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    haswell

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by msd1994, Nov 5, 2013.

  1. msd1994

    msd1994 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I was wondering if the sager np9170 (i think this is what i have, its a 17 inch clevo very similar design to the NP9150, and the 9150 drivers work for it) is compatible with the haswell chip, most importantly the same socket type as haswell chips, and the power supply is fully compatible with it? I heard some older power supplies have problems, and i was wondering if it was the same deal wth laptop power supplies. Does anyone know if replacing the current one with a haswell chip is possible? if the only problem is the difficulty of taking apart a laptop that isn't a problem.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    Haswell and Ivy Bridge have different sockets so they are not compatible with each other.
     
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    okay, thanks.
     
  4. Meaker@Sager

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    You are not really missing anything much, there are likely upgrade options you could go for depending on your current chip.
     
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    There a few nice advantages, but it's true that it's not a prominent upgrade (let alone a feasible one with the different socket and chipset). Though not doable, you may be eligible for an upgrade to your existing Ivy Bridge CPU with a better Ivy Bridge CPU. :)

    And about the power supply units: the Haswell compatibility issue has been more of a problem with desktop/ATX power supply units, not laptop AC adapters. The desktop counterparts struggle with the low power states of Haswell.

    the-big-haswell-psu-compatibility-list
     
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    Yes, though the same rules apply to the desktop motherboard, 6 series chipsets can't take haswell on desktop or mobile.
     
  7. b0b1man

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    Haswell is a big disappointment.

    Back when we had the first generation Core i-series, it was all 32nm process. Then 2-nd gen Sandy Bridge brought even more power, on the same 32nm size.
    And after that came Ivy Bridge on 22nm, I was hoping on a 30% improvement in clock speeds and all I got is some "new" integrated GPU inside, which isnt that much powerful than the last one.

    Then we got 4-th generation Haswell, on the same 22nm platform. I thought "damn, Ivy was a fail, hopefully now they have improved stuff".
    NOPE. We got THE SAME clock speeds as in Ivy Bridge. Absolutely disappointing. Just awful.

    Next year, Im not crossing my fingers. That 14nm Broadwell, I bet its gonna suck again, cause of "better integrated graphics".

    Well, thats enough ranting for now. I'll be back when its time for some more :D
     
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    Haswell was geared more towards improving mobilty. It does provide better battery life and the increase in the integrated graphics performance is geared toward non "hardcore" gamers still being able to play games well on lower settings without the need for a dedicated GPU. They did good with what they planned on but most people here want more power/performance which Haswell was not.
     
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    Also, Haswell is Intel's tock, so the manufacturing process remains the same with the new architecture. It handles memory better than Ivy Bridge and is a more efficient microarchitecture when you dissect it, really - even if it doesn't offer a big performance increase over IB.

    Now they just need to fix that chipset stepping. :eek: