i7-4810mq clock speed question

So just finished Witcher 2 on my new sager np 8268-s and was overall pleased. Max settings except uber sampling on with v sync stayed at 60 fps like a champ. Gtx 970m and i7:4810 held awesome temps. Gpu peaked at 70 degrees with an average of 60-65 and cpu hovered at 60. New to laptops and pc gaming but was always told laptop temps were impossible to keep down but this thing with the two fan setup is doing awesome I think.

Started arma 3 now. Still tinkering with settings to find that perfect visual/fps. Haven't got into multiplayer yet as I'm in a remote location with horrible Internet working for a few more days still.


The general consensus is that this game is bottlenecked by the cpu. It only uses 2 cores. So my question is, when my specs say " i7 4810mq, 2.8-3.8 GHz" does that mean it'll ramp itself up to 3.8 GHz or Id have to over clock it?

New to this pc stuff. I'm not a complete noob. I can follow tutorials and videos to do what I have to do but is over clocking hard? Any warranty issues? Is it worth it? Seems like when I do computer stuff it requires me googling how to revert lol.

For instance, first pc when to update drivers for a simple Amd 5450. Well I didn't remove the old drivers first which I didn't know which took me hours to revert as it basically stopped the graphics card and I was googling with a ridiculous resolution. The letters were about 1" tall.

Or I tried to first move my videos and pictures files off my 128g ssd to the larger hard drive. Well when I went to properties and selected a path it showed D:/ and assumed it would create its own file in D:/ and hit okay. Well it then turned my videos files into a D:/ shortcut. When I would right click videos the properties were the same as when you right click a hard drive properties.

This seems to be my general issue with computers. Overlooking something lol. Trying to learn. I enjoy it. I know arma 3 mod world is going to drive me nuts once I get an Internet connection. Looks awesome but seems like a lot of issues arise as well.

 

Up to 3.8 means that your CPU will automatically load 2 cores up to 3.7GHz or 3-4 cores up to 3.6GHz.
You can use Throttlestop to overclock +300Mhz if I recall correct.

About folders. Holding right click move folder to a drive D and in opened context menu select MOVE.

 

+400 mhz possible with 48xx cpus u can use intel xtu for that

 

As stated already, it means that the overclock is automatic (per Intel's Turboboost feature). It won't hit 3.8 GHz across all cores, but the overclock should occur when an application needs it to.

Not hard, no. But if you feel like you're on shaky ground with it, you may want to do some research and ask around here before you dip into trying it. Your CPU should be able to handle ARMA just fine without any manual OCing on your part. Whether it affects your warranty or not is subjective to the seller (it's generally not promoted by resellers, though, for whatever that's worth to you).

Glad to see the laptop is treating you well!

 

Thanks for the answers.

 

On a side note: Arma 3 will never run well. The game's engine is the equivalent of a dog on a unicycle attempting to juggle, and your PC's power is the gears of the unicycle. It's never going to use it properly, no matter how good a unicycle you get.

I remember being unable to crack 45fps on that game, SLI or not. If I turned down settings, the only thing that happened was my GPU's utilization went down.

 

i did this with someones help
** at first i had the first two cores at 42 & 41 but was unstable.
got 3 restarts and one with blue screen.

Overclocked CPU i7-4810mqCPU +400mhz 4.0ghz

 

Congratz; glad you got your machine to 4GHz on stock

 

still getting pretty hot, had a restart after 15min of bf4 gameplay.
was getting 90s high 80s in high action and 100s in reg play, crazy ahah.

gonna need to get temps lower too, gonna still play around wit it
open to more tips

 

try and prop up the back of your machine with plastic bottle caps or similar, for example. that greatly improves airflow and should reduce temps.

you can also try and lower your voltage settings a bit, see if the cpu is still stable then at 4ghz but running a bit cooler.

 

Yes, propping up the back of the machine as well as using max fans is great. Also, I suggest either IC Diamond, Arctic Silver Céramiqué 2, or Gelid GC Extreme for Thermal Paste on the CPU. MX-2 and MX-4 are things I won't recommend (I'm not sure if you're using them or not) for these CPUs.

 

propped it up, already have diamond paste, i ordered a 6 fan cooling pad from eBay.

I will be adjusting the: core voltage (set to default), in small increments.
If my votlage is set to adaptive then it might be automatically increasing it when ti goes to a higher speed i assume? ill test it out!


this is the other list of voltages and there values.

dynamic cpu voltage (set to 0)
processor input voltage (set to default)
processor digital IO Voltage offset (set to 0)
processor analog IO voltage offset (set to 0)

 

try the dynamic cpu voltage first. the rest is, if im not mistaken, mainly concerned with the CPU´s input / output section which shouldnt concern us for the moment. dont take my word for it though, best to play around with the values a bit and see if they have an impact

 

Propped it up by how much? I would suggest about a solid 1/2 inch at minimum. And propping up the front a little bit won't hurt either. And max fans are important (Fn + 1)

 

for continuing the follow of my oc or laptop build please follow:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...q-2-8ghz-using-intel-extreme-tuning-help.html

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/764667-just-purchased-my-clevo-p150sm.html

FINALLY GOT IT STABLE without any crash
passed stress test of 5-10ish min ( i know you should do at least 25min+) and also 10-15min of bf4!

now i just gotta fine tweak this shiet



moving it slowly, keeps on getting better



UPDATE!!!

Here's my stable oc at 4.0GHz with a score of 757. Made the top 10 for our processors!
next step 4.2GHz



template i made

 

I got a 4810 and the clock speed drops to 3.2ghz in the xtu stress test. Is this because the cpu doesn't get enough juice? It doesn't thermal throttle, although runs bit hot and i have to repaste. It gets to 85c stock with max fans and propped up.

 

If stress testing, it's lack of juice somewhere. If benchmarking, it's definitely lack of voltage or something, as it happens to me. But I don't throttle in the stress test. My XTU page looks like this:

Spoiler

 

Thanks for the help! I'll repaste and see if the temps drop and then feed the chip some more juice

 

change TDP in intel XTU

 

Arctic Céramique 2, IC Diamond and Gelid GC Extreme (untested by me) are among the best without going liquid metal. MX-2 and MX-4 are crap in comparison.

 

Since the i7-4810 seems to overlock pretty well, is there any reason to go for the i7-4910 if you play more cpu intensive games? I thought I remembered reading that due to thermals the 4810 was not much different than the 4910. Would be looking to probably get the NP8258 if that helps when consdeiring the cooling chasis.

 

4810MQ = 3.6GHz 4-core boost at stock, 4GHz 4-core boost max OC. 6MB L3 cache.
4910MQ = 3.7GHz 4-core boost at stock, 4.3GHz 4-core boost max OC. 8MB L3 cache.

If the cache and OCing past 4GHz are important to you, the 4910MQ is your way to go, end of story.

 

Thanks D2 Ultima. I have not been able to find a lot of information on the cooling system in the np8258 (compared to the NP8268 which seems a little more popular) but would that unit be able to handle the 4910MQ with adequate temps?

 

The cooling is pretty much the same. http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/One/K56-3N2/boden4.jpg

That being said, you'd likely need to make sure it's copper and use some Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra on the heatsink. It's what I'm using on mine and the difference is amazing, even with my relatively sub-par CPU cooling.

If you want, look around and see if the P177SM-A heatsink fits http://i.imgur.com/v3dYuI1.jpg as the copper leads into more copper for the fins, instead of into aluminum fins, which means the P177SM-A heatsink should have improved cooling. This is my speculation however; I've no idea if it'll actually fit. I just looked at them out of curiosity and figured they're similar in size. You could always get a P177SM-A heatsink from somewhere to check if you bought a P157SM-A.

 

Thanks for the information. I was contemplating the P177SM-A as well, so perhaps I should just go that route. I currently have an Alienware 17, so I am used to lugging around some weight in exchange for better power/cooling.

 

Ok.. i thought i had a bad heatsink because of the high temps. I repasted with gc extreme and my temps dropped to 65c from 85c stock! I upped the limits according to d2 ultimas settings and ran stress test again. Frequency stayed at 3.6ghz and temps at high 60c. Then upped cores to x39 run bench with xtu and got score of 790. But temps were at 85c again. I think ill settle for x38 with all cores since i run stock bios. Maybe later ill flash prema and try to tweak more

 

Nice drop in temperature! Some good things have been said about the GC Extreme compound. Thanks for the feedback!

 

I've used it before but this was phenomenal. Couldn't believe my eyes seems to work great with low pressure heatsinks too.

 

got a tube of that wonder-TIM at home waiting for my new rig to arrive patiently waiting...

 

wonder-TIM he says. Liquid metal it is.

 

Yes yes yes love it...

 

huh? GC extreme aint liquid metal... CLU is!

GCE is just the best available non-metal paste atm

 

But once you go liquid metal... you don't go back. Unless you get an aluminum heatsink.

 

tru dat brah

 

@wikileaker I have the same problem as you had. Which method did you use to apply the GC Extreme?

 

For regular pastes you should always let the heatsink spread the paste, exact shape depends on the core shape.

 

That's basically true. Despite the low mounting pressure in laptops, this method tends to produce the fewest air bubbles/pockets.

 

Sorry I didn't get the notification someone tagged me
I let the heatsink do the work. Has worked for me always.