how mcuh difference is threr between the 8800gtx and the Quadro FX1600 512MB?

would like to now for when buying my new notebook?

 

A lot actually.

Quadro 1600M ~ Geforce 8700M GT
Quadro 3600M ~ Geforce 8800M GTX

Clevo (and their distributors) will soon have the 3600M available for their M570RU/TU and D900C.

 

what he said...the 8800m GTX is atleast twice as powerful, more like two and a half times.

 

2.5 for gaming that is, but i don't think there is really a big of a difference between these:
Quadro 1600M = Geforce 8700M GT,

Quadro 3600M = Geforce 8800M GTX,

because they are essentially the same card.

 

Yes, there is no difference between the 1600M and the 8700M GT, same for 3600M, but a 3600M is way more powerful than a 1600M, I'd say double.

 

The main difference between the quadros and the cards they were based on as mentioned above is Drivers. The quadros will not give good gaming perfomance because they are tweeked to use Open GL. If the program you are using does not use Open GL then the performance will slow. If you are using AutoCad or a program using Open GL then thats where they will shine!

All that being said, non Quadro cards will run Autocad but just not a swell as the quadro line would.

Hope this helps!

 

Why Clevo didn´t support Quadro 2500M/3500M?

 

The 2500M and the 3500M are older non Direct X 10 cards. The new versions are the 1600M and the 3600M.

 

you could get 2500m in the clevo d901c

dual cards.

 

In general, the GeForce cards (like the 8800 series) are designed for gaming, while the Quadro cards are designed for CAD.

 

but they have the exact same core.

I used a fx2500 and a fx3500 in my m1710 and flashed a 7900gtx bios to it. and 7950 bios and they preformed the same. still with lv2g drivers same preformance and 3dmarks.

 

I know, but when i flash my 7950 to fx2500M, the M570RU will boot with errors, black screen.....

 

lol,that's because you need to flash 7900 gtx to fx2500m and 7950 to fx3500m

 

The problem is i cannot find a 3500M BIOS......

 

correct.

For high-end Nvidia comparisons:

Quadro ~ Geforce
1500M ~ 7800 Go GTX
2500M ~ 7900 Go GTX
3500M ~ 7950 Go GTX
1600M ~ 8700M GT
3600M ~ 8800M GTX

 

1500m =7900gs

 

I believe, its 7800GTX ~ 1500M... since those were my choices when I built my notebook back in March 2006.

7900 Go cards were not available until June/July 2006.

 

trust me 7900gs =1500m's because we flash the bios of a 1500m with a 7900gtx or 7900gs and unlock pipes.

it wouldn't flash if it wasn't the same core.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Quadro-FX-1500M.2134.0.html

from notebookcheck

 

interesting... but too old to matter... I wish I had a newer card.... preferably a 8800M GTX

 

Like everybody said. Not comparable GFX cards. Ones for gaming other is for Open GL

 

I can get a Quadro FX3600M at very cheap price, but it is for Dell, not suitable for Clevo..........

 

you didn't hear. they are 100% the same cores. and with lv2g drivers they compare 100% in synthetic benches/gaming.

 

that's for the new m6300?

 

the Quadro 3600M will be available for Clevo notebooks soon as well.

 

will it cost more than an 8800?

 

Of course.....

 

Around 1500$ for a single card...

 

why that? if the cards are only software optimized? is it to lure professionals? lol

 

The Quadro series being workstation class has always been priced higher than the geforce series!

 

It's not only software optimized. Their hardware should work differently.

 

I have personally used fx 1500m fx2500m and fx2500m in my m1710 extensively.

and The Gaming/Benchmars are Identical as their other g71 counterparts. as well as when oc'd they are identical as well.

that's with the lv2g drivers.

if I do a romstrap mod or flash a fx2500 with a 7900 gtx. it's the same as well.

they have the exact same CORE. yes there is some differences but if your not using quadro drivers you won't notice any diff.

 

Like Goyphn, I haven't looked into in ages.. 2006. But the quadro cards back then were very comparable to their GT bretheren. They actually would out game it if you maxed out AA and ran top resolutions.

But, considering the cost difference, they just aren't worth it. Also keep in mind that Autodesk is slowly but surely converting over toward the DirectX standard instead of OpenGL. Add to this that Vista doesn't directly support OpenGL and translates it creating a bottleneck (at least that's what I knew back then). I'd pass unless there is some specific need.. My 7950 GTX is overkill for AutoCad if that's what the intended use is.

There's a review of a KN Assassin (that clevo with the AMD cpu and sli). They've got benches of it using sli 2500M gpu's. A bit dated, but you could compare it to 7900 GT scores of the time and see that you don't give up much at all if you are also worried about gaming.....
http://www.techwarelabs.com/reviews/notebooks/kn_assassin/index.shtml

 

I thought that the FX series was much more limiting when it came to gaming. Maybe I am incorrect?

 

they are 100% the same.

read about it.

there is 100% of pages of info around about them.

 

One hundred percent of pages

 

100's of pages.

type it in google.

from notebookcheck :

NVIDIA Quadro FX 2500M

This is a professional video card for notebooks from NVidia It is based on 7900GTX.

The application performance is very good due to special professional drivers (3D rendering, CAD), but the gaming performance is weaker. With modded drivers, it will work like a 7900GTX.

if you add the modified INF drivers it preforms just like a 7900gtx

In fact I have put down many benchmarks about this

 

So that means Quadro FX 2500M = 7900 GTX with modded inf?
Than that makes it a versatile GPU, no?

 

lol that wasnt my question XD i asked why

 

very, in fact when overclocked I was able to get better 3dmarks than the 7950 with my oc'd fx2500.

also it has OPENGL optomizations so when using a game Like say Doom3, it's actually better than it's counterparts.

 

Probably not. It will perform the same. I don't think it's optimized for games, rather than applications.

 

For the OP, the difference is Huge, like say from Anjelina Jolie to Madonna.

 

anything Opengl. because it's optomized for OPENGL. that means anything that renderes OPENGL. and CAD is just like viewing a 3d rendered game.

while using CAD in OPENGL its rendering...

and using games... rendering.

believe it or not there have been tests that prove this.

i know a hell of alot about those fx-m cards.

I have had nearly all of them and tinkered more than anyone i've ever met.

 

I would like to see those tests. Anyway, I see no point in buying a Quadro card to play games on, unless you need it for something else too.

 

lookem up, i did. I spent hundreds of hours reading about the cards. the info is out there. mostly on notebookforums and nvision and the nibitor forums.

with e1705s the m1710s the quadro's cost way way cheaper on ebay compared to the gtx's

that's the only reason I got them.

200 bux for a fx2500 and 300 bux for a fx3500 and 120 for a 1500m

I had the chance to have them all.

thanks to all the "MIS" info on the quadros being not good for gaming. makes the price soo low.

but thats completely wrong.

but I agree totally that I would never "buy" a quadro for gaming if they were Full Price.

 

Unless you`re a company, that is.
The quadros are usually TWICE as expensive as the card they`re based on. If you`re all about figures, and want bragging rights,hell, the quadros are better than.But unless YOU ACTUALLY NEED them for OpenGL based applications or run Autocad for example,ACAD,etc you just payed twice for the same ****ty card...

 

I just said I got them because they were Cheaper. In the Dell world the quadros are the cheapest cards around.

 

D'hell world, I see.
So how much did you get for selling your soul again?

Well, a rule is usually formed with an exception! (ie. the rule is so general,that only 1 exception can occur)

 

I am done speaking on this topic of insanity.

 

Oh come on, the fun is just starting