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    help my wow FPS, or lack there of

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by kramcomposer, Mar 25, 2009.

  1. kramcomposer

    kramcomposer Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello, I have been trying to figure out for the past 2 months why my wow FPS is so crappy.

    I get like 24 fps. in the start up areas.

    I have the 9800m GTX w/ 1 gig of ram

    I browsed these forms and Ive noticed it stays in 2d Clock while I play wow ( at list I think it does)

    All my other games work perfect, except for wow.

    I am currently using the NVIDIA laptop 179.48 with a modded inf downloaded from laptops2go.

    I tried disabling powermizer, and using nTune but it doesn't seem to help, or I could simply be doing it wrong.

    Anyways, any ideas would be helpful because Me and my Girl love playing wow together.
     
  2. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    have you tried updated drivers?
     
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    kramcomposer Notebook Enthusiast

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    ill try the 185.20 right now
     
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    kramcomposer Notebook Enthusiast

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    Same Issue present it laggy at about the same
     
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    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    I recommend to run the game in single-thread mode.

    start the game

    run the Task Manager (either by CTRL+ALT+DEL or Start>Run>taskmgr)

    then go to Processes tab.

    look for the WoW executable, then right-click on it and choose "Set Affinity"

    then choose/check only of the CPU cores (CPU 0, CPU 1, etc...).
     
  6. ARGH

    ARGH Notebook Deity

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    no point in getting modified drivers now that nvidia has started providing mobile drivers. what start up areas? expansion zones or in the classic zones?

    try this, disable "reduce input lag" option as that eats up fps quite a bit. run in full screen mode and keep vsync off.
     
  7. kramcomposer

    kramcomposer Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am now getting 10fps with the newer drivers, and cpu set to 0 or 1

    I can't use the nvidia drivers without modifing because I got one of the lucky 9800m gtxs that says its not made for it.

    I am starting in the classic zones, and right now I'm at the base of ramp leading up into iron forge

    And I know this card could do better because my 6800gt gets about 40 with everything maxed.

    reduce input lag is off, and Vsync is off, but with vSync on It get the same FPS.
     
  8. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    so its not the CPU affinity.

    I recommend to monitor the system info while you are in-game:
    - GPU core clock
    - GPU memory clock
    - GPU usage
    - CPU usage

    read here to do that:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=81852

    and post your results since something is holding your GPU performance back.

    also, have you tried other games or benchmarks (like 3DMark).... has it done the same thing?
     
  9. ARGH

    ARGH Notebook Deity

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    try using drivers off sager's website or use the ones that the laptop came with and see how that works. your problem sounds strange. i am sure it is software related, probably incorrect settings or some user-error. make sure the nvidia profiles are set to default for global and for the game itself.
     
  10. kramcomposer

    kramcomposer Notebook Enthusiast

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    Seemed more and more software related.
    And I think I got it working.
    by :
    Uninstalled all things Nvidia
    Restarted in safe mode
    Used Driver Sweeper
    Disabled all Nvidia stuff in msconfig
    Disabled Windows Error Log Report & Windows Error Collector
    restarted computer
    installed 180.20

    and now I get 60-75 fps in front of iron forge with vsync off
    thanks
     
  11. Heathkidd

    Heathkidd M860TU

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    its prob a weak CPU.. wow is a CPu heavy game (possibly the most CPU intenstive game if u ask me )..

    what kind of ui mods are you running.
    Are your shadows set to max? Wow uses CPU to generate its new shadow sistem not GPU.. u should set shadows to 1-2 but nuthing higher.

    i play wow on a 9800mGT 2.4gig duel and get like 50-60 fps...

    try and use less ui mods.. MOST wow mods are horibly made by amature collage computer science students and distroy your FPS
     
  12. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Erm heath, no offence, wow doesnt even come close to being intence on hardware, try Crysis.

    Wow runs smoothly on my Samsung r700 with nvidia 8600M GT, 3GB Ram and 2ghz cpu at max settings it packs 30 fps traveling and slips down to 20 or so in start up locations, even org runs smoothly.

    Then again 8600 gt gpu is pretty powerfull concidering its slowly becoming the bottom end of high end gpus.

    Thats really strange if wow is giving frames like that though KRAM, make sure its in full screen mode, at native res (sometimes lower res can make it unstable) and try bilinear and tripple buffer to reduce the lag input of them.
     
  13. kramcomposer

    kramcomposer Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have a Dual Core 2 @ 2.53 w/ 1066 bus on it w/ 4 gig ram @ 1066 bus.
    I had less probs with crysis on high settings (comp couldn't do max realisticaly) than wow on max.

    Ill try the shadow thing though.
    oh, and the programs were:
    Windows Event Log
    Windows Error Collector
    Windows Error Reporting Service
     
  14. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Well you must have been one to waste money on that pile of dog since you know SOOO much about it :)

    Its one of the best "poorly optimized,boring game play and horrible storyline games out" of you want to stress your pc, then its the stressiest game out.

    It doesn't matter about the quality of the game either, i would just go out and buy it just to see if it runs, yep that pile of dog sure is good ;)

    Unless you have a bad experience of course.

    Kram, your specs seem very nice, im guessing t or p series duo core processor,

    Do you have alot of apps running wilst you play?

    I just cant see any reason your pc should be lagging.
     
  15. XanKage

    XanKage Notebook Geek

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    Just wondering, even though you're stating you got a 98000M GTX GPU, you wouldn't have two and be running in SLi by any chance?
    WoW does NOT work with SLi and will lag horribly if you got it activated.

    If I play WoW, I get around 30 better FPS when I disable my second card. Although this can be altered a little by doing some modifying with nHancer, SLi is still not supported by WoW and your FPS will suffer from having two GPUs.

    EDIT: Just realised that you had already fixed the problem, nevermind.
     
  16. Travesty

    Travesty Notebook Guru

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    I disagree with Xankage. Although WoW doesn't officially support SLI, SLI does indeed work in WoW and *many* of us WoW players use SLI.

    In the nVidia control panel, go to programs and add WoW and force AFR1 or 2, which ever works best for you. Most players find AFR1 works best.

    Using the default settings in the nVidia control panel means you're probably only using a single GPU since the default setting of WoW is not to officially support SLI.

    I have an D901C with a quad core and 2x8800m GTX in SLI and get 150+ frames in many areas.

    That aside, lets get back to the frame rate issue. It sounds like you have it licked. Be advised that you will never get great frame rates in high population ares in WoW, such as in Dalaran, no matter how much graphic horsepower you have. That's because the WoW engine is very CPU intensive, as previous posters have mentioned. All the locations of players, chat bubbles, trade and general chat, emotes, other character actions, NPC locations and actions, etc etc., all have to be calculated by the CPU before they are sent to be rendered. The more players that are present in one area, such as Dalaran during peak hours, the more workout the CPU gets. I'd recomend getting the fastest dual core possible for the best frames in WoW.

    I think the WoW code can only use 2 cores anyway so a quad core won't help unless you are running other programs in the background, and the additional cores can be put to use there. Additionally, the dual cores run a bit faster than their quad brothers.

    Don't expect WoW to update their engine to use more GPU and less CPU anytime soon. The financial wizards at Blizzard plan to keep the GPU requirements as low as possible so its subscriber base can be a large as possible.
     
  17. Gophn

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    it was a driver issue.

    so this thread is resolved.