of 775 MHz and shader clock of 1550 MHZ, a bump up from the 460M's core of 675 MHZ and shader clock of 1350 MHZ.

Most of the other known specs are on par with the 460M, as for anything that hasn't been said yet who knows but I would expect given the state of the 500 series for it to just be a faster replacement for the 460M, not that thats a bad thing.

 

Here you go CeBIT: the GTX 560M in the Asus G74SX - BeHardware

May be those are not the final specs, but very close to it. Waiting for the benches myself...

 

equal to 470m

 

=470m really ? is computex its release date?

 

equal to 470M => less powerful than 485M

But power consumption of 560M should be much better, right? That plus optimus should be amazing for battery life.

 

Idk how it will perform but it looks like they slashed some stuff away and ships it with higher clocks.
Would not the regular GTX 460m perform just as good with a overclock?

Either way its still better than the GT 555m.

 

nope, more like an overclocked 460m

 

For all intents and purposes, that's exactly what it is.

It's the GF106 460M, moved over to the GF116 process, with higher clocks.

The GTX 470M is still going to be faster, if not at stock, then with a minor overclock.

The GTX 570M is the chip we should hope Clevo adopts, as the base GPU for the high-end machines.

 

I second what Kevin said, we need a good GPU in the next gen of video cards that would be easily compatible with the 8130.

Mr. Mysterious

 

Will the GTX 560M have optimus included or no?
Also where would this card stand in comparison to GTX 460m and GT 555M?

I don't know if it's worth for me to wait for this to get released into the NP8130...will it be a ridiculously long time before it gets implemented?

 

Optimus isn't up to the card it's up to the wiring on the motherboard and if the Intel IGP is active, in the case of the NP8130 if they'll be using the same motherboard they're currently using with the GTX 560M there will be no Optimus.

The 400 series supports Optimus just like the 500 series does, it just isn't used when there is no IGP active and outputting, in fact if you use the DIY ViDock and connect an Nvidia desktop card to a laptop with an Intel IGP 4 series or up it actually will use Optimus, Optimus makes use of a feature thats already built into Windows 7, it just takes it a step further than it's base implementation.

Short story, Optimus on the NP8130/8150/8170 is a no unless they redesign the internal components.

As for performance of the GTX 560M it's a bit over the GTX 460M, take a look at the specs that have been released and you can get a fairly good idea of where it might stand.

 

Thanks Atmosk!

 

there is very thin chance that there will gtx 570m or 580m and even if they are available it will be also thin chance for them to be a base gpu

any one got the finalized spec for gtx 560m?

 

n11e-gs gtx460m
n11e-gts gtx470m
n11e-gtx gtx480m
n12e-gs gtx560m
n12e-gts gtx570m(i guess)
n12e-gtx gtx485m
so im wondering what code name will be gtx580m

btw my 485m batch 1047a it means 2010 47week, and other 485m core picture i can find all 1033a~1035a
early gtx560ti is 1045a, the stock oc 1ghz giga gtx560ti soc is 1051a

 

From most user experiences with the P150/151HM it seems the GTX 460Ms are all capable of much higher overclocking headroom. Almost every one will hit at least 800MHz Core, 1400MHz Memory, and 1600MHz Shader.

That is just a bit higher than the stock speeds of the GTX 560M. Whether or not the GTX 560M has more overclocking headroom is unknown of course but an overclocked GTX 460M will be as fast as a stock GTX 560M.

The benefits of the 560M are probably in heat and power consumption due to a smaller process.

 

The GTX 560M is still 40nm process like the 460M, the main differences are the clock jump and a reduction in memory bandwidth, down from 192 bit in the 460M to 128 bit though they say that the 400 series doesn't use all of the 192 so it's not supposed to be a downgrade and could very well be a cost reduction method only.

The GTX 460M and GT 555M are both GF106 family with 192 bit memory bandwidth while the GTX 560M is GF116 with the 128 bit, seems to be the biggest glaring difference at this point but I'm sure it won't run any hotter than a GTX 460M at it's stock speeds.

 

GTX 560M is 192-bit. The supposed 128-bit GTX 560M (from the MSI) turned out to be a 128-bit GDDR5 version of the GT 555M.

 

First time I'm hearing about that, everything else I'm seeing says 128-bit for the 560M, theres this too showing 128-bit in GPU-Z with clock speeds that are definitely the 560M Nvidia Geforce GTX 560M sighted - Notebookcheck.net News

Not saying it's definite but this is the first time I'm hearing anything about it not being 128-bit, it could very well just be that engineering sample or a specific OEM configuration like we've seen with the other 500 series GPU's which are capable of GDDR3 or 5 but some OEM's opt for the slower 3. Personally I thought it was odd to see it drop to 128-bit when everything has been 192.

 

Yeah, see, that was a pre-production sample.

Even Notebookcheck's GTX 560M page has 192-bit now.

But, this does not rule out the possibility, of Asus still choosing to use a 128-bit variant.

 

Clevo has just released a BIOS update for P150HM to support the GTX 560M :

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/416916-clevo-bios-thread-129.html#post7482847

 

Awesome! Guess we'll see the system configured with the 560 in a couple of weeks then...or whenever the card comes out.

Mr. Mysterious

 

no news yet?

 

I'm sure it won't be too far off, Clevo's site has listed the video driver for the GTX 560M in their downloads since they put the bios supporting it in their e-channel, I'm sure we'll see the models sporting these cards soon enough.

 

so will the 560m be able to play modern games maxed out at 1080p better than the 460m? I am talking games like bad company 2, just cause 2, assassins creed, all source games, things like that.

 

guys a friend of mine just bought the 6970m and the 180watt psu.this card works with our np8130.its confirmed!! first benchmarks 3dmark06 19385!

 

benchmarks on 560m is just slightly above 460m
560m 3DMark06 is 13919
460m 3DMark06 is 13044.2

 

No, because the 560M is essentially a 460M with slightly higher clocks.

There will be a less than 10% difference in performance.

 

oh well i think i will get the m14x. The 555m plays games at 720p better than the 460m can play games at 1080p anyway.

 

I predict the 560m will release on june 15th

 

You're aware that the 555m is quite a bit slower than the 460m, right?

555m - 5037 3DMark Vantage
460m - 6757.6 3DMark Vantage

460m - 13044 3DMark06
560m - 13919 3DMark06

The 555m is about 15% slower than the 460m, and the 560m is about 8% faster than the 460m.

The 555m is simply a lesser card than the 460m, and will not play games better at any resolution than the 460m will.

Mobile Graphics Cards - Benchmark List - Notebookcheck.net Tech

 

Vantage aside, the 460M is at least 30% faster than the 555M, in all gaming scenarios.

Also, the true Vantage GPU for the average 460M, is around 7300.

 

Oh. Maybe I will go for the asus g53sw xn1 then.

 

Earlier.

Polish shop "x-kom" expects shipping date of MSI GT780R on June 3.
gt780 - wyniki wyszukiwania - Sklep komputerowy - X-KOM.PL

As I wrote in MSI thread "x-kom" received information about GTX 560M capacity.
Vantage (dunno which) above 11000 pts.

For me it's impossible cuz GTX 550Ti has "only" 10k pts.

 

where are you guys getting gtx 560m benchmarks for 3d mark 06?

also 6970m in np8130 can it put on??

 

yes u can put it on but u need the 180watt psu.a friend of mine bought both 6970m and 180watt psu and works like charm.

 

Notebookcheck is one of the few resources that does full benchmarks and reviews on all laptop GPU's. You can find a list here:

Mobile Graphics Cards - Benchmark List - Notebookcheck.net Tech

Some are incomplete and the results vary a bit from user to user, but it's a decent guide to find out roughly how well different cards perform.

 

I'm waiting another month before I finalize whether or not I'm getting the 8130.

Do you guys think they will have 560 by default (like they have 460 by default right now) for 8130 by june end?

thanks

 

I thought it had a different heatsink?

 

I'm pretty sure it does, and I thought you had to use a different board for the AMD card when going from the 460m but I could be wrong on that part.

 

yes its has different heatsink.he bought a heatsink too.the good news is that we can use this awesome card to our np8130

 

You can really replace the PSU with 180w and get a 6970? What about 6990? I was considering doing this in 6 months or so along with buying an SSD. If the GTX 560M and 750GB 8GB SSD Hybrid drive aren't powerful enough for me.

How much does it cost to do this? $200 for the 6970 and $150 for the 180w PSU? Im guessing 300-400?

 

Sorry to shock you, but you're way off on the pricing.

6990M = $490
180W PSU for P150HM = $95 (you may find cheaper generics on eBay or its like)

Prices via RJTech

Expensive but it's still nearly doubling your power for significantly less than the price of a new machine.

 

within 6 months though hopefully that price will be 300 for the 6990m?

 

do you also need a new heatsink?

 

Also I've heard the GTX560M can be OC'd roughly 20% giving it 3dMark11 Scores very similar to that of the GTX570M, and probably at least a 10-15% bonus FPS in games.

You would want to get a laptop cooler for this OC'ing though

 

Most likely no, the prices won't drop that significantly for aftermarket purchase. If AMD supersedes the part with a 7000 series model, they'll probably just be discontinued and replaced by the new model. Yes, you will need a new heatsink if you swap cards, but if you buy the 6990m new it will come with one.

Unless you buy a used card, you'll almost always be paying 400+ for a new MXM card.

 

Do you know of any place where people trade/sell used laptop MXM cards? The Clevo 151HM supports these MXM's? I would like to be able to get a 6990m within the next year and maybe sell my GTX560m for at least $100 to cover some costs.

 

The best places to look if you don't mind used are in the NBR marketplace and eBay (I'd go with the Marketplace first though). The P151HM1 uses MXM 3.0b. Make sure you get that revision AND that the card you get is Clevo compatible. Buying used is a lot more work though, as you have to be absolutely sure what you're buying will be compatible. It carries the same warranty issues as any unapproved card as well, plus the risk of getting an ES part that has absolutely no warranty if its own.

NBR Marketplace

 

You can buy new GPUs from RJTech.