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    need real pro help !

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Alfonz, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. Alfonz

    Alfonz Notebook Consultant

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    Dear All,

    I have a real problem with my laptop, and so far I'm not getting anywhere. Need real help!!! I will say the long version of the story hopefully anyone can help.

    I got a Sager 9262 with 2 x 9800m GTX in slim got it when it was state of the art. About 6- 8 month ago, I started getting crashes, blue screen of death , and the display giving vertical , annoying bunch of vertical lines. Asked sager for help, nothing. asked xotic pc for help, and they suggested swapping the card. That worked, but now I disabled one 9800m GTX, and worked with the other.

    Every other month, the screen wont light up and I open it up and swap the cards,, it works.

    Last week this happened, and I couldnt get anything. Then after swapping a few time, I got a display, but it also show vertical lines, and in device manger I cant load the drivers, to any of the cards.

    The thing is, I still get a display , but it is distorted.

    At this point I dont want to get my 9800m GTX power back, I was wondering if I can use any thing do have a normal display just to watch movies and browse, like the intel chipset or downgrading the 9800 m gtx just to give a display.

    I got some hope because I am get some sort of display as per the pic attached, and I know I cant buy 9800m GTX because it is not manufactured anymore, and if it is used it will cost as much as a new laptop.
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  2. Tmets

    Tmets De-evolving to Amoeba

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    Have you tried Who crashed yet? You may have the Nvidia burnout problem which happened with that generation. I had similar symptoms myself.
     
  3. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    yup same here,burned through a 8600m gt and almost the same with a 9600m gt (altho i managed to sell the laptop before it totally gave out on me lol :p).
    u can either keep an eye on ebay or on the nbr market to see if there are cheap deals available for a 9800m :)

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  4. b0b1man

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    Someone should make a "Nvidia Crap Dump Depot" that picks up and recycles their older cards from 8000-9000 series. Should make for a good business.
     
  5. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    You video cards have died out. It is unclear if both of them are severely affected, or just one.

    You are from US, so there is no chance for you to fix your card there.

    Thus, this is what you have to do:
    You must take out the slave card and only leave the master card inside.
    If laptop doesn't work with your master card, you need to go and bake it.
    Search baking of video cards on the forum, there are guides for it.
    After you baked your master video card, the card will work again, even games.
    Afterwards you need to put in the slave card back into your system. If the system doesn't boot with your slave card, then it means this one is also affected.
    What you need to do, in order to get the max out of your notebook, is to flash your slave card with a master bios and than put it somewhere save.

    Your master card will work for a while (a few months), after which it will start giving the same symptoms again. You will have to bake it again. You can bake a card 3-4 times before complete failure. Once your master card has failed completely, you will start using your other card, which again will have to be baked every few months (when it stops working).

    Under such circumstances, you will be able to get another year from your laptop.

    Alternatively, there are some guys in Greece who can fix your video cards, but it will cost you a few hundred dollars, especially because of the shipping fees.
     
  6. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    greece? fix video cards? seriously? lol nice, us greeks are really creative when it comes to making a quick buck :p
     
  7. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    It's actually not that hard to fix video cards with the proper equipment. There are a few people on this forum who got their cards fixed by them. So they seem pretty legit.
     
  8. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    haha, wasnt trying to question their legitimacy, just thought it was funny that theyre based in greece :)
     
  9. Alfonz

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    Thanks for your advise, Im giving a plus one.
    The good news, i took the slave which was not working at all, the primary was giving vertical lines, put it on a heater for 10 mins, then installed in place of the primary. thinking that the card is fried anyways!!
    For my astonishment, it ACTUALLY worked and the device is working as previous.After a week of thinking it was over, now I have hope, so thanks allot for this.


    Bad news. got very excited took the other card put it on , and then smelt burning smell. opened the foil and found that some ICs and the capiceters were dislocated, the soldering on them melted, guess it was too hot. I dont think i can put it togther again :( no way, i am afraid i might cause a short or burn my mother board.

    Now i am worried should i just scrap the surface and operate the computer for surfing and salvging the info, or can i fire up games?

    I dont know , maybe i should buy a new laptop, sad because i paid sooo much for the sager that was great except for the 9800 m GTX issues :mad:
     
  10. erikk

    erikk Notebook Consultant

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    Holy crap I thought this was a joke until I googled. Baking video cards, unreal. There are some crazy ppl out there; can you imagine the first guy that did this? Or even better the first non-techie guy that believed the first guy and did it?
     
  11. b0b1man

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    Definetely buy a new laptop. This one is old as hell. And it aint working right anymore.

    How long have you owned it? I generally change my computer every year (and sell the old one for 60% of the price), every time in perfect condition.
     
  12. Blacky

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    You can fire up games as well. However, if you refrain from gaming, your card will last longer under the given circumstances.

    The other card, if it's just some loose capacitors, can be fixed at any service that can solder and de-solder electronics. For instance any TV repair shop, or computer repair shop should be able to fix it. Just tell them to resolder the components that are loose.

    Should you consider a new laptop?
    Yes, you should, but now you have at least a few months to look for it. If you fix the other card as well, I think you have a full year until your current laptop will become un-usable.


    If you think about, it's not that crazy at all. Because most of the time, there is nothing wrong with the components of the card, it's the way they are soldered that degrades over time. A permanent fix would be a complete re-flow of the card, but few companies are able to do that.
     
  13. Alfonz

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  14. jaybee83

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    u could just go ahead and buy a new machine right now with win7 and switch to win8 for 15 bucks down the line thru microsofts upgrade program :)
    besides,there wont be any new nextgen hardware out until next spring (aside from slight ivy clock bumps), thus either now or next year would be the time to get a new beast ;)

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  15. Tmets

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    The next dual gpu clevo should be out later this year if you want something similar to your current machine.